PlayStation 3 debate "Round 2"

[Sirgin]

I won't be getting it.

Because you don't have a PS3 or because you're not interested in the game itself?

[phoenix1967]

I won't be getting it.

Because you don't have a PS3 or because you're not interested in the game itself?

Both. I've committed to not getting a PS3 until it's under $200 (maybe even $150). And of the exclusives to the PS3, I'm just not interested in the Resistance IP. Little Big Planet and Unchartered look really good, though. And I'm sure God of War 3 will be awesome.

[phoenix1967]

Um...you do realize you probably spent as much as a PS3 on your 360, right?

I got the 360 because I preferred its lineup of games, what it offers online for both marketplace & online play, and its nearly full backward compatibility. It's also the system I prefer to play with friends.

[Tan]

....and its nearly full backward compatibility.

A joke right? Little more than a third of the Xbox library of games being supported is hardly "full" by any stretch. I trimmed my Xbox collection from 150+ down to less than 70 and still only half of them are supported.

[phoenix1967]

....and its nearly full backward compatibility.

A joke right? Little more than a third of the Xbox library of games being supported is hardly "full" by any stretch. I trimmed my Xbox collection from 150+ down to less than 70 and still only half of them are supported.

I didn't know that...the list seemed impressive to me with regards to what was offered as BC overall though. The only game I really miss not having available as BC is Def Jam: FFNY.

[Tan]

....and its nearly full backward compatibility.

A joke right? Little more than a third of the Xbox library of games being supported is hardly "full" by any stretch. I trimmed my Xbox collection from 150+ down to less than 70 and still only half of them are supported.

I didn't know that...the list seemed impressive to me with regards to what was offered as BC overall though. The only game I really miss not having available as BC is Def Jam: FFNY.

Sorry I was mistaken, somewhere between a third and less than half. I forgot about the groups of repetitive sports titles that clutter the list. It's not an all-bad list, but if you were to make a top 25 or top 50 all-time Xbox list, you'd be surprised at how many of the Xbox's greatest games aren't supported nor will ever be.

Here's my personal list I blogged about a long time ago:

Advent Rising
Arx Fatalis
Beyond Good & Evil
Blood Wake
Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay, The
Conflict: Global Terror
Dead Man’s Hand
Deus Ex: Invisible War
Hitman 2: Silent Assassin
MechAssault
Oddworld: Stranger’s Wrath
Painkiller: Hell Wars
Pirates of the Caribbean
RalliSport Challenge 2
Samurai Shodown V
Secret Weapons Over Normandy
Spartan: Total Warrior
Star Trek Shattered Universe
Star Wars: Obi-Wan
TransWorld Snowboarding
Tron 2.0: Killer App
Yager

 

[The Metamorphosing Leon]

Um...you do realize you probably spent as much as a PS3 on your 360, right?

phoenix has been anti-Sony for awhile. I daresay I miss the days before this gen when we argued for hours about the consoles and I was known as the Maligned Sony-Fan Leon or something like that.

[phoenix1967]

^I'm not "anti-Sony". I still have a PS2 and a bunch of games for it. I just resent the fact that they decided to force-feed Blu-Ray technology into the price of the PS3. I can't/won't utilize the technology, so I refuse to pay for it. That's why I've set an "Under $200" price point before I'd consider buying a PS3. It may mean I'm a cheapass, but oh well.

[Sirgin]

Here's my personal list I blogged about a long time ago:

...

There's some really good games in that list. Quite a shame that they won't be supported.

What is it with now-gen consoles and their backwards compatibility anyway? Has it become too difficult to make these machinese fully (or like...95%) backwards compatible? The PS3 suffers from the same thing. Those in stores right now aren't even backwards compatible at all.

As far as I can tell the PS2 didn't had so much trouble playing PSone games.

[Wolfman Walt]

I just resent the fact that they decided to force-feed Blu-Ray technology into the price of the PS3.

Kinda like how the PS2 force-fed DVD technology into the price? And what do you mean you can't utilize it?

now-gen consoles and their backwards compatibility anyway

Price. People complain that they want cheaper consoles, but they want all the stuff that's still in them. Something has to give.

Those in stores right now aren't even backwards compatible at all.

They play PS1 games just fine.

[phoenix1967]

I just resent the fact that they decided to force-feed Blu-Ray technology into the price of the PS3.

Kinda like how the PS2 force-fed DVD technology into the price? And what do you mean you can't utilize it?

DVD was a standardized format at the time. A DVD is a DVD and is not a proprietary technology. The Blu-Ray format is Sony-proprietary...they didn't have to go Blu-Ray this gen, but they decided to do so to push the format to the consumer. So if you wanted a PS3, you're paying a premium for it when compared to DVD technology.

I also have no interest in Blu-Ray because the quality differences to upscaled DVDs are only  noticed at 1080p and I don't have a 1080p TV.  I'm happy with my current DVD player and have no interest in buying movies on Blu-Ray. Hence, I would not use the technology. Sure it can play regular DVDs, but I already have a 3 DVD players for that (1 regular DVD player, and the players in my PS2 and 360)...I don't need a 4th.

And again, I'm not interested enough in the PS3 library to plunk down the money for the console until it drops below $200 (and maybe even $150) for it to be worth it, imo.

[The Metamorphosing Leon]

I just resent the fact that they decided to force-feed Blu-Ray technology into the price of the PS3.

Kinda like how the PS2 force-fed DVD technology into the price? And what do you mean you can't utilize it?

DVD was a standardized format at the time. A DVD is a DVD and is not a proprietary technology. The Blu-Ray format is Sony-proprietary...they didn't have to go Blu-Ray this gen, but they decided to do so to push the format to the consumer. So if you wanted a PS3, you're paying a premium for it when compared to DVD technology.

I also have no interest in Blu-Ray because the quality differences to upscaled DVDs are only  noticed at 1080p and I don't have a 1080p TV.  I'm happy with my current DVD player and have no interest in buying movies on Blu-Ray. Hence, I would not use the technology. Sure it can play regular DVDs, but I already have a 3 DVD players for that (1 regular DVD player, and the players in my PS2 and 360)...I don't need a 4th.

And again, I'm not interested enough in the PS3 library to plunk down the money for the console until it drops below $200 (and maybe even $150) for it to be worth it, imo.

Stop making these silly arguments and embrace your fanboyism. No reason to deny your love for M$. EMBRACE IT!

[Sirgin]

They play PS1 games just fine.

So the PS3's in stores now play PS1 games but not PS2 games? Lol, what's the logic in that?

Maybe fun for us "old schoolers" but younger gamers couldn't care less about PS1 games.

[Tan]

They play PS1 games just fine.

So the PS3's in stores now play PS1 games but not PS2 games? Lol, what's the logic in that?

Maybe fun for us "old schoolers" but younger gamers couldn't care less about PS1 games.

Because PS1 emulation has been around for so long now that every PC, low-end or not, and every console, has more power and resources necessary to be able to run them. So throwing in a small app onto the partitioned space of the PS3 HDD is no biggy and adds an extra feature for bragging rights.

PS2 emulation by contrast has many more flaws, much like that of the Xbox to Xbox 360 emulation. A matter of priority and overall quality that they don't include it anymore. I also suspect it helps sales of PS2s when you can't just buy an "all in one" system that will do everything.

[Sirgin]

^ I see. Thanks.