Price Check Thread

[wildbil52]

Bonk 3 is a good one. Depending on the condition you could get anywhere from $75-$100+ for it
Bomberman 93 is probably in the $20-$30 range
Time Cruise maybe $10
Tiger Road around $5

I wish I could make an offer on those first two. Good luck with your deal, let us know how it turns out!

No offense meant Crabmaster, but your prices are a little out to lunch.

Time cruise - $9.95, 30 day listing, has sat un-purchased. After Ebay fees and shipping, he'd be lower than $10 anyway. I was planning to possibly buy it, but $10 seemed high.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/T...0&hash=item2c6bb8afa5

Bomberman 93, I went ahead and sorted them out:
http://videogames.pricech...man-93#completed-auctions

From VGPC with manual:
   $59.99   
   $60.00   
        $50.00
        $45.00
        $50.99
        $47.00
        $50.00

avg: $51.86

From VGPC without manual:
   $28.38   
        $44.00
        $42.00
        $35.00

avg: $37.25

The difference in averages is almost exactly $15,  so my price estimate was low on that, but still not $20 to $30.

 The estimate on Bonk 3 is silly, FYI.

http://videogames.pricech...enture#completed-auctions

The difference between a manual-less copy and a with manual copy over the last 4 months has had a high difference of 33, and a low difference of 7.

Absolutely none of your links work :/

I think you may be looking at the prices for the import (NTSC-J) versions of the games. Go to Ebay and type in the game name then click on "Sold Listings" NOT "Completed Listings". Make sure you are also looking at the US release and the TG16 release. Its easy to get them mixed up with PCEngine.

Or even use vgpc.com if you prefer. Again just make sure you are looking at listings from the right region.

I am using VGPC! It was copied text, all of these are taken directly from VGPC, I analyzed the ones that were obviously the NTSC version. The PC Engine versions are obviously not in the $60 range for Bomberman 93, and not in the 200 range for Bonk 3.

http://videogames.pricech...man-93#completed-auctions

The $3.26 and $13.99 are clearly the PC Engine ones.

I don't know how you could imagine the PC Engine version of 93 would be in the $40-60 range. Its a $10-15 game, max.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/N...0&hash=item2327cc6bd1

And for Bonk 3.

http://videogames.pricech...enture#completed-auctions

The $59.99 is the one PC engine one. In short, all of my numbers came from US versions only.  Clearly, you did not look at VGPC before quoting prices.

Edit: I should note, that the 24 Oct Bomberman 93 actually sold for $45. Also, VGPC did not have this recent manual-less BIN,  for $54.99

http://www.ebay.com/itm/B...s&hash=item2ec548ee89

Or this Bonk 3 BIN for $210, increasing the range.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/B...s&hash=item2ec5e3ff28

Are you feeling ok? That link you sent for the Bomberman 93' says right in the title the words: "PC-Engine", "Import" and "Japan". We are discussing the NTSC-U TG16 price ranges are we not?

You also have a link to a HU Card only that sold for $55, but you have trouble believing someone would pay $20-$30 for the manual? You do realize that manuals typically sell for 50% of the games price in most cases (that generally applies across all systems with some exceptions). Your own link fits my price range pretty well.

 Bonk 3 Hu Card alone has sold for anywhere from $80-$170. Because it was one of the games that came packages without a jewel case the manual tends to go for a bit more in comparison to games that do (one of those exceptions I mentioned above). How is my range of $75-$100+ off?

Your own links show my prices to be pretty darn close so I'm really unsure as to how you are coming up with your prices. I feel like I'm missing something or that we are talking about completely different things.

You know what I haven't had in a while?  Big League Chew.

[Crabmaster2000]

Are you feeling ok? That link you sent for the Bomberman 93' says right in the title the words: "PC-Engine", "Import" and "Japan". We are discussing the NTSC-U TG16 price ranges are we not?

You also have a link to a HU Card only that sold for $55, but you have trouble believing someone would pay $20-$30 for the manual? You do realize that manuals typically sell for 50% of the games price in most cases (that generally applies across all systems with some exceptions). Your own link fits my price range pretty well.

 Bonk 3 Hu Card alone has sold for anywhere from $80-$170. Because it was one of the games that came packages without a jewel case the manual tends to go for a bit more in comparison to games that do (one of those exceptions I mentioned above). How is my range of $75-$100+ off?

Your own links show my prices to be pretty darn close so I'm really unsure as to how you are coming up with your prices. I feel like I'm missing something or that we are talking about completely different things.

Are you even reading my posts? I linked to the PC Engine Hu card to demonstrate the PC Engine is a $10-15 game!

Once again, for clarity, from VGPC's and ebay's completed listings:

Bomberman 93 with manual:
       $59.99   
        $60.00   
        $50.00
        $45.00
        $50.99
        $47.00
        $50.00

avg: $51.86

Bomberman 93 without manual:
        $28.38   
        $44.00
        $42.00
        $35.00
        $54.00

avg: $40.68

The average difference between completed listings WITH manual and WITHOUT manual is $11. You can go through, like I did, and click EACH INDIVIDUAL LINK on VGPC and see which had manuals and which didn't. So, no, I don't think that the manual is worth $20-30. I think its worth $11, with some variation. People are paying about $11 more ON AVERAGE to get it with the manual.
 
Bonk 3 Hu card alone has sold from $150 to $170 in the past 4 months. It has sold, with manual, from $181 to $210. It experienced an absurd price jump past August, which is why it doesn't make sense to go back, otherwise the range gets silly. There are ones that have sold WITH manual for less than WITHOUT manual has sold for recently (One sold WITH MANUAL in June for $127, far less than the $170 WITHOUT manual that sold).  I'm not going to suggest the manual is worth negative money, lol. The MAX range there is $60, the minimum range is $11. That is nowhere near $75-100+, they don't even overlap.

The manuals were kept far more often with Turbografx games than NES or SNES, because the cases held them. While yes, the later TTI games did not come with cases, a lot of the manuals were saved, because people would repurpose other turbografx cases, to make matching cases for all of their games. So, the turbografx is more like the PSX, PS2, Genesis, than the Atari, NES, SNES, etc, in regards to manuals.


EDIT: You'll also note, that in VGPC's Bomberman 93 history, there are MORE copies with the manual, than without. That should tell you that the manual isn't as rare as an SNES manual.

Ok, there is your problem. Buying a Game AND Manual is not the same as buying just the Manual. Seeing what manuals have sold for by themselves is going to give you an idea of what the manual is worth. Not by comparing listings that have sold with and without the manual. It definitely makes a difference.

TG16 stuff is obscure enough on its own. When you start talking about uncommon manuals for an uncommon system its not comparable to stuff like SNES or PS2. If 30% of a SNES game listed have their manuals you could have 30-40 manuals listed. If you've got 50% of the listings for a game like Bonk 3 you'll have something more like 2-5 manuals listed. Its relative to the system/game being sold.

[Izret101]

Video games are like cars. The parts are usually worth more than total package.

Here is a great example i used highest sold/completed prices for all items.

Dracula X "CIB" missing inserts 300$
http://www.ebay.com/itm/C...s&hash=item2ec5fe63e9

Dracula X CIB for real. Box front heavily faded 290$
http://www.ebay.com/itm/C...s&hash=item5d3656ede2

Dracula X cart only 170$
http://www.ebay.com/itm/C...s&hash=item565180fa87

Dracula X box/manual only 160$
http://www.ebay.com/itm/C...s&hash=item19d71d9133

[Beardcore84]

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[Izret101]

I KNOW EVERYTHING

[DarkKobold]

Video games are like cars. The parts are usually worth more than total package.

Here is a great example i used highest sold/completed prices for all items.

Dracula X "CIB" missing inserts 300$
http://www.ebay.com/itm/C...s&hash=item2ec5fe63e9

Dracula X CIB for real. Box front heavily faded 290$
http://www.ebay.com/itm/C...s&hash=item5d3656ede2

Dracula X cart only 170$
http://www.ebay.com/itm/C...s&hash=item565180fa87

Dracula X box/manual only 160$
http://www.ebay.com/itm/C...s&hash=item19d71d9133

So, apparently 10% more is equivalent to 100% to 200% more. Gotcha.

[Izret101]

It was one example out of the hundreds of thousands of games for sale world wide.

The prices ranging on Bonk 3 from 180-400$s for purchased and paid for copies makes so much more sense you are saying?
http://www.ebay.com/csc/V...1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc

Oh here is another one that make perfect sense
Earthbound CIB for 450
http://www.ebay.com/itm/E...s&hash=item3a7dc49904

Earthbound CIB for over 1 grand
http://www.ebay.com/itm/E...s&hash=item27ce943da4

Shit is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it.

Pikmin 2 Somone BINed it for 60$s CIB
http://www.ebay.com/itm/P...s&hash=item43b78fc7ad

Pikmin 1 and 2 CIb went for 61 at auction
http://www.ebay.com/itm/P...s&hash=item2325af3ee8

Again cherry picking results here there were some copies that sold for even more and MANY copies that sold for much less.

[DarkKobold]

Also note, I didn't "cherry pick," for Bomberman 93, I took a mathematical average across all available data, and used that to determine the approximate price of the loose manual. For Bonk 3, I provided ranges. You are the one who cherry picked, if anything. I just used the numbers YOU provided.

Crabmaster went on VGPC, knowing jack about TG16 collecting, halved the value of the games, and assumed those were the manual prices. He gave beardcore the impression they were worth gold, so Beardcore ignored my messages, thinking I was lowballing.

[Izret101]

Ahhh so that is the problem.
Well clearly you were the person who felt they were not worth what someone else thought they were.
Eventually he will either change his mind and lower the price or find someone who will pay his price.
Keep hunting i'm sure that 15$ manual will show up.

If the price you offered was based on a statistical average just keep holding out there is always stuff available for below average cost right? Otherwise average prices wouldn't be needed right?

EDIT
Side note based on your assumptions why don't you just buy a CIB copy of the game and use your incomplete copy to defer the costs?
It only missing the manual shouldn't hurt your price. At least not based on the super random prices on eBay.

EDIT 2
http://videogames.pricech...-mario-bros-and-duck-hunt
I know some people would love to unload dozens of copies of this game. Average price is 4.87 bucks you interested? I bet they would cut you a deal and sell them for 4.50. Hell maybe an even 4$!

[DarkKobold]

EDIT
Side note based on your assumptions why don't you just buy a CIB copy of the game and use your incomplete copy to defer the costs?
It only missing the manual shouldn't hurt your price. At least not based on the super random prices on eBay.

Actually, its funny you mention that. I've been kicking myself for passing on the $50 Bomberman 93, I guess I was holding out for BC to get back to me. I could have resold it for $55 now, and basically covered my fees and costs, and gotten the manual for free. Oh well, it will show up again, and I'll do that.

I actually did exactly that to get my Neutopia II manual. I think my out of pocket was around $5 to cover fees and shipping.

[DarkKobold]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/B...;orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

Guess I need to eat crow.

[Crabmaster2000]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/B...;orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

Guess I need to eat crow.

No worries. Now that you're on the site though we'd love to get to know you a bit better so that your not just the "crazy TG16 Manual guy". Why not introduce yourself here:

http://www.rfgeneration.c.../index.php?topic=2931.810

[Izret101]

@Kobold LOL
At least you had the balls to point it out.
You get a +1 in my book

[Crabmaster2000]

@Kobold LOL
At least you had the balls to point it out.
You get a +1 in my book

Unfortunately getting a +1 in Izrets book means a - 5 in everyone elses

[Crabmaster2000]

This seems quite high to me, but I'm pretty bad at arcade pricing. Can anyone help me out here?

http://princegeorge.kijij...Arcade-W0QQAdIdZ456981150