reproduction collection

[hybrid]

not a problem

[RegalSin]

Once I found out the game was originally from another country, I said to hell

Partially reprogrammed

They said the same thing about Secret Of Evermore but yet people are convinced it is not Secret Of Mana. However this is no diffrent.

2. Chaning around somebody elses programming does not make it your own.
3. Hey there is Star Ocean/ Secret Of Mana II Translations floating around but everybody knows it is a pirate.
4. Getting papers does not make it a original game as with REZ being ranned off the assembley line like Tee-shirts made from all around the world with a signature.

5. Hey guess what it is not there game to begin with. It is somebody elses and they just translated, flashed it, and slap a cover on it and called it there own.

6. All the paperwork means is they can sell the game in a gamestore like Gamestop. Nothing more. Hella there is fully completed games out there being sold on the get go everyday that has no papers at all.


THE PAPERS JUST MAKE THIS A LICENSED COPY. THAT IS ALL.
It is not there own game period.

That is like if somebody took my music and changed the words around and got it licensed and the original person said hey that is my song.

Is the original creators of game getting anything out of this?

Eitherway Beggar Prince is a legal pirate.

are you condoning making copies or dumps using a "copy solution"?

No I was refering to solutions involing you with a recordable device that can read on the game system you are using. Take the NES flash card/ USB reader.
You can load games on the get go along with Swap tatics....which alot of people get ticked off knowing you need special settings.

These reproductions this whole topic about aren't repros ( like REZ ) they are pirated copies with a fancy name. They have no value whatesoever but only to collectors who can spot them as pirates.

Also RF Generation doesn't condone or support piracy or other illegal activites mentioned by some of our members. Besides the legal implications,

Then close this topic and admit the "staff" agrees a true reproduction AKA rerelease is like REZ and these so called reproductions that uses game files ala roms is NO DIFFRENT THEN PIRATED GOODS

Then close this nono topic.

[Tan]

Ignore pretty much everything RegalSin said, he's just blowing smoke out of his ass. Beggar Prince is not a pirated game, in fact the Super Fighter Team and the original developer have a close relationship and were both involved in the game's re-release outside of Taiwan.

[Mr. Ksoft]

Damn, you just kept me from writing a very energetic post by saying what I wanted to say in a single paragraph minus a bunch of obscenities.

Stupid troll.  Someone needs to ban the &$%#er already...

I do want to say, though, that I agree with ONE thing RS said.  Reproductions don't have any real value, because yeah, they're fakes.  They only have what I guess you could call "virtual" value... sort of like "I've always wanted Game X for System X but it was never released... I'd pay this much for it!"

[logical123]

Damn, you just kept me from writing a very energetic post by saying what I wanted to say in a single paragraph minus a bunch of obscenities.

Stupid troll.  Someone needs to ban the &$%#er already...

I do want to say, though, that I agree with ONE thing RS said.  Reproductions don't have any real value, because yeah, they're fakes.  They only have what I guess you could call "virtual" value... sort of like "I've always wanted Game X for System X but it was never released... I'd pay this much for it!"

Can we take a vote on how many people want him banned? He has been here for about 2 weeks and has pissed a lot of people off, just because of stupid comments/rants that make no damn sense whatsoever!! He constantly lies and fails to even remotely admit that perhaps he is wrong.

Also RF Generation doesn't condone or support piracy or other illegal activites mentioned by some of our members. Besides the legal implications,

Then close this topic and admit the "staff" agrees a true reproduction AKA rerelease is like REZ and these so called reproductions that uses game files ala roms is NO DIFFRENT THEN PIRATED GOODS

Then close this nono topic.

And this comment... Well... Anyone with a brain could understand that you are an idiot, and that this topic was not supporting piracy. It was saying that "I have these repro games". Obviously, the people involved with this topic are not actually doing the pirating. And... (!) Tan is just saying that rfgen as a whole does not 'officially' support piracy, due to legal issues. Piracy is wrong, we get it. Now go learn to be civilized.

[RegalSin]

sort of like "I've always wanted Game X for System X but it was never released... I'd pay this much for it

This is exactly what I am talking about. People who can't wing the wallet and decides buying one of these copys would do so instead getting an alternative solution like emulating on a Dreamcast or X-box.

Virtual Value

Or what is known as Internet money which has no value as the same with net dollars. Now let me go back to my virtual gardening after get to the last stage of Virtual hussy  and Virtual kingpin but then I will decided to go into my virtual pool and play some virtual swimming lessons after finishing virtual fighter.

[ApolloBoy]

I just did a search on this RegalSin guy, and all I've gotta say is wow. Just wow. This guy is like the ultimate troll.

[Tan]

I just did a search on this RegalSin guy, and all I've gotta say is wow. Just wow. This guy is like the ultimate troll.

Did you search Youtube yet?

[ApolloBoy]

I just did a search on this RegalSin guy, and all I've gotta say is wow. Just wow. This guy is like the ultimate troll.

Did you search Youtube yet?

I have. I swear, you name the forum, chances are RegalSin's already been there.

[hybrid]

personally there is value in a reproduction its not monatary value or a collectors value its the satisfaction of acutally playing the game on an nes,snes,genesis, atari 2600...etc yourself.

"sort of like "I've always wanted Game X for System X but it was never released... I'd pay this much for it"

I've always wanted The game Free Fall for nes, but it was never released or even made into a cart before.

(if you don't know the history of the game it was compiled from a binary source code and was never put to a cart. also it is public domain)

BTW what happened to having a game to play for fun??

[Tan]

I just did a search on this RegalSin guy, and all I've gotta say is wow. Just wow. This guy is like the ultimate troll.

Did you search Youtube yet?

I have. I swear, you name the forum, chances are RegalSin's already been there.

Well we have to be fair and let everyone have a chance to be a member of this community, it's only fair. His reputation over the last 9 years is well earned but we'll still give him the benefit of the doubt, that's why despite his combative and argumentative nature, he's still hanging on by a thread.

[logical123]

Jesus Christ... He has been banned from a previous site for being "Antisemitic". RegalSin is famous in the world of video game forums, being know for his strange way of talking, and his tenancy to be a damn troll. I say we give him a chance, but if shit continues, then the forum will become really weird to read. And if there is any racism on this site, I think that he should be permbanned immediately. Does anyone agree?

Do a search on Google for "RegalSin", and on youtube, and you'll know what I mean. 

[cverz2]

The problem with repro's is that they are great for people like us. who will get them for playing or just the "cool" factor.

But I have seen copies on Ebay of the Final Fantasy ones and many others going for rediculous amounts.   They are scamming innocent people who don't know any different.

They are advertising them as RARE, authentics.

And some of the ones I saw were being sold by reputable video game sellers.

OK I am done ranting.

[RegalSin]

And some of the ones I saw were being sold by reputable video game sellers

Well show us, show us please


If they are reputable then let find out the eassssyy wayyy.

[logical123]

And some of the ones I saw were being sold by reputable video game sellers

Well show us, show us please


If they are reputable then let find out the eassssyy wayyy.

Show what? That there have been instances in the past where a reputable seller has sold a repro or bootleg? Because we can't. 95% of the time, these listings are removed. The other 5% of the time, do you honestly think we can dig up those auction pages anymore? Ask real questions please.