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« on: April 10, 2008, 10:25:21 PM »

how many people here have reproductions and what do you have?
heres the ones i have
airball
escape from atlantis
chronicles or radia war
earthworm jim 2
Earthworm jim 3
joy mech fight
boogerman
Ys II
earthbound

and i'm also getting soon
Tekken 3
splatterhouse WG
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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2008, 09:20:49 AM »

Damn, that's a lot to blow on Repros Smiley  I would get some repros but after thinking about it I decided I'd much rather save up for a real copy of Recca.
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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2008, 08:43:09 PM »

I have a repro NWC cart just for the novelty of it. I played it a few times. I like it more as collected than playable.
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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2008, 06:09:39 AM »

Earthbound Zero
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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2008, 06:05:51 PM »

Nice repro collection Smiley

I have the following for NES:

NWC repro (first batch with different manual)
Sudoku grey (original limited release in tin can)
Sudoku retrozone release -1 variant
Sudoku retrozone release -2 variant
Airball
PowerPak Lite
Stadium Events NTSC April Fool's edition
Color Caves (music on NES cart)
Vegavox (also music on NES cart)

and I have three more on the way to me right now:  Tower of Radia numbered, and Glider regular release + special edition release.  I'm definitely gonna pick up a copy of Chunkout 2 as well, which was just released...been thinking about getting some of those other reproductions like Earthworm etc, but as a collector they're less appealing in the short term as they're not limited in any way (created on demand).  I do pick up NES carts with original software on it, but I dunno if I'd consider that stuff "homebrew" (aka hacks, game ports, etc). 

I also have the Eurocon demo from Eurocon 2007 (I think that's an Atari 2600 repro). 
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« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2008, 08:31:37 PM »

recently i picked up
Free Fall  on an agi death race board
sonic the Hedgehog
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« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2008, 08:40:05 PM »

what is a reproduction cart exactly?
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« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2008, 08:53:44 PM »

I dunno how to explain it, really, but for instance there's this guy that makes them by having you send in an existing NES cart and he puts a new ROM on it, so you can play it on your NES.  It's usually done for games that were never released on carts, like betas, fan translations, and ROM hacks.  I myself was gonna pick up Earthbound Zero and Super Mario Bros. 2 Japanese version, but then the guy decided to stop until September... so I'll order them then.
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« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2008, 09:30:44 PM »

I dunno how to explain it, really, but for instance there's this guy that makes them by having you send in an existing NES cart and he puts a new ROM on it, so you can play it on your NES.  It's usually done for games that were never released on carts, like betas, fan translations, and ROM hacks.  I myself was gonna pick up Earthbound Zero and Super Mario Bros. 2 Japanese version, but then the guy decided to stop until September... so I'll order them then.

Other times it's a copy of a popular game that may be too expensive for the average collector/gamer to afford, i.e. the famous 1990 Nintendo World Championships Gold cartridge or say Final Fantasy 1 for the NES.
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« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2008, 09:51:34 PM »


Other times it's a copy of a popular game that may be too expensive for the average collector/gamer to afford, i.e. the famous 1990 Nintendo World Championships Gold cartridge or say Final Fantasy 1 for the NES.
Personally, I don't care for these type of reproductions. It's fine when they make it obvious it's a reproduction (like making the case clear, or just putting a disclaimer on the label) but it's only a matter of time until some asshole starts making NWC carts that look identical to the real thing.
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« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2008, 10:04:03 PM »

it's only a matter of time until some asshole starts making NWC carts that look identical to the real thing.

I agree, it's right up there with resealing games as far as I'm concerned. Neat in theory for those not caring about authenticity, but can easily be used for shady business too.
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« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2008, 10:27:11 PM »

what is a reproduction cart exactly?

A repo is a pirated game basically. The buyer is too dumb to say hey that is the same exact thing as downloading the rom and buying a special controller to play the game afar like normal.

If you can get it for dirt cheap then maybe it will be worth something but remember the original supplier could just hang back and wait for the day when making back up copies ( fake repro's / pirated  ) becomes a value.

Think of it for people who is too obssesed, too poor, too snooby to use a emulator and does not have a true copy solution.


copy solution


Mulitcarts...have been around since the Famicom days and standard floppy discs have been around. These are basically a whole bunch of games with graphics removed from them to fit them on a flashed ( eppee rom ) chiped.

NES ( famicom ) some have flip sides activated by holding buttons down when resetting.

Any cart system has what is called a Copy device. These can be sold from as low as 10-300 dollars. If your lucky you can find one cheap. However if your smart you will build one yourself.

Hu cards ( SMS  ,PCE ), NES ( that orange cart ), SNES/ Genesis ( hardware copy devices ), N64 , and so forth.

The PSX also has a hardware copy solution simular to the super gameboy.

CD systems....all discs can be copied with a direct recorder device, regular burner with correct settings, or even pass threw.

Also using AR to allow discs being written also helps.

Also dummy space is put on some DVD to make the game look big. When you can remove it.

Saturn, PSX, X-box, GCN

Pass threw..means that you can fool the system into loading the game files threw a internet connection cable like etherail.

GCN, PS3, and so forth...........

The point is.


reproductions is fake copies


However the person is lying about the cost of the reproduction since some arent willing to order from lesser suppliers.

A great example of a reproduction taken as a original game is.

[img width=300 height=453]http://www.racketboy.com/retro/beggarprince-cover.jpg[/img]

This game was basically a korean RPG ( like many chinese, indonesian games ) is unkown to most. People got together to translate the game and released it for sale in the USA.

However while people are tempted to buy reproductions these games
is made by somebody no diffrent then you and is not be taken as a NES  game in terms of value.

In terms of value it will be long long time before these games have any value.

Also these reproductions is not a true reproduction. A reproduction is a game that has been rereleased like..

[img width=342 height=486]http://www.gamasutra.com/features/20050506/rez_packaging.jpg[/img]

This game has been officially rereleased dew to the high demand and value of it. It was repoduced by a company in the USA which is diffrent to the original source. This is a true reproduction

Another example is when a game is given a directors cut to show the diffrence between a release. A directors cut like the popular.

Resident Evil
Sonic DX

is basically the same game but with additional material. The directors cut is not the original in terms of collection value but has a vlaue of it's own.

then there is the collectors edition boxset. This is another way to reproduce something by dressing it up diffrently. It might have posters, tee-shirts,

FFVII: International Edition ...Anerversary edition
Rockman Aniversary collection
Sonic Gems.
Sonic Jam.
 

END OF LINE...


it's only a matter of time until some asshole starts making NWC carts that look identical to the real thing.


That is why these pirated copies should never be taken as true games or a real copy solution. If you dislike the people doing so then take action and report them to trade authority.

Lastly people have been making copies of original games for a long time but there is a way to tell the diffrence.
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« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2008, 10:34:35 PM »

Beggar prince is not a reproduction, it's a licensed translation. Partially reprogrammed and officially a retail product, more in line with a licensed homebrew. It being a commerical product is the reason it's in our database. A reproduction is a copy of a game, Beggar Prince is a re-worked and translated game released worldwide, there's a huge difference.

I'll also mention that Rez is a re-printing done by Game Quest Direct and also not considered a reproduction, same with Disgaea: Hour of Darkness, Gitaroo Man, Persona 2 and Resident Evil 3 and others.

Also RF Generation doesn't condone or support piracy or other illegal activites mentioned by some of our members. Besides the legal implications, it kind of defeats the purpose of this website and it's goals, so anything said here by a member in regards to copyright infringement, is solely the opinion of that member and not of the community or staff as a whole. Wink
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« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2008, 10:46:02 PM »

wow very informative and something else i had already known.

heres a quick question for you is it a reproduction if there was infact no physical copy to begin with?

are you condoning making copies or dumps using a "copy solution"?
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« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2008, 10:47:51 PM »

wow very informative and something else i had already known.

heres a quick question for you is it a reproduction if there was infact no physical copy to begin with?

are you condoning making copies or dumps usin' a "copy solution"?

I was editing my previous post as you typed this, I had to put some distance between us and RegalSin's comments. Tongue
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