BCS Series / college football bowl talk

[wrldstrman]

Anytime polls are decided by peoples opinions they are going to be bias. It wouldnt matter if Boise state could beat all the top ten teams but double digit scores the voters will still favor there favorite and home teams. Greatest example is Notre Dame they get ranked in the top ten year in and year out. I cant remember the last time they beat a top program and have lost 8 straight bowl games  soon to be 9 once LSU blows them out. tHE YEAR oKlahoma played Miami they didnt deserve the chance. With a playoff the regular season would mean even more and the teams would play harder because 8 or 16 teams would have a chance to win the championship. The way it is now once you lose your out the rest of the season doesnt mean squat. And like I said earlier there are to many conferences that after the top 2 or 3 teams rest of the teams suck. Im not knocking teams but name one quailty win Wiscosin had this year. Did they win one game against a top 25 team. This thread is a good reason we need a playoff.

[wrldstrman]

Plus after bowl season ends it will be a good indicator of who was and wasnt deserving of the ranking.

[chrisbid]

With a playoff the regular season would mean even more and the teams would play harder because 8 or 16 teams would have a chance to win the championship.

you end up with teams that phone it in, once they are assured of a spot

The way it is now once you lose your out the rest of the season doesnt mean squat.

essentially, the regular season IS the playoff, those games played in august and september mean just as much as the ones in november and december, a playoff means only the games in december and januarary reallycount

And like I said earlier there are to many conferences that after the top 2 or 3 teams rest of the teams suck. Im not knocking teams but name one quailty win Wiscosin had this year. Did they win one game against a top 25 team. This thread is a good reason we need a playoff.

Wisconsin had their chance against Michigan and lost, had they won that game, they wouldve been in a BCS game, and perhaps they wouldve had a shot at the buckeyes instead of florida.  The regular season IS the playoff, there is no need to water down regular season games into exhibitions

[phoenix1967]

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As for Michigan "having their chance", and it not being fair to OSU..... It happens in the NFL all the time! teams beat other teams during the regular season, and then lose to them in the play-offs.

So yes, I do think it would be fair if Michigan played and beat OSU.

You're comparing apples and oranges here. The NFL has a playoff, the NCAA does not. All the NFL teams play a 16 game season, NCAA teams play 11, 12, or 13 game seasons before their bowl game (no consistency). The NFL structures their playoffs by conference, and if you win your conference you go to the championship game; the NCAA has no such criteria. In the NFL, the teams with the best records in their conferences are not guarenteed to go to the Super Bowl to play each other, they have to earn it against the other playoff teams. And how ridiculous would it be if the NFL had a poll to decide who goes to the super bowl!

The only instance where your argument holds water is if the winner in one NFL CONFERENCE played the winner of the other CONFERENCE in the NFL regular season and they end up meeting in the Super Bowl to determine the champion. 

Imo, as long as there are polls the system is going to be flawed. NCAA basketball has it right with sending out bids for the NCAA tournament.

All that needs to happen with NCAA football is for a committee to meet at the end of the season to determine who should be ranked 1-4. 1 plays 4. 2 plays 3. The winners play in a championship game. If they want to use the current polling BCS system calculations they can. 1v4 and 2v3 would still play in the respective BCS bowl games as well, so there'd be no disruption to the revenue machine.

The championship game could happen 2 weeks after these bowl games (like the NFL does with the Super bowl after the conference championships) to allow the student athletes to go back to school a bit, and still have time to prepare for the final game and allow for the appropriate allotment of tickets to be sold to those wanting to attend the game from the repective schools.

The other thing is that the BCS championship game should be promoted throughout the year in the same manner as the super bowl. That way, if you can get at-large tickets to attend the game, a college football fan can plan accordingly. The final game could even be held the Saturday before the NFL conference chapionship games to boost the ratings. People can plan parties around it, yadda yadda...










 

[chrisbid]

a four team playoff would not eliminate controversy, it only shifts it from the process of deciding the top 2 teams, to the process of deciding the top 4 teams.  if there was a 4 team playoff this year, you would have three teams deserving of 2 spots (Michigan, Louisville, and Boise State), and every year, you have a different number of teams on that top teir. 

[Hydrobond]

a four team playoff would not eliminate controversy, it only shifts it from the process of deciding the top 2 teams, to the process of deciding the top 4 teams.  if there was a 4 team playoff this year, you would have three teams deserving of 2 spots (Michigan, Louisville, and Boise State), and every year, you have a different number of teams on that top teir. 

Actually, no matter what a playoff will only decide the first place team.  The second place team could be any team played by the first place team throughout the playoff.  As in the second best team can be eliminated in the first round by the best team.   A playoff actually introduces controversy.

[chrisbid]

totally

[captain_nintendo]

*Gives up on this topic* 


Come on Rose Bowl!

Maze and Blue all the way.

[chrisbid]

totally, it would be cool to see the big ten finish 1-2-3

[Tynstar]

There is no solution.

[Hydrobond]

totally, it would be cool to see the big ten finish 1-2-3

3? 

I thought Wisconsin didn't get in.

[chrisbid]

but they are facing auburn in the outback bowl.  if they have an impressive showing, they could easily be voted nubmer 3

[Seamar]

Michigan is going to hand USC it's ass. And then everybody will know they were wrong abouyt the bowl set up.

Plain and simple.

Interesting. So it turns out that Michigan sucks and the "overrated" USC team was victorious. Guess it wasn't as Plain and simple as you thought.

[Mezmoron]

Who cares?!  Penn State whooped on Tennessee!  Let's go P-S-U!

Ken

[captain_nintendo]

Michigan is going to hand USC it's ass. And then everybody will know they were wrong abouyt the bowl set up.

Plain and simple.

Interesting. So it turns out that Michigan sucks and the "overrated" USC team was victorious. Guess it wasn't as Plain and simple as you thought.

If my team could not be #1, then I really did not care. Oh and lets see USC come to the big house and do that. USC had a nice home game there at the Rose Bowl...... Must be nice


Wisconsin beat a "good" team from the "mighty" SEC 
My team is done, so I really dont care what happens from this point on.

(yes, I am taking my ball and going home )