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« Reply #705 on: August 31, 2006, 01:06:37 PM »

I just got one of my syllabus' for a history course I'm taking, Europeon History from 1000-1500 and it looks like half the course will be cow-towing to Arabs and the rest will be womens rights.

Oh boy.

How are Arabs even a part of European history? And women?

Arabs: Crusades.

 
Women: Joan of Arc, Catherine de Medici, Catherine of Aragon, Queen Isabella, Eleanor of Aquitane, and I'm sure there are many more that they could talk about in that class.
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« Reply #706 on: August 31, 2006, 01:48:48 PM »

/Regarding Shannon's new avatar.

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« Reply #707 on: August 31, 2006, 02:47:04 PM »

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How are Arabs even a part of European history? And women? I hate that. There's always the "role of women" section of every chapter in every history book. They always say the same thing. Women made babies and cooked. Then they try to fluff it up, so it sounds like whatever ancient culture considered women's rights to be super important. I'm sure ancient Europeans were all very concerned. After all, what would raping and pillaging be without the raping?

How about we just sum it up right here. From the beginning of time until the 20th century, women made babies and cooked. That was all they did.

Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking about the ladies.

Sure there were a few big wig ladies but for the most part it was all the guy with the biggest army.

As far as the Arabs go, the Moors were invading Spain and the Europeons were invading The Holy Lands. Probably all the history of the Crusades will be about how horrible the were. Like that retarded Kingdom of Heaven movie. In the movie the  Templars at castle Kerak surrender to Saladin and go to Jerusalum. In History they were betrayed, captured, and, when they didn't forsake Christianity and convert to Islam, skinned alive.
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« Reply #708 on: September 01, 2006, 08:27:56 AM »

Coughing up lung butter sucks!
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« Reply #709 on: September 01, 2006, 10:45:06 AM »

I have my first day of work tomorrow. 
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« Reply #710 on: September 01, 2006, 10:55:38 AM »

Coughing up lung butter sucks!

Well, that makes my banana and Fruity Pebbles seem alot less appetizing!

I am unemployed again...my boss was asking me to do things that would have the possiblility of getting me in big trouble and ruining my reputation as an archaeologist if I was caught, and he said he'd fire me if I didn't do what he told me to do.  So, I quit...and turned him in for unethical archaeology work.  Now I'm waiting for the drama to unfold.  Nothing he could get fired for, but his reputation will be ruined.

I just burned another "bridge" in my life and I'm currently roasting marshmellows over its flame.
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« Reply #711 on: September 01, 2006, 11:15:25 AM »

Damn that sucks. Can you go into details?
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« Reply #712 on: September 01, 2006, 01:26:29 PM »

Good luck Freak!


Sorry to hear about the bad news Pop Culture Portal.



Also sorry about the lung butter comment Tongue
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« Reply #713 on: September 01, 2006, 01:38:21 PM »

That sucks, PopCulturePortal, I hope things work out for you.
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« Reply #714 on: September 01, 2006, 01:47:54 PM »

Damn that sucks. Can you go into details?

LONG POST ALERT!!

I'm going to try...I'm (or was) a contract archaeologist for the local university.  What the majority of archaeologists do isn't searching for some lost civilization or carrying a whip, although some of us like to think we do (sarcasm).

Most archaeologists (U.S. archaeologists) do what is called "compliance archaeology."  There are ALOT of laws that the federal and state governments have put in to place to protect and preserve potentially significant archaeological sites.  An archaeological site could be something like Cahokia Mounds near St. Louis:

http://www.cahokiamounds.com/welcome.html

Moundville in Alabama:

http://moundville.ua.edu/home.html

...or Poverty Point in Louisiana.

http://www.nps.gov/popo/

What makes these significant is that they add to the history of our country, or to the history of the human race. Not all archaeological sites have to be this big or significant.  A western homestead from the 1800s can be significant, too.  A homestead could help researchers better understand past ,iving conditions of the people from this time period.

Also, archaeologists deal mostly with past peoples' "trash," or what they left behind.  This trash could be arrowheads, pottery, or burials associated with ancient Native American groups....or, the trash could be plates, marbles, bones, or tons of other stuff from slightly more modern archaeological sites.

That being said, most archaeological sites are found from people doing the "compliance" work that I mentioned earlier.

Compliance work usually comes around when someone in the government (local, state or federal) wants something built...something like a new post office, a new cell tower, or a new road.  All of these building projects, and tons others like them, are paid by local, state or federal governments.  There are laws out there that say before even a shovel is put in to the ground to build the new post office, road, or whatever, teams of scientists, including archaeologists, biologists, botanists, and scores of others, must examine the construction site before anything is built to make sure nothing historically significant or endangered will be destroyed.  We, the scientists, make sure the people who are building these things are in "compliance" with all the mostly federal laws out there.  We are sorta the "gatekeepers" or protectors of history...not to sound dramatic or anything.... laugh

Hope I'm not loosing anyone....So, the last project I was doing for the university was for the construction of a rock quarry site.  This involved the Army Corps of Engineers, the Kentucky Mining Commission, and the Kentucky Heritage Council, all of which are primarily some type of state or federal agency.

Our client, the company paying us to do the compliance work for them, was unhappy that I found something at the construction site.

Well, I found what could POSSIBLY be a prehistoric Native American village or camp site.  My boss, the PhD, was out at the site with me that day, and blew it off as insignificant, without properly examining the site and doing research on the site.  The site MIGHT be significant, or might not...no one knows for sure.

Instead, so the construction of the quarry could go through and so our client wouldn't get pissed off at us, he wanted to give the green light to the construction.  I said no.

With this type of archaeological site, there is a very slight possibility that Native American burials could be found.  He refused, in so many words, to make sure nothing of the sort was there.  He threatened to fire me if I didn't agree with him.

I know it may not sound like a big deal, but if during the construction someone found Native American burials, and it came back that the site wasn't properly investigated/researched, I could be in HUGE trouble, especially from Native American groups, since I was ultimately in charge of this project.  If there's even the slightest possibility that human remains could be found, I'm not going to give the OK to these construction firms...these are people for Christ's sake...I've know a few instances where human remains were found and they were thrown into the local river, just to cover up mistakes made...and those people faced HUGE federal charges when they were caught.  Ethically and, well, just out of pure common sense, I'm not going to risk that.

Plus, I found out that my boss has been overcharging our clients and skimming off of my paycheck and pocketing the extra money, instead of putting extra money back into the university so current students could benefit.  Believe it or not, there are huge loopholes in the laws that allows him to do that.  If he can somehow justify that the extra money is going towards the university, he doesn't have to prove to anyone what that money is actually going towards, including himself...yes, confusing, I know...he's already in trouble with the IRS for not reporting enough income on numerous past years' tax returns...

...what an ass...after it was all said and done, I was going to make about 10k a year...McDonalds could do better than that...and I don't need a degree for that either...

Guess Tynstar will be happy...I can get back to scanning pictures for the RFgen database! laugh
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« Reply #715 on: September 01, 2006, 03:15:38 PM »

What a dick head. What is going to happen with the dig site? Why does this ass still have a job? Good luck on finding a new job.


Oh yeah get to scaning you bum.  Wink
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« Reply #716 on: September 01, 2006, 04:00:18 PM »

wow! what a story. it sucks that you're out of a job but it sounds like quitting was the best thing to do. what a dick.

he'll get his one day. good luck man.
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« Reply #717 on: September 01, 2006, 04:02:49 PM »

Before I left, I called the client and basically told them what would happen if they DID find human remains, and supposedly (according to a professor at the university I've been keeping in touch with), they've changed part of the construction site to avoid the archaeology site altogether...so, at least the client listened to me.

The client could, in the worst case scenario, have their entire business, and its assets, seized by the government if they screwed up.  It's happened to other companies.  Most clients know what can happen...they just sometimes need a gentle reminder.

For those of you who like to "hunt" for arrowheads...you can do it, but with a few restrictions.  Basically, don't "hunt," including metal detecting, on federal lands.  Your ass will be thrown in jail and will be paying huge fines until you die.  Any artifact "stolen" from federal property becomes a type of "virus"...whatever it touches can be seized by the government.

Say you go metal detecting at Shiloh Battlefield Park (Civil War site) and dig up a belt buckle from a Confederate uniform.  Here's what they seize:

The metal detector, the pants you put the belt buckle in after diggin it up, the car you drive in to go home, the home (and everything in it) you walk in to after visiting Shiloh.

You decide to sell the thing on ebay?  OK, if it crosses state lines, more laws broken...if you sell it to someone in Canada, international laws are broken...you are officially screwed!

Anyway...on to something completely different...

I have a two-day 20 year high school reunion starting tonight and I'm stoked!  There will be much rejoicing and drinking to be made...and good Kentucky bar-b-que to eat!
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« Reply #718 on: September 01, 2006, 04:57:43 PM »

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« Reply #719 on: September 01, 2006, 06:10:16 PM »

Damn that sucks. Can you go into details?
If there's even the slightest possibility that human remains could be found, I'm not going to give the OK to these construction firms...these are people for Christ's sake...I've know a few instances where human remains were found and they were thrown into the local river, just to cover up mistakes made...and those people faced HUGE federal charges when they were caught.  Ethically and, well, just out of pure common sense, I'm not going to risk that.

This is why I think everyone should be cremated.  Burial grounds/graveyards are all just gigantic wastes of space. 

Sorry to hear about your boss and the loss of your job.  Better safe than sorry.  Hope you get back into the business soon. 
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