November Retro Community Playthrough - Super Metroid

[RetroRage]

Btw nanners and techwizard,

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do you guys have the same issue with Space Jump as me?  It seems like it only works when it wants to.

[singlebanana]

How to use Space Jump:

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It took me a while to figure it out, but what you have to do is keep your finger from even remotely pressing the jump button in between jumps. Before pressing the jump button again, let your body drop just a little first. Changing directions can be very aggravating since it can take you out of that tight spin. Getting through tight spaces can be rough.

[techwizard]

what rich said, also related to that:

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the same theory works really well on wall jumps, you have to let yourself drop a little, then press the direction opposite the wall first then A, but really quick one after the other.

[techwizard]

i'm really happy with the song used in brinstar depths:


because it was remixed for Prime 2 Echoes, one of my favourites in that soundtrack:

[JerryGreenwood]

I've played a 3D Metroid on the Wii and I was not a fan. I'm not a big fan of FPS so that's probably the reason I didn't like it, but it's not the same game.

Whenever a 2D game goes into the 3D world (like a Zelda or Castlevania), the entire dynamic changes. It might have the same characters and items and enemies, but the running around and jumping and combat are polar opposites. I'm not saying it's bad, but if you don't like 3D or FPS games, you probably won't like it.

If Nintendo still made 2D Metroid and Zelda games, I'd have a Wii.

@Tech, what problem did you have with the wall jump?

[singlebanana]

Anyone else get started on the game this weekend?

[JerryGreenwood]

Oh, forgot to mention my progress. I'm half way through.

I've been having a debate with myself about which game is better, this or SotN. I'm not talking about whether it more fun to shoot aliens in another galaxy or slash monsters in Dracula's castle. I'm focusing the design of the key items, rooms, and puzzles.

I think Super Metroid wins. SotN is a little more narrow. It's weird to say that about such a huge world, but it's really just about obtaining the Leap Stone and the Bat form. The majority of the puzzles in SotN is about being able to reach a higher platform. The other key items are usually only needed once, like the Spike Breaker, Bat Sonar, and the Mist form. To me, that's not very clever. SM couldn't be more different in this regard.

The variety of room design in SM is brilliant.

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Little things like areas where you have to; run before the floor crumbles beneath you, jump on floating platforms that sink into lava, push robots into spike pits, weave through passages as the ball, etc. I could go on and on about all the variety this game offers. Not to mention all the little tricks you can do.

Super Metroid is one of the most creative, well-designed games ever made. I forgot how smart it is. Glad I'm playing it again.

[Shadow Kisuragi]

You start to love each game for what it provides once you learn to break the intended mechanics. Both are so intricately designed when you play them outside of their intended methods. If you're familiar with the game, try watching speedruns to see some of the mechanics in play and you'll grow to appreciate each game in a different way.

[singlebanana]

I agree, SM is very clever and well-designed. It seems that for the most part, all of the items are essential for moving through the game. I'd say that the

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Screw Attack

, while useful of course, isn't exactly "essential" except for maybe one part of the game. There are things like I better about each game, but will say that as far as replayability and fun, I'd go with SotN. I'd like to expound upon this comparison, but for the sake of the playthrough, I'll wait until month's end.

[MaterialHandlerMike]

Anyone else get started on the game this weekend?

I worked the night shift on the weekend. Just starting now, that its my weekend. 4 days off. should be able to reach the checkpoint.

[techwizard]

@jerry greenwood, if it was Prime 3 Corruption, or Other M that you played, both of those are generally considered the worst in the series. try the original Metroid prime on gamecube, that one is really similar to super Metroid. Echoes is really good in the sense that it improves on a lot of systems that were a bit clunky in the first Prime, but overall I like the atmosphere and gameplay of Prime 1 better.

[JerryGreenwood]

I'd like to expound upon this comparison, but for the sake of the playthrough, I'll wait until month's end.

Same.

You start to love each game for what it provides once you learn to break the intended mechanics. Both are so intricately designed when you play them outside of their intended methods.

Agreed, but more so with SM. Aside from playing as Richter or using the Luck code, I'm not sure what mechanics you'd be breaking in SotN.

@jerry greenwood, if it was Prime 3 Corruption, or Other M that you played, both of those are generally considered the worst in the series. try the original Metroid prime on gamecube, that one is really similar to super Metroid.

I played Prime 3 Corruption. I didn't know it was the black sheep. I'll give original Prime a go, thanks!

[Shadow Kisuragi]

Sequence breaking in SOTN, for one. Here are a few well-known ones:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/b...ony-of-the-night/52519205

[techwizard]

@jerry greenwood, if it was Prime 3 Corruption, or Other M that you played, both of those are generally considered the worst in the series. try the original Metroid prime on gamecube, that one is really similar to super Metroid.

I played Prime 3 Corruption. I didn't know it was the black sheep. I'll give original Prime a go, thanks!

ya out of the Primes, 3 isn't great. it's much more linear I found, 1 and 2 are a lot closer to a true Metroid game in 3D. start with 1 though, you'll notice a lot of connections to Super Metroid.

[RetroRage]

Finished!

I couldn't take the picture in time, but my clear time was 1:27.  

I'm still working on my 100% run....I'm up to 93%.  I have no clue where the last few items are and I refuse to use a walkthrough to find them