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« on: May 17, 2013, 09:19:25 AM »

The author of this article suggests that it might just be kids trolling but I don't think it is. 

*puts on gramdpa glasses and pulls up pants way too high

When we were growing up, we didn't have the internet to rely on when we got stuck in a video game so that we could avoid using our brains or problem solving skills.  We had to FIGURE IT OUT and that was part of what made the game great.

http://kotaku.com/the-kid...with-super-metr-507848662
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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2013, 09:24:51 AM »

Time to call the Nintendo Power hotline....oh....wait.
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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2013, 10:43:30 AM »

A similar phenomenon with Ultima IV: http://www.brainygamer.co...r/2010/09/unplayable.html

The cause? The kids don't read the manual. They're used to games holding their hands and having arrows point exactly where they need to go.
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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2013, 11:29:08 AM »

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A similar phenomenon with Ultima IV: http://www.brainygamer.co...r/2010/09/unplayable.html

OK, this is begging for a community play-through (after Disney month) now.
 
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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2013, 12:37:05 PM »

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A similar phenomenon with Ultima IV: http://www.brainygamer.co...r/2010/09/unplayable.html

OK, this is begging for a community play-through (after Disney month) now.
 

That would be a cool one to playthrough, but I'm not sure we'd get much participation.
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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2013, 12:55:33 PM »

I like "y can't metroid crawl?" Its time to educate the young whipper snappers.
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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2013, 12:56:18 PM »

I'm willing to bet that they are just struggling with the game because its not that much fun Cheesy
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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2013, 12:58:52 PM »

I'm willing to bet that they are just struggling with the game because its not that much fun Cheesy

Good point. Wink
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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2013, 01:35:04 PM »

Someone posted this in the comment section of that link and I think it sums it up nicely:

"I'm a 80's / 90's kid, and yet I never played this game, so it's pretty likely I will have a pretty hard time with it, as well.

I don't believe for a second that kids nowadays are worse gamers than we were back in the day. I see videos of 9 year old kids playing Dragonforce's "Through the Fire and Flame" on Guitar Hero on expert difficulty, and that alone tells me that present-day kids are quite capable.

If we had something like Miiverse back in the day, we would also have been spamming it with pleas for help for Super Metroid, or Contra, or all the Mega Man games.

But we didn't, instead relying on trying and trying again until we got shit done; it's not that we were better gamers, it's just that that was the way games were, and we accepted it, and we played it because we had no other choice. It was the culture back then, where we were super patient and didn't rest until we could beat that damn underwater level in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

Put a modern-day kid in a similar scenario - say, put him in a deserted island with only a CRT TV, a NES and Battletoads, and I warantee you that the kid will play it endlessly until he's capable of beating the game on a single life.

If we were the "super hardcore gamers" as so many people seem to think, tell me: why was the Konami Code so popular? How many people actually beat Contra without using it (and Contra wasn't even THAT hard, mind you)? How many people actually finished Battletoads, Marble Madness, Punch Out!!, Ninja Gaiden I & II, etc?"
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« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2013, 01:45:59 PM »

Ah, the old playground discussions. You'd get stuck in a game and hope that somebody else had it so you could discuss it.

It wasn't always the case back then though. I remember trying to get some help in Tomba! when I was a wee tot and everybody looked at me and somebody said, "What's Tomba?"
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« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2013, 02:06:14 PM »

ya i don't think the ability for kids to mentally figure out these puzzles is any lower now than 20 years ago, it's just that they have the option now to give up and find a walkthrough. i'm sure if we had that option back then it would have been used just as much.
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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2013, 02:45:23 PM »

Crabby, you only picked quote because it mentioned TMNT.... Tongue
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« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2013, 02:53:39 PM »

I'm willing to bet that they are just struggling with the game because it is too much fun Cheesy

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A similar phenomenon with Ultima IV: http://www.brainygamer.co...r/2010/09/unplayable.html

OK, this is begging for a community play-through (after Disney month) now.
 

That would be a cool one to playthrough, but I'm not sure we'd get much participation.

I think we should do a Persona 4 playthrough.   Grin
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« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2013, 03:43:25 PM »

Crabby, you only picked quote because it mentioned TMNT.... Tongue

Its the same reason I picked this quote too Wink

I'm willing to bet that they are just struggling with the game because it is too much fun Cheesy

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A similar phenomenon with Ultima IV: http://www.brainygamer.co...r/2010/09/unplayable.html

OK, this is begging for a community play-through (after Disney month) now.
 

That would be a cool one to playthrough, but I'm not sure we'd get much participation.

I think we should do a Persona 4 playthrough.   Grin

I'd be so in for that!!!
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« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2013, 01:54:56 PM »

A lot of the newer games are easier. Back then we had Arcade ports which were meant to be hard to suck quarters. We also had games costing 2x what we do now so kids got about 2-3  games a year at most if lucky. Games were mostly shorter in the 80's early 90's so they made them much harder to get more replay value. Not a knock on the newer generation of gamers but your skills can only be tested as much as they practiced.

If the kids were tested more they would be more used to tougher games and figure it out pretty easy.
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