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Crabmaster2000
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Help Troubleshooting My Exertainment Bike
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January 05, 2013, 10:46:00 PM »
So I'm lost at what else to try to get my second Exertainment Bike running.
The problem is that one machine says it doesn't register any pedalling from the bike after starting the game up. Since I've got two of them I've been able to swap the bikes to see if that was the problem (both bikes work), swapped all the cables besides the power source (all cables work), I even swapped the PCBs that the bikes/SNES plug into and they both seem to be working fine.
Everything seems to work find on the one machine, but the same parts that work fine on that machine won't register my pedalling on the second one.
Anyone have any more ideas I can try?
Wiring Diagram:
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Re: Help Troubleshooting My Exertainment Bike
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January 05, 2013, 11:19:31 PM »
Sounds like the pedals may not be generating a signal for the SNES to receive. Try to trace back any current with a multimeter to find out where the current stops. I'd help out if I were nearby.
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Re: Help Troubleshooting My Exertainment Bike
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Quote from: Shadow Kisuragi on January 05, 2013, 11:19:31 PM
Sounds like the pedals may not be generating a signal for the SNES to receive. Try to trace back any current with a multimeter to find out where the current stops. I'd help out if I were nearby.
But the same bike and equipment can get a pedal signal to my second machine. That's what is baffling me. I don't understand
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Re: Help Troubleshooting My Exertainment Bike
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January 05, 2013, 11:59:14 PM »
Does the second bike register pedaling RPM and whatnot when the SNES isn't being used? In other words, does it work properly as an exercise bike? It sounds like the bike and SNES aren't communicating (for lack of a better word) for some reason.
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Re: Help Troubleshooting My Exertainment Bike
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January 06, 2013, 01:24:17 AM »
Quote from: Fleach on January 05, 2013, 11:59:14 PM
Does the second bike register pedaling RPM and whatnot when the SNES isn't being used? In other words, does it work properly as an exercise bike? It sounds like the bike and SNES aren't communicating (for lack of a better word) for some reason.
The controllers on the bike work with the SNES so it is communicating in some fashion. Just can't get it to recognize the pedals, which doesnt make sense to me because it works fine on the other kiosk.
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Re: Help Troubleshooting My Exertainment Bike
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January 06, 2013, 02:31:53 AM »
Can you describe or take pictures of how the thing is put together? It's hard for me to help troubleshoot with not much to go on.
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Quote from: Duke.Togo on January 06, 2013, 02:31:53 AM
Can you describe or take pictures of how the thing is put together? It's hard for me to help troubleshoot with not much to go on.
For sure, I can even post a scan of the wiring diagram. I'll get some eye candy up later today when I get home.
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Re: Help Troubleshooting My Exertainment Bike
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January 06, 2013, 09:46:20 AM »
Having 2 bikes i would assume would make things easier lol
You should have a working model to cross reference everything with.
Hopefully some fresh eyes can help you get it figured out unfortunately i have nothing but well wishes to offer.
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Re: Help Troubleshooting My Exertainment Bike
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January 06, 2013, 07:03:13 PM »
Quote from: Izret101 on January 06, 2013, 09:46:20 AM
Having 2 bikes i would assume would make things easier lol
You should have a working model to cross reference everything with.
Hopefully some fresh eyes can help you get it figured out unfortunately i have nothing but well wishes to offer.
Yeah I thought it would be a piece of cake having the two of them, but I'm really confused. It seems like everything works....... but it doesnt work!
First post updated with a scan and a pic of the wiring diagram. My wife took the camera to work with her so I won't be able to pop up some actual pics of the internal until tomorrow though.
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Re: Help Troubleshooting My Exertainment Bike
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January 06, 2013, 07:09:05 PM »
According to the guy at Life Fitness I talked to and the Troubleshooting manual I have the problem should lie in the part labelled PEM. But I've tested each cord and even the PEM board itself on the other machine and all the pieces work fine. Grrrrrr.
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Re: Help Troubleshooting My Exertainment Bike
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January 06, 2013, 07:14:46 PM »
I wonder if it uses a reluctor ring in conjunction with a hall effect switch to register pedal RPM. I would assume if it did the spacing of the two may be off.
Wish I could see it in person to see all the guts.
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Re: Help Troubleshooting My Exertainment Bike
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January 06, 2013, 07:23:07 PM »
Quote from: Razor Knuckles on January 06, 2013, 07:14:46 PM
I wonder if it uses a reluctor ring in conjunction with a hall effect switch to register pedal RPM. I would assume if it did the spacing of the two may be off.
Wish I could see it in person to see all the guts.
I'll try and take pics of EVERYTHING when I get my camera back. Any theories are welcomed at this point.
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Re: Help Troubleshooting My Exertainment Bike
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January 06, 2013, 08:07:45 PM »
Which of the numbered wires in the diagram is the one that goes to the device that measures the pedaling? How does that mechanism work?
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Re: Help Troubleshooting My Exertainment Bike
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January 07, 2013, 08:02:19 PM »
Updated with 2 new pics. Hopefully that helps the wiring diagram make more sense. The PCB shown there is where I'd assume the problem is. According to both the Troubleshooting manual and the guy I talked to at Life Fitness that is the part the converts the bike's signal into something the SNES can recognize. The grey cable is the one coming from the bike itself and the phone jack looking black one beside it is the one that plugs into the SNES controller port.
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Re: Help Troubleshooting My Exertainment Bike
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January 07, 2013, 08:21:05 PM »
So if you swap the board with the one in the working bike, I assume it works properly. I'd work backwards from there swapping out parts with the known good bike, one at a time. So swap the cable that goes to the bike next, and if it works, the next part down the line, etc.
If you'll be around later we can Skype and talk through some troubleshooting.
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