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I was happy to hear that Nintendo will have Achievements up and running for launch. They say they won't force it on developers/publishers...yeah right! :P

http://wiiudaily.com/2012/06/wii-u-achievements-confirmed-by-nintendo/

Awww man, now I HAVE to get one at launch. Yes I'm being serious.

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cool, now we just have to hope their online system will be easy enough for people to actually compare achievements. there were some nintendo games that had things kind of similar to achievements built in, they just weren't publicly available on a profile anywhere. like new super mario bros (DS and Wii) having the golden stars on your file to show that you've beaten the game, if you've done it without luigi assisting in the wii one (haven't played the ds one don't know if it has this), finding all the alternate routes etc.

i used to think achievements/trophies were stupid but they really do add some replayability to games that you otherwise might not have done a second (or third, or fourth) playthrough on.

I'd be all over that!

I agree with this

Uh oh, now I'm going to have to get really good at NSMBU.

I'll help you boost!

Nah, you won't be happy with the annual subscription fee for Nintendo LIVE ;)

They wouldnt dare!

Cool, but honestly i don't care about achievements.

Oh, certainly not. They've only had paid network services since the Famicom days...

I'll stick with friend-codes as long as its free

^ The future is here, embrace it cheapy ;D

My wife made me get a cell phone today and I feel so old because I cant make it do what I'm pretty sure its capable of. My much younger brother is coming over tomorrow help me figure it out. I really dont like taking the time to learn new things that dont overly interest me, let alone pay for them.

Great, now I am the only human being without a cell.

Oh fuck off Nintendo. You claim to not do fads then you turn around and do fads. Yes I will buy Wii U. But Achievements is the worst thing to happen this gen aside from DLC. What a real sense of achievement back int eday was beating tough games. Not a charm to say DING YOU TURNED ON THE CONSOLE!

Congrats for giving in to the ADD generation.

You know what makes great replay ability. Being fun. That's all games needed back in the day. If it's fun I play it again. Not a useless pointless charm that helps ADD moronic gamer feel a false sense of accomplishment. I don't need a charm that says I opened 100 chests in Darksiders. Who fucking cares? ooh a chest. Does it give me one for smashing a crate? Oh yippy as I pee my pants with glee like a retarded 12 year old. Makes games more fun then and make them more challenging like in the 90's where games punished you but it felt so fanfuckingtastic to beat it. And have those memories forever. No one is going to remember OOOH I GOT 30G for opening a crate!

I don't care either 8)

You're not alone ;D

I think acheivements is actually my favorite feature introduced this gen. When PSN went down and they gave everyone a free month trial after getting it back up I was treated to Sonic 2 and Streets of Rage as free downloads. I've played both games many times, but guess what? I enjoyed having the trophies added and they got me to explore both games (each of which I'd previously beaten more than a dozen times each) in ways that I had never done before. I love having an incentive (no matter how meaningless they are, which honestly most games from past generations promote anyway) to play my game differently.

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Do you have any idea what you are talking about? Get the final achievements/trophoes in Catherine and tell me thats not an achievement. Yes some are easy but there are many hard ones also.

Thats the only platinum trophy that I've attempted and then gave up on (at least for now). I think I'm 3 trophies short. Hard as hell.

I've found getting all of them VERY rewarding on games like Mirror's Edge or 3D Dot Game Heroes. I just like to think of them as a badge for doing a completionist style play of the game.

Achievements are just there as guidelines for things the developers want you to try. Some take it further than others, with ridiculous challenges, while others use them as time sinks to artificially increase replay value. They are an OPTIONAL thing to accomplish - no one's stopping you from playing games the way you've played them in the past. They're also not going anywhere, so either ignore them or embrace them. Nintendo has even said they're OPTIONAL for their games, so show your support by only purchasing games without achievements.

With that being said, there are few hardcore games being released because of the whole "accessibility" buzzword that's been making its rounds in the industry the past few years.

Can we reinstate Karma?


Achievements are a great addition to games.  Achievements have prompted me to play through games completely.  Normally, I stop playing games halfway through, but now I strive to complete Achievement/Trophy lists.  Yes, there are bad/ridiculous/stupid achievements, but they are not necessary for playing a game.

Wii have achievements for U!

It's the Wii U! ::)

Hopefully nintendo's own Achievements are for things that you don't obviously do in the game. (Like beat it) Thyey should follow Xenoblade and give you them for doing things you wouldn't want to do yet reward you in game at the same time. Then every one of nitendo's games could double as a mental game.

I just hope they aren't obnoxious and appear on screen every time you "achieve" something. Let me see achievements/trophies if I want to see them, don't force them down my throat. That's all I ask. I don't mind them if they are done in this way (is why I don't mind them on iOS)

On the 360 you can turn the notifications off.

i wonder if you can do that on ps3, i don't think so but seems like something i should look into lol. anyway i like the way Heavy Rain and Journey did them. Heavy Rain had them during the loading screens after you finished an area and journey left them until the very end of the game.

That's more like it, should be the default option. When did they add that ability?

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There is an option to turn off Notifications underneath Settings -> System Settings -> Notification Messages.

But the description underneath that says "Sets whether or not to notify when Friends are online or when a message has been received from a Friend."

I personally like hearing the "ding!" sound when I get a trophy.  It doesn't bother me to see the message pop up in the corner of the screen.

Not sure it has been around for a long time.

Why would it be the default option? Then no one would know the service was there, which would be counter-intuitive for Microsoft.

It's been there since the launch of the system. I turned off the Notifications during movies because I was tired of seeing friends sign in when watching a DVD.

http://www.destructoid.com/nintendo-wii-u-online-will-be-free-no-subscriptions-230360.phtml

I dont have to :P

Nintendo has horrible netcode and PlayStation has a ton of hackers, modders and griefers. There's nothing stopping them from coming back when it's free, now is there?

So does Live.

For all the complaints about Xbox Live fees, I have found it to be the most cohesive and best online experience among the systems. Anyone that bothers to check can grab 12-months for $35. I have no qualms paying for a good service, including from Nintendo or Sony.

For me though, with those so far you get what you pay for. Playstation + is a big step in the right direction, but with such cobbled online functionality in the PS3 that has been done piecemeal during its lifespan it just doesn't warrant my dollars. Having said that, I think that they have learned a lot of lessons from this round, and should be on solid footing for PS4.

With Nintendo, adding the ability to have achievements into the development tools was just a smart and easy move. They always take an interesting approach which makes me curious to see exactly how the Wii U will turn out. To me though Nintendo has always focused on living room multiplayer, and it is their strong suit. I won't be upset if the Wii U isn't up to snuff with the other two, because that isn't the experience I am looking for in it. That is what the next Xbox and PS4 are for, and I want Nintendo to give me something fresh.

I have had live for a few months and letting it expire in a couple days. It offers nothing. ooh Netflix. Wait I have that on y Wii PC and Roku and don't need to pay fora sub to watch paid subs. I never use this but when it comes to XBL. MS is being M$. XBL to me is as useful as tits on a boar

Metroid Prime 3 was the only game I ever played where Achievments meant anything. You could earn them like coins and spend them for artwork or music and in game items like bobble heads and such. If more games did that then I would be more open to them. At least then it actually feels rewarding. Other than that I can get rewarded without a charm. Phoenix Wright solving cases was so self rewarding and felt awesome to solve. But if it had charms that let me actually get more out of the came like currency then bring it.

I agree with this. Nintendo with it's friends codes is just plain stupid. I have been in Xbox Live parties with people using the chat function on the 360 while playing their PS3's because you cant talk top poeple playing a different game I think.

Offers nothing you might like offers nothing is a tad bit wrong.