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Here you can write about everything that annoys you about video games.

For me it would have to be majority of Xbox Live's players. Most of them are team killing griefers that cannot follow the simplest instructions. Example: In a game of Left 4 Dead on Expert, it was 3 human players and I and we had just gotten to the end of the first level (The hotel safehouse). Anyway, only one of us on our team has a pipe bomb to clear out all the zombies underneath us. So I tell him to throw it out in the middle of the horde. Simple instructions I think. Well instead he throws it in front of the window we are all standing in. Next since that wasn't enough just blowing up his team, he sets off the car alarm shuts all of the doors in the hotel and the safe house and leaves us 4 dead (I am so clever :P ).

I love the people playing Left 4 Dead on Expert that try to steamroll through the whole map like they're Charles Bronson. It doesn't work like that kids- you gotta work as a team.

Pet Peeve#1: Teabagging.
Pet Peeve#2: Trash talking and socially inappropriate speak.
 

"Old skool Nintendo" and "Sega" when refering to the NES and Mega Drive.

Little kids playing Halo. Ugh... It's not that they are bad or anything, it's just they shouldn't talk.

But my biggest pet peeve would have to be... playing Worms and someone girders themself in with 1 worm left then burns a tunnel so that he's impossible to kill.

Not really a pet peeve of mine but I was kind of annoyed that people at the flea market today treated me like I was an 8 year old. Everytime I was looking at PS1 games the seller told me: "Those are PS1 games, not PS2", with a look on his face like I'm too young to know what a PS1 is.

The strange thing is that almost the exact same thing happened to me with 3 different sellers. By the 3rd I wanted to say "Yeah, shut up, I know more about games than you do." but obviously, I didn't. :P

I hate when people refer to the NES and Genesis as the "original" Nintendo or Sega. The NES is somewhat excusable as its Nintendo's first real console in the US, but come on, Nintendo was around for almost 100 years before the NES. But they have no excuse for calling the Genesis the original Sega.

In their defense, the sellers are probably just tired of whiny parents or kids bringing back games and demanding refunds because they were too stupid to realize they weren't PS2 games. So, they just make sure everyone knows what they're buying.

Escort missions and timed objectives. Oh and I hate bad cameras too. I just got rid of Ninja Gaiden II partially for that reason. In this day and age a camera that shoves into the wall or hides enemies behind it is not acceptable.

Yeah, I guess you're right.

But still, the games say PlayStation without a "2" behind it + they're in square jewel cases. How obvious can it be? :P

Long story lines, or intro's.   One that comes to mind is "The sword of Mana" I tried to play this game a couple of different times, BUT holy crap I got so tired of the intro I didn't even want to play it anymore, or just didn't have the time to play anymore.  :)

How about the words "old school" in general?

There really isn't any one thing I don't like. I take everything as it comes. You never know when something that seemed like a crap idea may be done right.

Amen to that! I hate "old school" as well. I'd prefer the term "throwback", personally.

Games where the first thing they advertise on the box is "online play"

DRM that makes me doubt that years from now I'll be able to play a game I paid for (and as such, I don't buy those games).

This, totally this. Especially the timed objectives. Nothing puts me off a game faster than a twitch reflex timed event. Ugh!

Oh here's a good one. Downloadable content that should not be DC. A great example would be Fallout 3's 'updates'. Should have just had that as the level cap to begin with and so on. It's absolutely lazy of the developers/money grubbing.

What is DC?

Hmm.. I have a list:

1. Any game I get motion sickness from but want to play badly. All Katamari titles and most newer FPS fall into this category :(

2. Unsupervised children, racist pigs, ignorant assholes that start shit when they see my Canadian flag avatar, and people just looking for a date on Xbox Live. Wow I think that just coved a good 90% of the population...lol

3. All female clans and groups - I find them to be sexist. Any time I run into some members they always shoot me clan invites with long explainations of their rules. Most groups of this type fall more into a sorority category and not a clan category. Most also talk so much shit and suck so bad... Groups/clans like this are the reason chicks like me get harassed online :/

4. Games that lack storyline or have a story that just plain sucks.

5. Lack of good JRPGS for Xbox 360 and Wii.

6. Games that lack decent gameplay in favor of flashy graphics. I say watch the movie or play the game. Don't play the damn movie!

He means Downloadable content that should actually be Downloadable content (DC). A lot of content is either a money grab by denying gamers what should have been included in the game in the first place, poorly imagined, overpriced tidbits or they charge you to unlock content they included on the disc when you bought it so your paying $5-10 for an unlock code nothing more.

Okay, thanks for answering. :)

Yeah that's what I meant. I just find it ridiculous that companies do this crap.

 I edited my post now.

Going to a car boot sale, a place where people flog their worthless crap for almost no money, and being told "They go for this much on eBay." They may as well bring some Daum glass and say "It goes for £2,500 at a Bonhams auction." They may well do, but they're unlikely to get that at a car boot sale. If they want eBay prices, sell it on eBay then deal with postage and fees.

I think the worst was someone selling "An original Atari" with no power cable and peeling labels for £25.

My God, I run into that all the time.  Who the hell pays $10 for an Atari 2600 junky looking Combat cart?  No one in their right mind.  Another irritation I'm getting lately is the huge price increases I'm seeing at Goodwill and Salvation Army stores.  Five bucks for a loose Atari 2600 cart?  Twenty for a boxed SNES sports game that looks and smells like it was dropped in the toilet?  What the hell happened to the 50 cent prices from just a few years ago?  Even record albums are still 10 and 25 cents.

And yeah, escort missions suck, especially when the person/thing you are escorting runs as slow as a snail and usually right into the line of fire.

"Specialty" shops that don't necessarily specialize in video games, but sell them because of their trendy following. There was a shop here in Portland that Sara and I went to a couple of weeks ago. They had lots of interesting items - lots of classic action figures and memorabilia - in addition to a few video games. The prices were absurd: a complete Atari 7800 for $245, a complete 2600 for $185, an Atari Trackball controller for $85, and a small stack of complete NES games, none for less than $30. It's such a turn off for me to find things like this. It's the way a lot of the "hunting" has gone so far in Portland unfortunately. The city is almost annoyingly trendy.

And has like 3 hit points to their credit. :P

This kind of unrelated, but your post reminded me of it. I really hate when places like Goodwill refuse to drop the price on merchandise that does not sell. My Goodwill "sells" VHS tapes for $3 each, and they have an entire aisle of the damn things, stacked 2-3 rows deep. It's almost like Blockbuster dumped an entire store on them. But do they lower the price? Of course not. It's not like they paid anything for them, all they are is a waste of space. The thrift next door doesn't have thousands of them, but that's because they sell them for a more reasonable $1 each, you would think Goodwill would follow suit, but they don't.

It sounds like you guys are evolving towards prices that are sort of the "standard" over here. People over here always think they're sitting on a pile of gold. It's so annoying when you look at a PS1 game, ask they price, they say €10 or something like that. Then you look inside and see the manual's missing and the disk heavily scratched.
Or this guy that was asking €5 for a copy of GT2 with a broken jewel case, the manual and first disk missing. I wish I was telling a lie but I'm not. :-\

Anyway, it's a real shame, because prices over there were fantastic.

Couple Quickies
---People who have recently gotten into games because its "cool"
---Overhyped games
---The Seemingly millions of 12 y/o british kids (no offense to anyone here) that are on live at like 3 in the morning theyre time kicking my ass at every game im playing.....do parents not read the rating labels?!

I lol'ed so hard when I read that one. :laugh:

Sad thing, he's right!  Nothing like an 8 year old stomping a mud puddle in your ass....and then you crying like a 3 year old.  :'(

People who call themselves "hardcore" gamers.

People who consider themselves experts on gaming but when questioned about anything older then them or the first system they ever played pretend it either didnt exist or wasnt popular.

People who work at game stores, claim to know alot about games, yet only know about popular sports titles.  (close enough to above to almost be same group but not always)

RPGs where you save village/town/city/world from some stupid idiot monster/robot/evil organization/batsh$# crazy person/god and all you get is a hand shake and a slap on the back while being told job well done.  Yeah, I realize it's the end but when the huge epic battle is the end, it's always kinda anti-climatic.  RPGs have been around long enough, isnt it time they spice things up a bit?

D/C content.  I still dont see the point of it.  Sure, extra content sounds great when it's actualy extra content but I dont see many companies making D/C stuff so much as keys to unlock stuff you've already paid for.  I expect many companies will continue or follow as it's aparently quite profitable to half deliver on content and then nickle and dime the hell out of their customers for it.  Gamers should be ashamed for promoting this buisness practice.  Not all games do it, but too many do.

Im all for getting beaten but come on my parents still didnt like me playing doom/quake etc when I was a kid....but running into kindergarteners that have G.O.W. memorized is a little disturbing.
Forza 2 on the other hand I guess I just need to practice more

That's strange. In Britain, it's the seemingly millions of twelve year old American kids calling everyone a limey nigger faggot that annoys everyone.

 :laugh:

I've got a theory.

Seeing as these 12-year olds are up at 3AM in their time, us "older gamers" that game on "normal" moments, only see the 12-year olds of different continents because those on ours aren't gaming yet. :P

I've got quite a few that people have already mentioned that drive me nuts to and a couple new ones to add:

1. The Terms "Hardcore" or "Old School" - I wont even explain these ones

2. Specialty Shops/Game Store Employees - I get the worst service when I go into any gaming specialty shop weather it be locally owned or a chain store. The chain stores tend to have some decently priced games, but the locally owned ones just price gouge. I mean Bubble Bobble 2 with a torn label for $300 or F-Zero X for $400!?!?!?

3. Downloadable Content - Im a patient person and willing to wait for the sequel for my extra content. I cant justify buying something I cant physically own.

4. Online Multiplayer - Besides all the trash-talking that has been mentioned a few times I also dont understand the appeal of it. I mean I can completely understand playing online with people you actually know and then you can talk about it (or gloat) later when visiting with them, but why play with strangers online? Isnt that just like playing a computer opponent? Why is it neccessary?

5. Treated like an idiot when purchasing games - I've gotten some comments like Sirgin has in the past, but luckily I dont live in a very big city and most of the locals at least recognize me now and know that I'm not stupid when it comes to games. It still happens sometimes, but what I hate more than that is when they try to recommend games for me. If they know I'm into gaming wouldnt they assume I'm aware of most million seller games? I dont mind getting recommended games, but I have heard of Halo and no I dont care for it.

6. People Trying to "relate" through games - This one bugs me the most and unfortanutely probably also makes me look like a huge ass 90% of the time. I dont often bring up my love for games when meeting people, but occasionally it becomes the subject (they heard it through someone else normally). They ask me if I've played their favorite games and what I thought of them or tell me I'm not a "real/Hardcore" gamer because I dont own ______. I love talking games, but only with people that share similar gaming interests not just an interest in games.

Anyone who thinks they or their games shit gold. During the summer when I went to garage sales I saw some things I really wanted to get but the prices were crazy. Nobody is going to pay $25 for a genesis Madden game. Also I hate it when people consider the Atari 2600 to be the first video game console.

1. The lack of offline multiplayer games. So many games are geared towards online multiplayer that 4-player split screen with system link is getting a lot less utilized. Disappointing.

2. The lack of offline multiplayer games to also include level editors. It's a blast to create something new and share it with friends when you get together to play.

When people call the Sega Genesis just a "Sega" and when people refer to the NES as the regular nintendo, original nintendo, or just nintendo. There's many more pet peeves that I can name but I'm at school right now so I'll save them for after class. :P

I trained my cousin to stop calling it Sega and to call it Genesis and it worked lol. Now none of my cousins call it the Sega lol. They call it the Genesis thank god. It was getting on my nerves.

I so agree with you on this one.

Online gaming is nice, but it comes at a serious price. Not only do most developers not care anymore for offline multiplayer; often games that are simply not ready for release get released anyway. Things can always "get patched up later", so it's better to release yesterday than today, right? This is one of my biggest dissapointment with today's gen, and makes me feel nostalgic about last gen, even though I don't own a next-gen console. :(

Developers simply expect you to have your console hooked up to the internet, yet many people don't. Can you imagine the dramas that take place when people with offline consoles buy games that are still very buggy, but are unable to update them?

And thirdly, even if you have your consoles hooked up the the internet and can update all your games, I still don't like the updating/DC. I used to love consoles because they were the hassle-free no-nonsense gaming experience unlike the PC. But now with all the downloading/updating bullshit, even a console gamer runs into the "Oh noes! No more space on my HD!" or "I better update to the next firmware to get rid of the bugs in the last one" problems that used to be things only PC gamers had to worry about.

Haha I know what you mean! But still there are a few awesome RPG endings recently. My favorite off the top of my head involves the main character being impaled after the battle.

There are exceptions to the rule.  FF6, FF10, Great Greed, and Lufia were all RPGs with endings I enjoyed.  Sure, you saved the world and all that but the endings had a twist.  I know there are more though but the problem is, they are still few and far between.

I fairly recently (last year) bought Tony Hawk's Underground 2 for the PS2, and the employee of the store asked me if I understood what I had to do in the game. FFS, I know I'm nearly 40, but I do remember skating, and it's only a bloody videogame! Damn!

Couldnt agree more.....sure online is great, but nothing can compare to the trash talk that insues when you and 3 buddies are all huddled around the same screen playing Q3:A (or goldeneye etc).

I thought of another biggie in my book - the whole MLG scene and all of the so-called "pro" gamers. I hate how the term "pro" is just thrown around these days. As far as I'm concerned, you aren't a professional anything unless you can afford to live off of your income. Too many kiddies and moronic adults run around calling themselves "pro gamers" these days. Especially with FPS titles.

Thank you.

Glitched achievments

Online achievements

I agree with glitched achievements.

You probably need to clarify what you mean by Online, though, because if there wasn't online availability I wouldn't get many of the multiplayer achievements out there.

I don't like online achievements, either. I don't have Gold membership and I don't like playing against random people. That means I can't get a lot of achievements, and in games like Gears of War the online achievements make up about half of them.

Completely agree.


As far as i know i am the only pro gamer any where ever.

Online only ones. Like xxxx amount of kills, types of kills and play xx amount of type game. Halo 3 if full of them and not easily boostable. Now the multiplayer ones in Halo 3 like beating the campaign are fine.

I personally hate when the Game Boy Advance is called Advanced.  I don't really know why, it just pisses me off sometimes.

I'd like to add another one I think bothers me greatly.  When people justify their opinions on games or systems thru claiming to own the other systems in the current generation.  Often times I see people say the wii, 360, or ps3 is great or sucks and always add that they have the ps3, wii, or 360 (or all three) as if it somehow makes their opinion more valid and not that of a fan boy.  They forget, the hardware isnt what makes the hardware shine but the software.  It's all too easy to own all 6 of the current systems getting support, but it's near imposible to support them with all the great software released for them.  I guess the point is, if people like something, they shouldnt have to claim to have X amount of current gen systems to justify liking some game that was or wasnt on multiple systems.  They should just appreciate what they got and be happy with it reguardless if it impress' some random stranger on the internet.

^ So true! There's a lot of people on GameTrailers, making comments on every video like that. It's quite annoying. >:(

I was very pro Sega, and always saw their systems as the better systems. But would still play a lot of Nintendo games on friends systems. The console war was actually really fun back then, and just meant more games to play when you had friends with the other system. It also made your system a lot more popular when Nintendo censored all the blood out of MK. ;)

Another addition - Getting screwed out of great RPGs because I live in NA. I'm very thankful for the wonderful folks putting out translation patches. Soma Bringer, Tales of Innocence, and Ragnarok DS - need I say more?

hhhmmmm tings not liked in games,

coin op games that alway have a bit in so you will definatly die or loose come much energy/time you wont be playing much longer.

minecarts, just why?

RPG's whre you can only get so far then have to waste ages "building up" your character/party

badley thought out controls

guns that take too long to reload, i know it adds to the wol game presentation and all that but sometime you can spend so long reloading you get killed, a specific on this is Bioshock

Ha, yes! Except replace 'RPGs' with 'games' and 'NA' with Europe

Lol, another one that is so true.

Now, I'm not saying NA gets every game out there but Europe really got it worse. There are a ton of Japanese games that make it to NA, yet Europe seems to be one bridge too far. I really don't get it. Why release Chrono Trigger in NA but not in Europe? Why, damn it! It doesn't make any sense at all. If you're going to translate it to English for NA, why not bring it out in Europe as well? All you need to do is write a manual with most European languages in, that's it, the game stays in English anyway. :(

I feel the same way about Rally games in North America. Instead of games like WRCs 2 to 5, Colin McRae 2005 Plus, we get NASCAR. Sorry folks, but going around in circles left turning for hours just doesn't boil the blood like a Scandinavian flick on a narrow dirt trail or ice at high speeds. :)

My pet peeve: achievement boosters

I didn't know you guys don't get all the Rally games, that sucks too.

You're right about NASCAR and the likes, it's just plain dumb. I've got this game called Indycar 2005 (it was free) and it's the most boring racing game I've ever played. :P

At least Indycar racing has both right and left turns for variety. :laugh:

The catch is, there's a number of games that both Japan and Europe get that we either dont get at all or only get after the game has been butcherd to death.  Beatmania comes to mind.  A number of RPGs also.  Yeah, the number of games that we get that you dont come to mind but you do get a surprisingly large number of games we dont.  Besides, you got CT on the DS now.  Better late then never I'd guess.

Pet Peeve: Spawn camping.

GTA lovers, I don't understand why people think GTA IV is an epic title, it's just GTA 3 with a graphic update, more vehicles and people to kill. Not to forget it's over offensive  :grrr:

Pretty much.

And that's why GTA IV was great, because GTA 3 was great.

GTA IV is awesome people, and not liking it is not a real peev  :nono:

My peev is when I join a live game like L4D only to be booted out. There are settings for public or friends only game  but aren't being utilized.
Also, the graphical glitches in L4D are really getting to me. It's cool to see zombie faces on walls and dog food bags on doors  etc but when i get puked on by a boomer it's total blindness until the vomit wears off COMPLETELY.  >:(

Eh, GTA 3 was fun for a few days. So not surprisingly I don't like the same game now even with its face lift.

Yeah, the graphical glitches to Left for Dead are a real pain. It is also something we weren't aware of until we actually played the game as it only seem to get praise.

Same.

Well a massive pet peeve of mine is when sequels have different actors/voice actors. It's why I've never touched a Telltale Games title. Mind you that isn't just for games but movies/cartoons... anything.

My pet peeve?  And I have to say that agree with the spike on prices with classic gaming gear.  It's reached a ridiculous level.  I agree that NA doesn't always get games that would push a game system...the Saturn and Dreamcast quickly come to mind with that.  I also agree that gamers who have the latest and greatest are ignoring those that paved the way for what we have now.  Whether they "sucked" or not they still made it possible for the consoles and games we have now.

But my number one pet peeve is probably a personal one, and I'm probably going to be starting a war, but the negative reviews the 5200 has received.  I'm not saying it didn't have its fair share of problems and that Atari didn't make a mistake with it.  It's just that most of the reviews I've found compare it to a modern day console or a system that was released after it.  No, it wasn't backwards compatible with the 2600 games...it didn't need to be...there were, and still are, 2600s for that.  And, granted, the standard controller was not the best made but it did offer full analog controls.  My system has been with me for 30 years and still works.  It still has one controller still working that came with the system...the second controller died when I was a kid; it got sat on by a family friend (some friend, eh?).  My 360?  Dead after 6 years and after performing at least two rebuilds.  I know not all 5200s found are still in working condition, at least not 100%, but for what it was I think it was impressive for the time.  Then again, just like any other console, you either like it or you don't.  Just my opinion. 

^ People these days have the advantage of hind sight. No one had ever done a switch to a "next-gen" console at that time, so Atari had to try and invent a way. I believe if Nolan had still been in charge, it would have been much more successful and well designed. I agree, it isn't a bad system and I personally enjoy it more than the 7800.

OK, now for my pet peeve which is short and sweet. UN. SKIPPABLE. CUT. SCENES. Seriously people? 2012 and you STILL can't figure this one out?

Stupid escort mission's, where the AI is dumb as hell and run right into gunfire.

I hate when developers don't add in the ability to customize options.  Games that don't have customizable control schemes, the ability to pause and save during cutscenes, or the ability to turn (annoying) voice acting off seem like things that would be quite easy to implement and make games much more user friendly.

^ This. Scarface: The World is Yours, I'm thinking of you!

Phone games/Facebook games

DLC

Achievements

People who support EA/Activision,Quantic Dreams

FPS popularity.

People who claim to love a certain genre but ignore great ones despite knowing about it  in that genre because it's not a hyped AAA  budget mediocre game  from company X. They rather support hype than companies that put out great games but may not be as well known.

Omikron: The Nomad Soul was good though.

Fahrenheit was great!

Health and Warning Screens
Platformers where you need to jump with precision but you control like soap.

Not that I disagree but you might find this interesting. The Retro Gaming Roundup podcast this month had an editorial on Facebook games. Scott, one of the hosts who seems to be as retro as they get, makes a good argument in favor of at least one Fb game. I recommend the entire podcast but the editorial is the first part.

Here is the link to RoundUp #46 (the current one at this time):
http://www.retrogamingroundup.com/shownotes/current/current_roundup.htm

Sonic Heroes... I have nightmares about it still.

I could write a million of these:

-Mobs that drop inappropriate loot (animals dropping weapons, equipment or currency)
-Mobs that don't aggress each other when they should, or me when I'm standing right next to them
-Mobs spawning within my line of sight
-Handicapping as a means to set difficulty level (Sid Meier does this)
-Binding items to a character so they can't be reused by another
-Questing, I want to suffocate quests with sand from my sandbox (random encounters and simulation instead)
-NPCs that stand around 24/7, they never move or sleep
-Auction houses that magically ship your product across the world (simulate economy and logistics damn it!)
-Radars or maps showing where all the enemies are
-No nudity, the animals don't wear clothes, why do I have to?

One of the few games I bought my PS3 for was Heavy Rain and I love it!

You must really hate the world right now. Also, apparently, I personify everything you hate:

I'm a big supporter of the Windows Phone 7 platform in providing a competent competitor to the other phones, including having a decent line of Xbox LIVE-enabled games. I'm also a Software Engineer at EA, and in the past have worked to implement DLC and Achievements for some of our titles, as well as being somewhat of an achievement whore. I also mostly play FPS games.

...we're not all bad, you know?  :'(

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There's one major pet peeve I have with most of the gaming community, as a whole:
Jumping on the bandwagon when it doesn't even affect you.

How many people complaining about Mass Effect 3's ending have actually played through all 3 games to have the ending affect them? How many have actually played ME3 period?

How about how many people complain about the nickle and diming about DLC? If it's such a problem, then why still spend the $10 on something you don't feel is worth it?

Someone smack some sense into the Entitlement Generation, please. Complaining and boycotting is fine, but sending a mixed message won't get anything accomplished.

Vote "Entitlement Generation" for next year's April Fools!


You're right though. I remember a while back there was a huge outcry by the PC gaming community because Call of Duty Modern Warfare (...2?) didn't include dedicated servers. Everyone was going to boycott the game. Then when the game came out, it was the #1 played game on Steam for like a month. ::)

My main gaming pet peeve is people who will boldly state, "XXXX is not a real videogame," simply for the reason they don't like the game/series/genre/platform.

Also I get easily annoyed by the en masse bandwagon-jumping that tends to happen after a gaming "journalist" either writes an editorial or spouts off on a podcast regarding a subject.  Remember how cool FFVII was, then how much it was overrated, then how horrible it was?

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Whahahaha! ;D

Such a dark time.  That day I was embarrassed to be called a PC gamer.  I think I went around that time telling people I enjoyed Linux games for cripes sake.

To be honest there's hardly anything on PC nowadays that you can't play on consoles. Of course you get much, much better graphics (with an up to date rig) and mods for some games (Skyrim). But it's easy to see why PC gaming is in decline.

This.  Capcom will stop making these ridiculous costume DLC packs if people had the sense to stop buying them.

Nothing's stopping you from NOT purchasing them, so why let that bother you?. Perhaps the energy could be put elsewhere, but people enjoy having customization options. It's also a simple cash grab that all companies involve themselves with.

That's exactly why I don't buy them.  I won't tell anyone how to spend their money, but I'd like to be able to switch costumes without shelling out even more money.  Oh well, playing with one or two costumes doesn't really bother me.

Except on Batman: Arkham City.  I want to play as the Batman from Batman Beyond. :(

If you look at it primarily from a NPD point of view then yes, PC gaming is in decline.  However, I prefer to think of PC gaming not as a platform in decline, but as a platform in a intermittent state of evolution (in regards to gaming) with short periods of identity struggle (primarily fueled by "graphics whores").  Sure, it has the multiplatform games that are on both the 360 and PS3, but it also has quite a bit of content that makes it completely unique.  Games such as the X series, the Stalker games, Kerbal Space Program, Minecraft, Wasteland 2, and Shadowrun (the new Kickstarter effort) are just a few drops in the proverbial bucket of great content (most of which doesn't require an up to date rig).

To me this is a minor point of contention, but one I feel the need to point out.  I hate for people to walk around with opinions based on bad or false data.  Granted, this is all completely irrelevant if you need games that have the best and most up to date graphics.

Oh, totally. Don't get me wrong. I'm not against the PC at all, in fact I'm one of the few here that regularly plays on PC. Despite my old rig, I keep up to date with PC gaming and hardware, too (I have a self built PC).

Easily one of the worst games ever made. Seriously.
Not just because I hate but as it's really just a horribly made game made by a mronic self indulgent douchebag.


@Shadow my best friend works at R* NYC.

don't forget most RTS (Age of Empires series, Starcraft 1/2), turn based games (Civilization), and MMOs (WoW, Rift). also FPS games in general control better on pc, even if they're essentially the same as their console versions.

That is true. I forgot about RTS games! (Even though there don't seem to be that many of them anymore lately, aside from Stracraft II) RTS games are great, and absolutely need the mouse & keyboard. The fast RTS games atleast. FPS games as well. I occasionally play Quake Live, which would be impossible to play without a mouse. :)

I dont like when people call the NES "NEZZ" it just sounds ridiculous. same geos for SNEZZ.. Dont like when people call the Jaguar JAGOOAR. I dont like how everyone gushes over zelda games, i think they are ok but really have never been my favorite games, I think they are too difficult and long and confusing and get annoying. For instance I much prefer Mario 64 to Ocarina.. I dont like when I see people treat gaming stuff poorly, like in videos if they manhandle the system roughly like james nintendo nerd etc. i hate games with 1 hit deaths, so stupid. i hate fighting games with insanely cheap ai. i mean mortal kombats are pretty fun but the insane difficult cheap ai kinda ruins it for me. i hate overly difficult games in general. besides the zelda games, thats why i think nintendo has been so popular cus their games usually arent too hard and are beatable even by children. i hate when people make youtube videos about classic games or systems they know little to nothing about but talk like they know everything... for instance giving reviews on a system they know little about.

Well I say good sir it appears as if you lack a grasp of proper and true English. Mayhaps you need to be reacquainted with the differences in accent and dialect and realize that British English is in fact the only true form of English. All other forms are asinine, childish, and frankly quite absurd, spoken in drivel by undereducated and arrogant barbarians.

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i take it your are joking, but just incase, atari and jaguar are american and the Jaguar animal is native to the americas. so JAGWAR IT IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jag OO ar just sounds stupid. there is no such thing as proper english anymore seeing as everyone in the world speak it just about in all different ways. never said jagooar wasnt proper it just sounds stupid.

I pronounce it as "Jag you ah" or sometimes "Jag you arr".

Ya I guess you Brits would pronounce it like that i also notice you brits are always calling the NES and SNES NEZZ AND SNEZZ lol i have a lot of pet peeves related to brits ;)

but seeing as atari is from california and everyone involved has always called it JAGWAR its safe to say thats the proper way to call the Jaguar SYSTEM. ;) JAGWAR, california or usa pronunciation ;)

JAG WAHR. jag w are

I'll agree with the NEZZ and SNEZZ. It's an abbreviation, and should be said N-E-S and S-N-E-S. I also accept Nintendo and Super Nintendo.

My wife said Ness the other day and I've never heard her try to talk classic nintendo with me so it made me laugh out loud it sounded so weird.

i've used ness before, but most of the time i pronounce each letter separately like duke said, N-E-S. at least ness makes a little more sense than nezz, s doesn't make a zzz sound

People pronouncing N.E.S. as "NESS" has been one of my pet peeves for a very long time.  It isn't the Ness, it is the Nintendo Entertainment System, therefore N.E.S.

ya even though i've used it i find it annoying too...like i said most of the time it's "the original nintendo" or N.E.S., i've probably called it ness less than 5 times :P. at least i've never called the snes anything other than super nintendo or S.N.E.S.

New games released for long dead systems.

Thats a new one. I'm very curious to know why thats a pet peeve for you?

Maybe he doesn't like having to buy a new NES/Genesis/... game just to keep it a complete collection?

Correct

With that said I dont consider them as part of the library. My Sega Genesis collection is done. I have all the retail releases so I am good.

Graphic whores. PC gamers usually come to mind but I hear console gamers as well talk about how some game is great simply because it looks so real. Don't get me wrong I like good looking games but I just never felt graphics are what makes a game great, I always felt graphics simply complement a game not make the game.

Also I wish people would stop suggesting that I buy the latest COD games and that apparently every game I own is not as good as COD. I don't care about COD (Or first person shooters) much anymore and don't play online shooters anymore as the people playing those games are either too serious, rude, or don't even play at all. Why even play the game if you're not even gonna play it. There will usually be 8 people on my team and only 3 of them are actually playing while the other people simply put their controller down and hope the people playing win for them so their stats go up for doing nothing. If I wanted to play a good shooter game I'd play Half-Life or something more geared toward single player.

I can't remember a time when i could walk into a gamestop and not have the cashier ask me if i wanted to preorder a CoD game

I can't remember the last time I walked into a Gamestop.

I actually go to EB Games fairly often. Mostly for lack of options up here. Its not always a bad experience though. The new stickers they have peel off like a dream, no goo gone required. Usually leave with one game for $5 or so. After winning the King of Fighters XIII release tournament the guys at one store have stopped asking me about their stupid add-ons. Some sort of gamer cred respect or something.

I was in yesterday to grab a game for the UDraw tablet they had on sale for 10$s.
It is funny because i go in there every couple of months and always end up seeing the same guy. Since he was the one i dealt with when they kept giving me busted games he thinks i shop there all the time and says stuff like "I'm sure the other guys ask you all the time but do you want to get the warranty?" Or "do you want to preorder X game"

i think i've only been asked about pre-ordering a specific game once or twice, usually they say "is there anything you'd like to pre-order?"

Even though I am a hardcore PC gamer, I will completely agree with you.  Although the many of my PC gamer friends have moved on from that sort of childish behavior (oh course the game looks better, you have a $500 VC in it!!), you will occasionally get some dork that will go on-and-on about their high FPS with 16xAA...

As odd as it sounds, I haven't been asked to preorder anything from GS in a couple years.  Granted, I only go in three or four times a year, but it just doesn't happen aymore.

Thanks bombatomba for you understanding. I'm pretty light when it comes to PC gaming and my setup is a little outdated but I loved to hear your opinion from a hardcore PC gamer. I honestly grew up on PC gaming but the crazy prices to keep a PC up to date and the lackluster release of PC games drew me away quite a bit. Too many people illegally download PC games nowadays and ruined the PC market.

As far as the trying to force me to get CoD thing goes I really meant to say my friends and CO-Workers are trying to force me to buy it not retail stores. Still my friends annoy me at times because they don't know what a good game is like IMO. But I honestly don't disagree with them because if thats what floats their boat and makes them happy then all power to them. I don't hate on others because they like something, I just don't like when they try to shove something I don't care about down my throat.   

Game series that are so embarrassed of themselves they start using cliché subtitles instead of numbering the games as they should.

There are so many examples of this, it seems like it's becoming the norm. Especially as publishers bet all their money on yearly sequels and rarely on new IP. It really seems like they're ashamed how they're rehashing the same tired game year after year that they don't dare number them. Just switch the settings and characters around, draw a random word from the magic-cliché-subtitle-words-basket and presto! Game finished.

The average series nowadays usually looks like this:

Blahblah
Blahblah 2
Blahblah 3: Rebirth
Blahblah: Redemption
Blahblah: Evolution
Blahblah 4: The Awakening
Redemption 2: Future
Blahblah: A New Era
The Blahblah

In 10 years time how is anyone ever going to remember in which order these games were released? Especially as they're mostly released at a rate of one game a year, which means the majority of them will be on the same console and therefor look almost identical.

What's wrong with classic numbering? I don't mind that Final Fantasy 13 is called Final Fantasy 13 (granted, using roman numbering). Atleast I know Final Fantasy 12 came out earlier and Final Fantasy 6 a lot earlier. Where as nonsense words like "redemption" say absolutely nothing. Also, even if I couldn't count, I'd probably see from the graphics or the system name on the box that 9 or 10 is a much older game than 13. On the other hand modern sequels are pushed out so fast, they're all on the same system and all look alike.

Then there's the numbering the subtitles/sub series as if they're whole new series. Or mixing numbered and non-numbered sequels up, to keep the numbering down to small single digits. Or better yet using the original title again as if the previous 6 games in the series don't exist. Movie series do this, too.

Even though I don't play a lot of sports games, I admire how they aren't afraid to be consistent and just number the damn sequels. I know it's because they want to indicate what year they were relevant in, but that effectively works as a proper numbering scheme, which is great.

so true.

Oh? Like this?

The Fast and the Furious (2001)
2 Fast 2 Furious (2003)
The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift (2006)
Fast & Furious (2009)
Fast Five (2011)
Fast & Furious 6 (2013)
Fast & Furious 7 (2015)

Yes, there are many examples to be found, both in movies and games. Why are you surprised?

I like when they add a subtitle to something that already has a subtitle. Castlevania: Lords of Shadow - Mirror of Fate made me laugh when I heard it.

Microsoft for the past 4 years trying to turn E3 into XBOXCABLEKINECTWARGARBLEWABGLESPNHULUERBLE

EA can suck it. I download a demo and it wants me to agree to a shit load of things then make an account with some stupid ass thing called origin. I just want to play the demo you assholes. Thanks for reminding me why I never support you EA

I hate people who think they are hardcore and only play CoD and other generic shooters. And then they have the balls to trash every other francise...these people are ruining the gaming industry.

To be fair, I think this is mostly a marketing problem.  There are certain franchises like the Final Fantasy series that have the "Main game" and then the "spinoffs" like Crystal Chronicles and the DS titles like Revanant Wings.  I don't mind the naming structure they have adopted because they mix the numbered entries and the spin offs fairly well.  Imagine the same thing with Castlevania, Contra, Mega Man, or Street Fighter.  I think that if more companies numbered every single game in the franchise, it could end up being way worse than it is now.  What if instead of being called Castlevania Lords of Shadow 2, the new game was called Castlevania 37?

There needs to be a bit of a balance so the numbering doesn't get ridiculous.  I do see your point, though, and I do think that the subtitles aren't the most elegant way to address the problem.

It's also weird when a company numbers a game that hasn't EVER had numbers in the title like Nintendo did with Mario Kart 7.

in today's era of google and so many gaming websites on the internet i don't really think it's that much of a problem anymore. if anyone isn't sure what order to play games in they can look it up and find out pretty quickly for most series. the only time it becomes an issue is with a messed up series like final fantasy.

in most cases the subtitles on games have some relevance to the title, generic subtitles don't seem to be as common as they are in movies. i don't mind subtitles if it makes sense for the story or game, and in most cases i prefer them to just a number. a number is simpler but it's also less creative.

I very much agree with the op Xbox live was fantastic when it first came out it was mainly filled with adults I think because in 2002 broadband will still expensive and there wasn't a need for it unless you were going to be doing a lot of gaming. Broadband wasn't really needed at the time for web surfing. It wasn't very often I ever heard a kid online. I also think it partly was a generational thing back in 2002 the 20 - 30 year olds online were born in the 70's to early 80's and they never grew up with the Internet like kids today do. I notice the kids of this era have a lack of social skills I thnk it has to do with growing up online. That would be cool if you could play with people your age online...

^I am sick of having a kid who can't even drive a car or go to highschool yet, calling me an asshole....THERE NEEDS TO BE AGE BRACKETS ON LIVE, I DONT WANT TO PLAY WITH CHILDREN...I WANT TO PLAY WITH OTHER GROWNUPS....I want to play with people who dont think Titanic is just the size of an object.

I love this thread.  I haven't been back in a couple of months and reading the newer posts leaves me laughing.  Seriously, I know it's TMI, but a little pee came out.  Good thing I didn't go commando today.


And that is why I hope the Japanese will never stop making games


MS does that with some games on Steam.  Very annoying.


Age brackets, rofl.  If they did that I might pay for XB Gold, but then again I might not.

It took a good three years but I finally have another gripe. Games that require you to be online to play SINGLE PLAYER. I'm not sure if this was a problem pre-Diablo 3 because I have been out of the loop but damn! I should also add weekly maintenance for a SINGLE PLAYER game. I think I've only played twice multiplayer, both times with friends. I usually just play by myself and want to be left the hell alone. While I'm at it I'll add nerfing a game because the general population (Entitled Generation) wants to beat the game and get every achievement on day one.

I believe Ubisoft can proud themselves to be the pioneers in "always-on" Internet-required DRM. There was a major outlash of PC gamers against it, but they could still be doing it.

As of this moment the PS3, for mine just gave me the flashing red light of death... for the third time since I've owned it...

I can proudly say that I do will not play any game that requires "always on" status save an MMO.  That paranoid "treat everyone like a thief" attitude makes me sick.

I agree. Not only is it unkind towards customers, but it actually promotes piracy. As a pirated version won't require the always-on DRM, all you end up doing is punishing honest customers.

It's not that different from regular DVD's having a ton of unskippable ads and warnings, yet the rips start playing the movie right away.

Digging a big hate of mine from the archives of my mind here. Getting disconnected while playing Phantasy Star Online. Anytime anyone called the home phone it happened.... Glad technology has come a long way since the 56k modem era.

Enough friends and relatives finally complained to my parents back in those days that they could never get through on the phone that I got banned from Diablo on our PC. Good times!

Anytime someone would call while I was playing Ultima Online, Team Fortress Classic, and later Phantasy Star Online, the game's screen would freeze and the call would come through.  Since I was married it didn't matter (it was usually my wife), but when I finally managed to log back in I would inevitably be DEAD.  It sucked most in UO, especially since there was a good chance some DB had looted my corpse.  Grrr.

Im not a fan of the bounce back when you get hurt. Hlaf the time it spells death in some other form.

Definitely something you need to learn to deal with if you want to beat many NES games. Its pretty harsh on a few titles for sure though.

It always used to bother me when your character takes damage or dies just because they touched the enemy.  Like your guy is extremely allergic to everything and goes into anaphylactic shock the instant he brushes up against a ninja or whatever.

Another thing is when you are the one tasked with saving the world, or a town, against ultimate doom, yet you are still required to buy your own weapons and supplies, often from the people you are trying to save.  First of all, what are you saving those supplies for should I fail without them? Second you want me to save your little village or whatever AND make a profit off of it?  Sometimes I'd like to let the zombies just win.

I also dont like it when your character shows up to save to world but they dont bother to bring anything with them, instead relying on whatever they finds along the way.  Like if M said to James Bond, "You know, normally Q would make you a bunch of gadgets and stuff, but this time we thought it would be more interesting if you just kinda winged it."  Why do video game characters have to have such poor planning?

lol casino royale

Love this observation.  I never really thought about it, but that's a great point.  "Rambo, we need you to save the POW's.  What, weapons?  Can't you just use whatever you come across, like in the first movie?"  "Wait, we'll give you a knife.  Cool?"

Damn I wish I could fit that in my sig...lmfao

Personally I always wondered how the hell monsters always seem to have more gold and better gear than dead adventurers you loot. Sure monsters may pick up some gold and eat it but armor? Weapons? I'd love to know how they fit that into their stomachs when they're 1/10th the size of the item(s) in question.

I have thought about this for years.

In regards to game names, I detest how publishers re-use names.

Some examples:
Ninja Gaiden
Sim City
Mortal Kombat