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Title: Handheld Experts Needed
Post by: Marriott_Guy on January 31, 2009, 03:33:02 PM
Hello all.

Well, I have finally committed to start collecting handheld systems.  I am focusing on removable media hardware (rather than dedicated units like Mattel Electronics Baseball).  As most of you know, consoles are my forte' - the handheld arena is pretty foriegn territory for me and I have not spent any time investigating.  Hence, I turn to RFG for some insight.

I have 'targeted' the following systems.  I picked up a few today and have designated them accordingly (along with the price paid).  Let me know if I am missing any big hitters on this list and what I should expect to pay for each.  Tell me if I got taken to the cleaners as well :(.  I am only collecting CIB\NIB systems, so please take this into account.  The alphabetically listed systems:

Atari Lynx I \ II
Bandai SwanCrystal \ Wonderswan (DONE - $25) \ Wonderswan Color (DONE - $49)
Bit Corp Gamate (thanks Izret101!)
Cybiko Classic \ Xtreme
EPOCH Game Pocket Computer (thanks Barracuda!)
Ez MINI
Game Axe (thanks Funk_Buddy!)
Game Mate
Game Tronic (thanks Funk_Buddy!)
Game Theory Admiral (thanks Funk_Buddy!)
Gamepark 32 \ GP2X \ XGP
Hartung Game Master (thanks Funk_Buddy!)
Milton Bradley Microvision
Mega Duck \ Cougar Boy
NEC TurboExpress
Neo Geo Pocket \ Pocket Color
Nintendo DS \ DS Lite \ DSi
Nintendo Game Boy \ GB Advance \ GB Advance SP \ GB Color \ GB Micro \ GB Light \ GB Pocket (thanks Tan!)
Nintendo Pokemon Mini
Nokia N-Gage \ N-Gage QD
OpenPandora Pandora
Sega Game Gear
Sega Nomad
Sony Playblock
Sony PocketStation (DONE - $35)
Sony PSP \ PSP 3000 \ PSP Slim & Lite
Tapwave Zodiac
Tiger Game.com
Tiger Gizmondo
Tiger R-Zone Pocket Gear \ Head Gear \ Super Screen (thanks Tan!)
TimeTop GameKing I \ II (DONE \ DONE)
Watara Supervision (thanks blcklblskt!)

Thanks in advance for all of your help!


Title: Re: Handheld Experts Needed
Post by: blcklblskt on January 31, 2009, 03:40:50 PM
One handheld you are missing is the Watara Supervision.  I have no clue what a good price on this would be, they're rarely on ebay.


Title: Re: Handheld Experts Needed
Post by: Tan on January 31, 2009, 08:53:39 PM
Entex Adventure Vision
Nintendo Game Boy Light
Nintendo Game Boy Pocket
Nintendo Virtual Boy
Romtec Colorvision
Tiger R-Zone (Pocket Gear, Headgear & Super Screen)
 
:)


Title: Re: Handheld Experts Needed
Post by: Marriott_Guy on February 01, 2009, 12:34:43 PM
Thanks for the help guys - much appreciated!

Tan - I kind of include the Entex AV, Romtec Colervision and the VB as consoles, though if you ask 100 people half would probably disagree with me  :)


Title: Re: Handheld Experts Needed
Post by: logical123 on February 01, 2009, 01:04:45 PM
Sega Game Gear Blue Version (Sega Sports)
If you are a variant idiot like me, then there are tons of Game Boy/GBC/GBA/GBASP variants, etc, along with NGP and NGPC. :P

EDIT:

If you need full variant lists, I think I have some laying around. I'll post 'em here in a little bit.


Title: Re: Handheld Experts Needed
Post by: Marriott_Guy on February 01, 2009, 02:55:14 PM
Hey logical.

I would love the entire variant list - thanks!  I do not intend (at this time) to go down that road (get all variants) - just getting the first run systems in their original packaging for now.

Terry


Title: Re: Handheld Experts Needed
Post by: Tan on February 01, 2009, 02:58:32 PM
Thanks for the help guys - much appreciated!

Tan - I kind of include the Entex AV, Romtec Colervision and the VB as consoles, though if you ask 100 people half would probably disagree with me  :)

Yeah I consider them consoles as well but I didn't see them in your collection list so I just threw those out there just in case.


Title: Re: Handheld Experts Needed
Post by: logical123 on February 01, 2009, 03:08:59 PM
Hey logical.

I would love the entire variant list - thanks!  I do not intend (at this time) to go down that road (get all variants) - just getting the first run systems in their original packaging for now.

Terry

Mkay!!! There are lot's of 'em, and if you ever intend on adding handhelds to your site, you might need 'em.

Okay, to start off:

Sega Game Gear Variants:
Original USA Model
Blue Sega Sports Model USA
Original Model JPN
Blue Model JPN
Coca Cola Model JPN (VERY Rare! Holy Grail of Sega stuff)

Game.com:

Model 1 (Large Version)
Model 2 (Smaller Version, there may be a backlit version too)

Nintendo Game Boy:

Gray Original
Play It-Loud Black
Play It-Loud Green
Play It-Loud Red
Play It-Loud Yellow
Play It-Loud White
Manchester United Edition (VERY rare!)
(Note: There may be other colors of the Play It-Loud series)

Nintendo Game Boy Pocket:
coming soon

Nintendo Game Boy Color:
coming soon

Nintendo Game Boy Advance:
coming soon

Nintendo Game Boy Advance: SP:

coming soon


Title: Re: Handheld Experts Needed
Post by: Moriya Hanzo on February 01, 2009, 03:34:57 PM
NEC Turboexpress  CIB $100-$125 is the price point.


Title: Re: Handheld Experts Needed
Post by: logical123 on February 01, 2009, 03:50:51 PM
O rly?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Turbo-Grafx-16-Duo-Express-Handheld-System-W-AC-Adaptor_W0QQitemZ220350962901QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVideo_Games?hash=item220350962901&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A570|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50


Title: Re: Handheld Experts Needed
Post by: Tan on February 01, 2009, 08:11:00 PM
There's also a White Game Gear and a red Magic Knight Rayearth one. :)


Title: Re: Handheld Experts Needed
Post by: Moriya Hanzo on February 01, 2009, 08:47:12 PM
O rly?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Turbo-Grafx-16-Duo-Express-Handheld-System-W-AC-Adaptor_W0QQitemZ220350962901QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVideo_Games?hash=item220350962901&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A570|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50

That is ebay market for them. They fluctuate. If you look on PCengine you would be spending $100-$125 + shipping.


Title: Re: Handheld Experts Needed
Post by: Fuyukaze on February 02, 2009, 12:03:59 AM
There's also a pepsi man game gear as well.

The Turbo-Express CIB system will cost you ALOT.  The system alone tends to fetch around 175 on the low end on average.  No idea on a CIB copy.  WS systems can range in price but the range realy isnt much.  A plain WS system can be had for 20-25, color for 25-40, and a crystal for maybe 30-45.  The varients from what I remember tend to not fetch THAT much of a premium but I'd say 70-80 tops for a couple of them with most being in the 40-55 range.  Also, I'm not aware of any varients with pack in games that were from the b/w WS or the crystal.  I think they were all WS color systems.  I'm not an expert on the system by any means though.  Game Gear systems shouldnt be that expensive but as I finaly got one a year or so ago, I've not looked in a very long time.  None of the Nintendo systems should cost more then retail at best.  The original GB stuff before the Advance may cost you the most but I highly doubt it.  Some of the stuff on your list is just too obscure though and doesnt appear on ebay enough to have a clue.


Title: Re: Handheld Experts Needed
Post by: Sirgin on February 02, 2009, 09:40:58 AM
Manchester United Edition (VERY rare!)
I used to have that! God, I can't believe how stupid I was for letting it go. :(

It was way, way before I got into collecting though, I remember not needing it anymore because I had a GameBoy Color. :P


Title: Re: Handheld Experts Needed
Post by: Funk_Buddy on February 02, 2009, 11:33:22 AM
What about?

Game Theory Admiral
Game Axe
Systema 2000/Hartung Game Master/Game Tronic


Title: Re: Handheld Experts Needed
Post by: Barracuda on February 02, 2009, 02:47:50 PM
VSmile Pocket?
Pixter?
Epoch Game Pocket Computer?

I dont think that there is really much missing other than clones.


Title: Re: Handheld Experts Needed
Post by: Izret101 on February 02, 2009, 03:25:39 PM
Sega Mega Jet
GB SP Backlit model
GP2X F200

Bit Gamate
GameTech Pocket Fami
Leapfrog iQuest (edutainment you can pick up the carts in clearance aisles at walmarts nation wide.)
Leapfrog Leapster
Leapfrog Leapster Lmax
Entex Adventure Vision
Entex Select-A-Game
Ohio Arts Etch a Sketch Animator 2000

Should be out this year:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora_(console) That page says something about preoders.

That should be a decent bulk of them. Most of whats left should be variants and/or handhelds without exchangeable games.
There are a couple with dloadable games and a ton with the built-ins and a couple barcode scanners.


EDIT also the digiBlast i think that was Europe only but region by region it had a varying release list. It use to be in the database but since we had issues with Euro releases back then i don't think any games got added for the system

EDIT EDIT
ZLeapfrog Fly and i believe their is a Fly 2 now also


Title: Re: Handheld Experts Needed
Post by: blcklblskt on February 02, 2009, 10:12:53 PM
There is also the Didj by leapster.  It costs around $90, however :/


Title: Re: Handheld Experts Needed
Post by: Marriott_Guy on February 03, 2009, 06:55:26 PM
Yeah I consider them consoles as well but I didn't see them in your collection list so I just threw those out there just in case.
The Entex & Romtec have alluded me.  The lack of haiving a VB is just pure laziness on my part  :)


Title: Re: Handheld Experts Needed
Post by: Marriott_Guy on February 03, 2009, 07:11:33 PM
Thanks for all of the feedback!!  I have u[dated the main topic thread with the main handheld additions with credit to the person supplying the info.  I am not targeting systems designed specifically for children, hence some I haven't added to my initial target list.  I do appreciate the info though, and I will append my thread to include these (give me a day or so - if any staff member wants to append my orignal post to include these in their own section, feel free to do so).

I have been doing some research and the PC Engine GT\TurboExpress does command a hefty investment.  I would be intested in any interesting links anyone has that reviews handheld systems for some more info.  One of the things I am struggling with is identifying the original packaging some of these handheld systems were distributed in.  There seems to be a wide variety in this area. 

Thanks again all.  Your help is definitely appreciated!!


Title: Re: Handheld Experts Needed
Post by: Moriya Hanzo on February 03, 2009, 08:22:46 PM
Yeah the PC engine/TE prices have gone up. Glad i found mine CIB in the wild for just an extra DS that i had. Good luck in finding one. It is a great handheld, especially since i can't find a damn TG 16 or Duo.


Title: Re: Handheld Experts Needed
Post by: Marriott_Guy on February 09, 2009, 06:02:01 PM
Hello all.

OK - I have added some of the handheld systems and now I need to get some game suggestions.  The handhelds that I have acquired thus far:

Bandai Wonderswan
Bandai Wonderswan Color
Neo Geo Pocket
NEC Turbo Express
Nintendo DS Lite
Nintendo Game Boy
Nintendo Game Boy Advance
Nintendo Game Boy Micro
Sony Pocketstation
Sony PSP
TimeTop GameKing I
TimeTop GameKing II

Obviously I am picking off deals here and there and am not driven by a certain time era that a respective handheld was released.  I would like to start by getting 5 games for each system.  Regarding genre, I am a huge fan of RPGs and like FP shooters, sports (golf in particular) and action/adventure (like the Balder's Gate series) games.  I would also like to add the 'signature' game for the respective system.

Could you give me your top 5 games for any of these systems to help me out?  Please include the genre if it not readily apparent.

Thanks in advance all!


Title: Re: Handheld Experts Needed
Post by: BadEnoughDude on February 09, 2009, 06:24:22 PM
For the PSP, make sure to get God of War: Chains of Olympus, Jeanne D'Arc (strategy RPG), Disgaea: Afternoon of Darkness and Final Fantasy Tactics: War of the Lions. That's only four, but finding a fifth wouldn't be difficult. You have a ton to choose from (Valkyrie Profile: Lenneth, Final Fantasy VII: Crisis Core, Yggra Union: We'll Never Fight Alone, R-Type Command, etc).


Title: Re: Handheld Experts Needed
Post by: blcklblskt on February 09, 2009, 10:25:48 PM
For Game Boy, I recommend the Fire Emblem series (2 in series, turn-based strategy), the Golden Sun series (2 in series, RPG), and there are of course Final Fantasy's 1-6. Advance Wars 1 & 2 (turn based) are also pretty fun.

And if you still need more, TLoZ: the Minish cap is a great Zelda title, along with the SNES remake (A Link to the Past)


Title: Re: Handheld Experts Needed
Post by: Tan on February 10, 2009, 08:48:48 AM
Nintendo DS
Clubhouse Games (http://www.rfgeneration.com/cgi-bin/getinfo.pl?ID=U-087-S-01570-A) - Card/parlour game compilation
Legend of Zelda, The: Phantom Hourglass (http://www.rfgeneration.com/cgi-bin/getinfo.pl?ID=U-087-S-03540-A)
Namco Museum DS (http://www.rfgeneration.com/cgi-bin/getinfo.pl?ID=U-087-S-03441-A) - Arcade emulation
Puzzle Quest: Challenge of WarLords (http://www.rfgeneration.com/cgi-bin/getinfo.pl?ID=U-087-S-02681-A) Puzzle/RPG hybrid
Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood (http://www.rfgeneration.com/cgi-bin/getinfo.pl?ID=U-087-S-05980-A)- BioWare RPG

Nintendo Game Boy
Final Fantasy Adventure (http://www.rfgeneration.com/cgi-bin/getinfo.pl?ID=U-037-S-01560-A)
Final Fantasy Legend I (http://www.rfgeneration.com/cgi-bin/getinfo.pl?ID=U-037-S-01570-A)
Final Fantasy Legend II (http://www.rfgeneration.com/cgi-bin/getinfo.pl?ID=U-037-S-01580-A)
Final Fantasy Legend III (http://www.rfgeneration.com/cgi-bin/getinfo.pl?ID=U-037-S-01590-A)
Legend of Zelda, The: Link's Awakening (http://www.rfgeneration.com/cgi-bin/getinfo.pl?ID=U-037-S-02500-A) (also available as a bundle)
Tetris (http://www.rfgeneration.com/cgi-bin/getinfo.pl?ID=U-037-S-04620-A) (pack-in with system)

Nintendo Game Boy Color
Dragon Warrior I & II (http://www.rfgeneration.com/cgi-bin/getinfo.pl?ID=U-069-S-01010-A)
Dragon Warrior III (http://www.rfgeneration.com/cgi-bin/getinfo.pl?ID=U-069-S-01020-A)
Legend of Zelda, The: Link's Awakening DX (http://www.rfgeneration.com/cgi-bin/getinfo.pl?ID=U-069-S-01800-A)
Legend of Zelda, The: Oracle of Ages (http://www.rfgeneration.com/cgi-bin/getinfo.pl?ID=U-069-S-01810-A)
Legend of Zelda, The: Oracle of Seasons (http://www.rfgeneration.com/cgi-bin/getinfo.pl?ID=U-069-S-01820-A)
Lufia: The Legend Returns (http://www.rfgeneration.com/cgi-bin/getinfo.pl?ID=U-069-S-01990-A) - RPG
Tetris DX (http://www.rfgeneration.com/cgi-bin/getinfo.pl?ID=U-069-S-03800-A)

Nintendo Game Boy Advance
Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance (http://www.rfgeneration.com/cgi-bin/getinfo.pl?ID=U-074-S-00260-A)
Duke Nukem Advance (http://www.rfgeneration.com/cgi-bin/getinfo.pl?ID=U-074-S-01510-A) - FPS
Ecks vs. Sever (http://www.rfgeneration.com/cgi-bin/getinfo.pl?ID=U-074-S-01550-A) - FPS
Lufia: The Ruins of Lore (http://www.rfgeneration.com/cgi-bin/getinfo.pl?ID=U-074-S-02830-A) - RPG
Lunar Legend (http://www.rfgeneration.com/cgi-bin/getinfo.pl?ID=U-074-S-02840-A) - RPG
Legend of Zelda, The: The Minish Cap (http://www.rfgeneration.com/cgi-bin/getinfo.pl?ID=U-074-S-06380-A)

Sony PSP
Alien Syndrome (http://www.rfgeneration.com/cgi-bin/getinfo.pl?ID=U-095-S-04110-A) - Baldur's Gate-like ARPG
Castlevania: The Dracula X Chronicles (http://www.rfgeneration.com/cgi-bin/getinfo.pl?ID=U-095-S-04440-A)
Dungeon Siege: Throne of Agony (http://www.rfgeneration.com/cgi-bin/getinfo.pl?ID=U-095-S-03100-A) - Baldur's Gate-like ARPG


If you don't have one already, grab yourself a Game Boy Player (http://www.rfgeneration.com/PHP/gethwinfo.php?ID=U-076-H-00150-A) add-on for the GameCube or the specially made one for your Panasonic Q. There are also Game Boy Advance to GameCube cables for connectivity between the two. Zelda Four Swords (http://www.rfgeneration.com/cgi-bin/getinfo.pl?ID=U-076-S-03831-A) comes with one if you get the big box version, but it's also sold separately (http://www.rfgeneration.com/PHP/gethwinfo.php?ID=U-076-H-00070-A). :)


Title: Re: Handheld Experts Needed
Post by: Funk_Buddy on February 10, 2009, 10:45:26 AM
These are just from what I own. Not played anything else.

Bandai Wonderswan/Color

Crazy Climber
Engacho!
Gunpey
Lode Runner
Side Pocket
Chocobo's Mysterious Dungeon
Chouaniki: Otoko no Tamafuda
FF
FF II
Star Hearts
Judgement Silversword
Terrors 2
Wonder Classic

Neo Geo Pocket/Color

Cool Boarders
Dark Arms
Baseball Stars
Ganbare Neo Poke Kun
Last Blade: Beyond the Destiny
Metal Slug 1st Mission
Metal Slug 2nd Mission
Mizuki Shigeru's Ghost Photo Gallery
Neo Turf Masters
Ogre Battle
Pocket Tennis
Sonic Pocket




Title: Re: Handheld Experts Needed
Post by: Sirgin on February 10, 2009, 01:25:43 PM
Seeing you already have a Game Boy you should get one of the Pokémon games. They're the best selling GB and GBC games after Tetris. Don't worry about a particular version, they're pretty much all the same. :)


Title: Re: Handheld Experts Needed
Post by: Izret101 on February 10, 2009, 02:10:49 PM
Go with Red/Blue for the original experience.
Gold/Silver for a slightly different and longer game.


Title: Re: Handheld Experts Needed
Post by: Marriott_Guy on February 10, 2009, 05:23:13 PM
Thanks guys!  This is exactly what I was looking for.  I also just picked up the Turbo Express (today).  I hear this system might have the best platform of games.  Your thoughts on this system?


Title: Re: Handheld Experts Needed
Post by: Tan on February 10, 2009, 05:28:05 PM
Thanks guys!  This is exactly what I was looking for.  I also just picked up the Turbo Express (today).  I hear this system might have the best platform of games.  Your thoughts on this system?

The Express was just a handheld TG16 and played the same games. It doesn't have internal memory though so games that saved wouldn't have that feature when played on it.

EDIT: I should also mention that the idea of Bonk or Blazing Lazers on the go sounds enticing to me. I'll end up with one of these some day as well. :)


Title: Re: Handheld Experts Needed
Post by: Marriott_Guy on February 10, 2009, 05:36:01 PM
Thanks guys!  This is exactly what I was looking for.  I also just picked up the Turbo Express (today).  I hear this system might have the best platform of games.  Your thoughts on this system?

The Express was just a handheld TG16 and played the same games. It doesn't have internal memory though so games that saved wouldn't have that feature when played on it.

EDIT: I should also mention that the idea of Bonk or Blazing Lazers on the go sounds enticing to me. I'll end up with one of these some day as well. :)
Thanks Keith.  I was not aware that it took standard Hue cards.  No save?  Wow - that was an oversight on NEC's part.


Title: Re: Handheld Experts Needed
Post by: Moriya Hanzo on February 10, 2009, 11:42:16 PM
congrats on the TE find. I was stocked about mines. Still trying to get some good games for it though.


Title: Re: Handheld Experts Needed
Post by: Marriott_Guy on February 13, 2009, 01:15:48 PM
Thanks Moriya!

I posted my initial thoughts on handheld systems in my blog - I would be interested in everyone's feedback.