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Title: Wii Music
Post by: Sirgin on November 03, 2008, 10:26:09 AM
Normally I wouldn't go around and spam the Video Game Generation with topics about bad games but this one truly calls for it...

Wii Music

How does Nintendo even has the guts to put this on the shelves?!? Seriously, is this the same company responsible for Super Mario Galaxy?

I wonder what the budget for this game was...$10k or something ??? Isn't Nintendo making enough money to atleast put out some decent games instead of this Wii Sports/Fit/Music crap? I mean, come on, even the most casual of casual gamers will think this is worthless.


Watch the review to see what I mean...it's pretty unbelievable.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/42242.html


Title: Re: Wii Music
Post by: blcklblskt on November 03, 2008, 04:47:56 PM
And to think I used to respect Nintendo's moves...:(.  99% of the games the did had some sort of a polish to them that made them say "Nintendo", and sadly, I think that the massive money made from Wii is clouding their judgment now.


Title: Re: Wii Music
Post by: Tan on November 03, 2008, 05:27:46 PM
How does Nintendo even has the guts to put this on the shelves?!? Seriously, is this the same company responsible for Super Mario Galaxy?

Because they are trying so hard to be different that they, in some ways, have forgotten who they are and how they got here.


Title: Re: Wii Music
Post by: Cobra on November 03, 2008, 06:43:20 PM
Better song selection, not having the ability to grade yourself (what were they thinking?!) and not getting forced to record a video then watch it, and it could have been alright. I am glad they did try something a little different apposed to making a Guitar Hero / Rockband clone.

With all of that said, get Rayman Raving Rabbids 2. A lot more fun, and also has your Guitar Hero / Rockband mini game.


Title: Re: Wii Music
Post by: modest9797 on November 03, 2008, 07:56:49 PM
They got a banjo, so it cant be too bad.


Title: Re: Wii Music
Post by: Shimra on November 03, 2008, 08:04:50 PM
Hold your horses...

Wii Sports is fantastic. Sure it's simplistic beyond all belief, but it's a pack in game that has as a ton of lasting value (imo..). It's funny, companies strive to recreate it but fail miserably even though the game is really just a tech demo.

And on a side note...

Mario Super Sluggers is some of the most fun I've had playing the Wii. I know it technically isn't one of the best games on the system but I love it's simplicity, the ability to pick players, and you know... use of the wiimote. I guess what I'm trying to say is a lot of the Wii's games are super fun even if they don't get the best reviews. However there is no way in hell I'd touch Wii Music.


Title: Re: Wii Music
Post by: Sirgin on November 04, 2008, 08:10:05 AM
Better song selection, not having the ability to grade yourself (what were they thinking?!) and not getting forced to record a video then watch it, and it could have been alright.
You could add "making better use of Wii's controller" to that list. ;)


Title: Re: Wii Music
Post by: Tondog on November 04, 2008, 10:55:08 AM
Whenever someone mentions Wii Music, I think of Sarcastic Gamer's Twisted Trailer for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4icNgolQL7E


Title: Re: Wii Music
Post by: Sirgin on November 04, 2008, 10:59:21 AM
Lol ^ :D

I just listened to one of the Sarcastic Gamer's podcasts too, it's cool.


Title: Re: Wii Music
Post by: NESman93 on November 09, 2008, 12:43:58 PM
The game just doenst look that fun to me.


Title: Re: Wii Music
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on November 09, 2008, 02:48:10 PM
Gaii


Title: Re: Wii Music
Post by: itatton on January 01, 2009, 10:07:15 PM
I think people give this game an unnecessarily hard time.  It has more than it's share of flaws, but it also caters to it's market.  Nintendo is working hard to reach out to the casual gamers with the Wii and in doing so will need to continue to release casual games.  I think it's hard for a lot of people as gamers to be able to see how a game that isn't marketed for them still has a market and could still be hitting it's market's target.  For example, my friend's daughter is about to turn one and she has a small electronic toy guitar.  The guitar has a couple electronic riffs that it plays when you press one of it's three buttons.  My friend was joking about how he was going to make a review of Wii Music and claim that his toy guitar was better than Wii Music.  I asked him if his daughter had fun playing with it and he said that she has a blast playing it.  I told him that he should take it away from her and tell her that she can enjoy playing music when she can handle a Rock Band guitar.  Obviously he gave me a pretty sour look because it was a stupid comment, but it's a similar concept to the collective reaction to Wii Music.  Those of us who really enjoy music games and wail on a Rock Band guitar, a set of Dreamcast Maracas, or a Pop'n Music controller and never play Wii Music unless it's thrust into our hands by a friend or loved one.  At the same time though, there are people out there like children or seniors in nursing homes or handicapped people who may not be able to keep up with a controller with 9 buttons or a whammy bar but are enjoying a similar music playing experience.

As far as the gametrailers.com review, I thought they were pretty fair with it.  They did a good job pointing out it's good and bad points.  It's a great concept, but it really needed some extra modes, a simple game engine (ala Daigasso Band Bros), or a means of composing multi-tracked songs with the different instruments to give it some substance.


Title: Re: Wii Music
Post by: logical123 on January 01, 2009, 10:16:06 PM
I think people give this game an unnecessarily hard time.  It has more than it's share of flaws, but it also caters to it's market.  Nintendo is working hard to reach out to the casual gamers with the Wii and in doing so will need to continue to release casual games.  I think it's hard for a lot of people as gamers to be able to see how a game that isn't marketed for them still has a market and could still be hitting it's market's target.  For example, my friend's daughter is about to turn one and she has a small electronic toy guitar.  The guitar has a couple electronic riffs that it plays when you press one of it's three buttons.  My friend was joking about how he was going to make a review of Wii Music and claim that his toy guitar was better than Wii Music.  I asked him if his daughter had fun playing with it and he said that she has a blast playing it.  I told him that he should take it away from her and tell her that she can enjoy playing music when she can handle a Rock Band guitar.  Obviously he gave me a pretty sour look because it was a stupid comment, but it's a similar concept to the collective reaction to Wii Music.  Those of us who really enjoy music games and wail on a Rock Band guitar, a set of Dreamcast Maracas, or a Pop'n Music controller and never play Wii Music unless it's thrust into our hands by a friend or loved one.  At the same time though, there are people out there like children or seniors in nursing homes or handicapped people who may not be able to keep up with a controller with 9 buttons or a whammy bar but are enjoying a similar music playing experience.

As far as the gametrailers.com review, I thought they were pretty fair with it.  They did a good job pointing out it's good and bad points.  It's a great concept, but it really needed some extra modes, a simple game engine (ala Daigasso Band Bros), or a means of composing multi-tracked songs with the different instruments to give it some substance.

Agreed. Nice points too. :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Wii Music
Post by: cverz2 on January 01, 2009, 10:27:03 PM
I really had no desire for this game before I watched the trailer.  But now I can't wait to play it. It looks really cool and could provide hours and hours of fun.

Of course I'm just BS'n.   This game looks worse than I ever could have imagined.  There is noooooo way I could buy this game now.  I mean "Twinkle Twinkle Litttle star" COME ON. What were they thinking.


Title: Re: Wii Music
Post by: logical123 on January 01, 2009, 10:27:22 PM
XD


Title: Re: Wii Music
Post by: jcalder8 on January 01, 2009, 10:40:58 PM
Whenever someone mentions Wii Music, I think of Sarcastic Gamer's Twisted Trailer for it.
That was pretty good, but I liked the Wii Fit one more.


Title: Re: Wii Music
Post by: Sirgin on January 02, 2009, 07:03:39 AM
I really had no desire for this game before I watched the trailer.  But now I can't wait to play it. It looks really cool and could provide hours and hours of fun.

Of course I'm just BS'n.
I was like "Huh?!?" until I read that line. :P


Title: Re: Wii Music
Post by: jackttt on January 02, 2009, 07:21:52 AM
I like rock band or guitar hero more.But this is a kid's game rite?No doubt it wont rock so much.


Title: Re: Wii Music
Post by: Izret101 on January 02, 2009, 06:41:09 PM
Wii Sports and Fit are both pretty cool.

Wii Play was worth it for the Wiimote packaged with it.
Wii Music looks like a steaming pile of... poop.


Title: Re: Wii Music
Post by: ColecoVisionist on January 06, 2009, 04:19:49 PM
My 11-year-old daughter got the game for Christmas and loves it. I have no interest in playing it, though.


Title: Re: Wii Music
Post by: Darth Sidious on January 06, 2009, 08:59:10 PM
To make matters worse, that "game" was one of the few "blockbusters" (ahem...) Nintendo had to offer in 2008 besides Mario Kart Wii and Smash Bros. Quite depressing if you ask me, especially when you consider that Nintendo did not even bother to at least act as a decent publisher, seeing as how they obviously didn't have a lot to do in terms of programming. I mean, why on earth didn't they even attempt to bring some Japanese inhouse productions to western shores, such as the DS installment of Heracles or Soma Bringer?
That's why I am beginning to hate Nintendo. They act as if they are still hardcore and care about their fans (yeah, right...), and yet they don't have the courage to localize smaller gems fans are really craving...anyone remember the Mother 3 disaster?

Only the DS is still connecting me to Nintendo...even though at the moment, most "must-play" DS games are not even by Nintendo, rather by Square (The World Ends With You, the Dragon quest remakes), Konami (Castlevania series, Contra 4), Capcom (Phoenix Wright series) or smaller developers and publishers like Atlus and Nippon Ichi.


Title: Re: Wii Music
Post by: phoenix1967 on January 07, 2009, 09:47:59 AM
One of these days I'll get a DS. 8)


Title: Re: Wii Music
Post by: Darth Sidious on January 07, 2009, 07:35:56 PM
@Phoenix
Consider yourself lucky, then. ^^ After all, the current situation of the handheld market is quite a pleasant surprise for us gamers. Has there ever been a time when two handheld consoles were offering such stellar games as the DS and PSP at the moment? Sure, the Game Gear, NeoGeo Pocket and WonderSwan were far from being bad machines, but they were all overshadowed by Nintendo.
To me, both the DS and the PSP are far more interesting than any of the current gen consoles (except for maybe the 360), mainly due to the fact that both handhelds offer a great library of old school, "hardcore" games (i.e. Contra 4, Castlevania, Ultimate Ghosts 'n Goblins, Gradius Collection, Metal Slug 7/Anthology, Star Ocean 1 and 2...fans of classic gaming would most likely rejoice).

Now compare that to the Wii and the dirt Nintendo is churning out at the moment...looks like Nintendo has moved on to their new target audience - casual gamers - while us long-time fans remain forgotten by one of our favorite companies. Games like Wii Muisc proof for this sad development imo, especially when you take into consideration that those Wii-whatever titles are the sole new IPs Nintendo has come up with so far during this gen. Where has all the positive creativity gone?


Title: Re: Wii Music
Post by: Cobra on January 07, 2009, 10:06:12 PM
I keep forgetting the PSP is even still around until people mention it to be honest. I guess it is a lot more successful outside of Oceania.


Title: Re: Wii Music
Post by: blcklblskt on January 08, 2009, 04:17:22 PM
I keep forgetting the PSP is even still around until people mention it to be honest. I guess it is a lot more successful outside of Oceania.

I still don't even think about it.  There really aren't enough games (that aren't PS2 ports already) that interest me enough.  There really isn't a whole lot o' games that I want for it either (even though I still want a PSP :P)


Title: Re: Wii Music
Post by: itatton on January 08, 2009, 06:13:13 PM
I might be missing some, but I can only come up with 6 casual titles that Nintendo released since the Wii has come out (Wii Sports, Wii Play, Big Brain Academy, Link's Crossbow Training, Wii Fit, and Wii Music).  I don't get how their focus is strictly on casual gamers when less than 1/3 of their games are geared for that market.  Don't get me wrong, I want to see some new IP from Nintendo, see them update some of their better franchises, or see more Japanese only games come stateside.  At the same time though, I don't see them steering too far away from their niche audience.


Title: Re: Wii Music
Post by: Sirgin on January 10, 2009, 08:23:01 AM
@itatton: I think they mean that there's more Shovelware on the Wii than on any other system.


Title: Re: Wii Music
Post by: modest9797 on January 26, 2009, 04:51:17 PM
I don't know what was so bad about the BK games.  I loved Big Bumpin' and Pocket Bike Racer.  Sneak King got boring after awhile but was ok.