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Title: Fable II
Post by: Sirgin on October 09, 2008, 04:04:13 PM
Just saw this developer walkthrough thing and I must say I liked what I saw. And the game is coming out 21/10. :)
I'm seriously thinking of getting an Xbox 360 in the coming months or so when I see games like this.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/41167.html

I love the look of this game :drool:

[img width=700 height=393]http://nukoda.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/fable-2.jpg[/img]

Who of you Xbox 360 owners will get this game when it comes out? (or shortly after)



Title: Re: Fable II
Post by: Feechy on October 09, 2008, 04:20:17 PM
I'll get it, looks really good.


Title: Re: Fable II
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on October 09, 2008, 04:37:45 PM
I loved the first, hope it comes to PC.


Title: Re: Fable II
Post by: phoenix1967 on October 10, 2008, 07:57:24 AM
Sirgin, when you get a 360, be sure to pick up the original Xbox version of Fable: The Lost Chapters (platinum hit). The 360's backward compatibility will allow you to play it.

I enjoyed Fable. And will definitely be getting Fable II...I just don't know when.

The fact that Fallout 3 is coming out the following week is making me consider waiting on Fable II. We'll see. :-\


Title: Re: Fable II
Post by: Rajaat the Warbringer on October 10, 2008, 08:36:16 AM
Fallout 3 is definitely taking precedence over Fable 2 for me. Though I will likely get it before the end of the year.


Title: Re: Fable II
Post by: phoenix1967 on October 10, 2008, 01:32:15 PM
Knowing how big a game Fallout 3 is looking to be, I may actually prefer to get Fable 2 first. Decisions. Decisions. :P

Time for a poll.  :nod:



Title: Re: Fable II
Post by: Sirgin on October 10, 2008, 06:25:01 PM
Sirgin, when you get a 360, be sure to pick up the original Xbox version of Fable: The Lost Chapters (platinum hit).
Alright, thanks for letting me know. :)

But the chance exists that I'll get an old Xbox before I get a 360, seeing it's still on my "to buy" list.


Title: Re: Fable II
Post by: cyberfluxor on October 12, 2008, 03:39:55 PM
I've been wanting to try Fable for awhile from all I heard, so unless it comes my way soon Fable II will be another holding item. Anyone think they'll do a Fable 1 + 2 box for the PC? That may set me up to grab them together. :)

Sirgin, when you get a 360, be sure to pick up the original Xbox version of Fable: The Lost Chapters (platinum hit).
Alright, thanks for letting me know. :)

But the chance exists that I'll get an old Xbox before I get a 360, seeing it's still on my "to buy" list.
One of the game stores around here now sells Xbox systems with hook-ups, controllers, and 6-month warranty for $40. I picked up one the other month along with some games like Halo 2, Metal Slug 3, Serious Sam II, Tork, Max Payne, Without Warning, and Pac-Man World 2. It has a few dozen games I'm really interested in and plan to buy a few more units down the road for networking. I've owned a GameCube for almost 5 years now, a PS2 for 2 years, and an Xbox for a month. Quite frankly they are all cool systems to have.


Title: Re: Fable II
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on October 12, 2008, 04:08:45 PM
I've been wanting to try Fable for awhile from all I heard, so unless it comes my way soon Fable II will be another holding item. Anyone think they'll do a Fable 1 + 2 box for the PC? That may set me up to grab them together. :)


Eh, from all I've seen/heard Fable II will just be a better Fable 1. Not sure how you are when it comes to things like this but if I were to get both I'd probably never touch the old game. If you want to try Fable just get it now before the new one comes out.



Title: Re: Fable II
Post by: Sirgin on October 13, 2008, 07:03:06 AM
One of the game stores around here now sells Xbox systems with hook-ups, controllers, and 6-month warranty for $40.
I'd buy that too. :)

Butttt, I live in Belgium so I'll have to find one on eBay most likely. :(


Title: Re: Fable II
Post by: phoenix1967 on October 20, 2008, 08:31:30 AM
Spoke with a friend of mine from work who has a friend that was a Beta tester on Fable 2.

The guy bought a Pub in town and decided to give all the citizens free beer. After everyone was drunk and stumbling around town, his character proceeded to pickpocket every one of them. 8)


Title: Re: Fable II
Post by: Sirgin on October 20, 2008, 09:26:56 AM
Lol! :D


Title: Re: Fable II
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on October 20, 2008, 03:42:17 PM
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF


Title: Re: Fable II
Post by: logical123 on October 20, 2008, 04:08:34 PM
Wait... How does that average to 8.8?


Title: Re: Fable II
Post by: phoenix1967 on October 20, 2008, 04:23:38 PM
^It says it's not an average.


Title: Re: Fable II
Post by: Tondog on October 20, 2008, 05:48:58 PM
IGN doesn't make sense sometimes. Remember, we're talking about the site that gave God Hand a 3/10.


Title: Re: Fable II
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on October 20, 2008, 06:02:54 PM
Can't spell ignorant without IGN.


Title: Re: Fable II
Post by: Sirgin on October 21, 2008, 09:34:13 AM
Can't spell ignorant without IGN.
Lol  :laugh:


Title: Re: Fable II
Post by: phoenix1967 on October 21, 2008, 10:07:01 AM
Good one. I remember them giving Jade Empire a 9.9.

While I admit Jade Empire is a great game, it could be better, and probably should grade in at about a 9.0.



Title: Re: Fable II
Post by: Sirgin on October 21, 2008, 10:37:31 AM
Good one. I remember them giving Jade Empire a 9.9.
No game should ever get a 9.9, that's way too high.


Title: Re: Fable II
Post by: phoenix1967 on October 22, 2008, 08:37:46 AM
I just got past the Childhood portion of the game and have begun exploring a little in the dungeon where I'm supposed to find my "destiny".

Fable II first impressions:

Story - Pretty basic revenge tale. You do have good/evil path options as early as childhood, though. 
Graphics - Excellent! Very colorful and with a unique art style. Both the characters and environments are done very well.
Sound - So far so good. Too early to tell really
Gameplay - Combat is very straightforward and user-friendly. Excellent interfaces and easy menu use.

Worth mentioning...the dog! So far this is probably the most interesting feature of the game. As your only party member, early impressions are that the dog will play a significant impact on your success/failure in the game. For example, he barks when you're about to miss something. There were 2 instances where after he barked, he found a dig location and a treasure chest that I would've overlooked (because I was in night-time mode). Initially, I'm impressed with the dog AI. 

Another interesting aspect is the ability to buy/sell/rent out buildings. It appears that many of the buildings (residences & businesses) in Fable II can be bought/sold/rented out. Apparently, the game world changes based on your character's development, and it impacts the economy of the Fable 2 world, property values, etc.. Obviously, I have no gold right now, nor enough of a reputation to affect anything, but I'm intrigued to see how these aspects play out.


Title: Re: Fable II
Post by: Sirgin on October 22, 2008, 05:18:55 PM
It has sparked my interest, from what you've written there. Especially the dog thing looks interesting. I'll definitely pick this game up, someday. :)


Title: Re: Fable II
Post by: phoenix1967 on October 23, 2008, 07:42:36 AM
Be sure to get the collector's edition if you can. I've been using the additional in-game content and it adds to the humor. You have an added treasure chest that contains a Master Chief suit and an Energy Sword (although it doesn't do 1-shot kills); I tried it out and eventually got to a town that needed Blacksmith help. So I took the job to get some quick gold, and it cuts to a scene of my character in the Master Chief outfit taking a hammer and pounding out swords in a mini-game...ironic. You can also buy the "Master Chief" title from the town crier for free.

I haven't found the other bonus content of a hidden dungeon and a powerful weapon you can find there, but I'll get around to it eventually, I'm sure.

I did buy a book for the dog to learn how to sniff out better/more frequent treasures and it's been paying dividends right away!

There's so much to do. Excellent game! 8)



Title: Re: Fable II
Post by: Tan on October 23, 2008, 09:19:47 PM
I just got this game as a gift, saves from forking over the $49.99 for it in lieu of Fallout 3 next week or so. :)

If your out to buy the Limited Edition, take note that some of them don't have the DLC cards in them.

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/10/20/fable-2-collectors-edition-may-have-missing-dlc-card/


Title: Re: Fable II
Post by: Feechy on October 25, 2008, 10:40:47 PM
Just beat this game, it was really good, the ending was a bit strange though. But the battle's are really good and it's interesting how the guns in this game work. I.E. shoot someone in the arm they drop their weapon, leg they become crippled, and for the head... BOOM HEADSHOT!! :P


Title: Re: Fable II
Post by: Sirgin on October 26, 2008, 09:31:31 AM
Just beat this game
Is it a short game or do you just have a lot of gaming time? (no pun)

EDIT: Just saw the GT Review. Yup, a short game (if you wish it to be atleast)

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/42024.html


Title: Re: Fable II
Post by: Feechy on October 26, 2008, 08:59:37 PM
It may take awhile to do EVERYTHING, but for the main storyline it's quite short.


Title: Re: Fable II
Post by: phoenix1967 on October 26, 2008, 10:39:51 PM
I've been taking my time with it because I heard it was short. I've been building wealth and buying real estate & businesses to get a steady stream of income.

I've just reached Briarwood.


Title: Re: Fable II
Post by: Tan on October 29, 2008, 06:27:20 AM
I just beat this a while ago. Good game and all but man they need to hire some beta testers ASAP. I've seen few games that have as many bugs, glitches and poor level design as this one does. Also in risk of spoiling anything, when your guide tells you to finish up anything before a major event, do so. You may end up screwing yourself out of the ability to complete an achievement or two based on your choices.

Other than that it was a good solid game for killing the time left waiting for Fallout 3.


Title: Re: Fable II
Post by: Kimoosabi on October 29, 2008, 08:17:49 PM
I played it a bit last week. I'm not sure what it was, it just didn't click for me. I really enjoyed the first Fable, so I assumed I'd really enjoy the second one, but I find it lacking. It's frustrating, because I can't put my finger on any one issue that is bothering me, just the game as a whole isn't my cup of tea I guess.


Title: Re: Fable II
Post by: phoenix1967 on October 29, 2008, 09:51:51 PM
^It's a very unique game. It's basically Action/Adventure/RPG/Sims. I like it enough, though. I think it will have some fun replay value as well.


Title: Re: Fable II
Post by: phoenix1967 on October 30, 2008, 12:48:34 PM
My extended impression of the game is that if you're in it solely to complete the adventure portion of the game and move on to something else, this should probably just be a rental for you and is likely only worth about a 7 out of 10.

However, if you feel that all of the other aspects of the game enhance your enjoyment of it where you have no problem with taking a gradual approach to completing the main quest in between sidequests, gargoyle hunting, real estate/family simulation, demon door solving, etc. likely it is worth an 8.5 out of 10 in my opinion.

I do agree with the previous statement about it needing additional playtesting prior to release. Even though I'm still early in the main quest portion of the game, there have been a couple of glitches already; 1 of them was where my dog was floating in air after I ran down a hill...which corrected itself. The other glitch was when I first encountered a Troll. I was in the middle of an attack and all of a sudden my character was up in the sky by the moon and couldn't come down, so it caused me to restart. Good thing I save frequently.

However, the good far outweigh the bad as far as I'm concerned. And I'm in the 8.5/10 opinion.


Title: Re: Fable II
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on October 30, 2008, 01:44:19 PM
Fable 1 had the same stupid glitches. You'd think they'd learn. Is balance any better? In 1 you could pretty much just buy everything from a vendor and sell it back for more than you had bought it for because of the game's awful "supply and demand" mechanic.


Title: Re: Fable II
Post by: Sirgin on October 30, 2008, 03:25:09 PM
I played it a bit last week. I'm not sure what it was, it just didn't click for me. I really enjoyed the first Fable, so I assumed I'd really enjoy the second one, but I find it lacking. It's frustrating, because I can't put my finger on any one issue that is bothering me, just the game as a whole isn't my cup of tea I guess.
Is it that much different from the first Fable then?


Title: Re: Fable II
Post by: phoenix1967 on October 30, 2008, 04:00:09 PM
Fable 1 had the same stupid glitches. You'd think they'd learn. Is balance any better? In 1 you could pretty much just buy everything from a vendor and sell it back for more than you had bought it for because of the game's awful "supply and demand" mechanic.

I had no problems with Fable 1 on Xbox. I can't speak to the PC version of it, though.

The commodity supply & demand mechanic in Fable 2 is pretty simple. It's pretty much buy low-sell high...when you see vendors selling things under the market price, buy them out and hold onto them until you see that there's a Shortage in another town. Go there. Sell. Repeat. You're really never encumbered from what I can tell. Although, I've invested a lot of points into Strength so it just may not affect my character.


Is it that much different from the first Fable then?

Some things are similar, but overall, it's A LOT different. But that point of view also depends upon your expectations of the game.

For example, 3 mechanics have been vastly improved...first, the digging in Fable 2 is made a lot easier by having your dog with you. Second, adding swimming and removing fishing makes it a lot easier to obtain treasures that are under water. Third, the expression system in Fable 2 is more fun (because it uses a meter "mini-game") and easier to utilize (RtBumper)than it was in Fable 1. But if you liked these were handled in Fable 1, you may or may not like the way it is in Fable 2.

I've been dabbling in just about everything...main quest, side quest, and other stuff. And it's making the adventure longer for me for sure, but I'm not minding that. Others may have a problem with it.

Then again, I am an achievement ho at times and this game's achievements are fairly well thought out.

Unfortunately, there's no demo for it, so rent it and see if it's something you'd like. 8)



Title: Re: Fable II
Post by: Tan on October 30, 2008, 04:26:24 PM
My worst 2 glitches were when an NPC who I was supposed to follow, froze in place because I sniped the baddies I was fighting from afar instead of running down to meet them head on with my companions.

Second one, my character froze in a jumping pose. His arms were over his head spread out and his feet together while looking down. Everywhere I went he was stuck like that, floating a couple inches off the ground like some corporeal spirit or something. I could still fight, shoot, and "float faster" when I sprinted, but it denied me the ability to jump.

Then of course the dozens of times my dog got stuck or I got stuck while exploring or the horrible, horrible menu lag :P.

Compared to many people I've read about, I got lucky. After putting in 40 hours with this game I've seen plenty. Otherwise I'd have given this game an 8.5/10 as well instead of the 7.5 in my review.


Title: Re: Fable II
Post by: Sirgin on October 30, 2008, 04:40:28 PM
Do game developers don't go through the effort of taking out bugs before releasing a game anymore? Especially for a Triple-A title like Fable II. :-\


Title: Re: Fable II
Post by: Tan on October 30, 2008, 04:49:32 PM
Do game developers don't go through the effort of taking out bugs before releasing a game anymore? Especially for a Triple-A title like Fable II. :-\

It was probably rushed to make the holiday season and fit into a schedule that didn't conflict with other major titles. It's not a coincidence that these games that take years to make all seem to come out during fall/winter. Like I was saying about my backlog habit, no one wants to dump a great game on people during Jan-March. Everyone is recovering from their Christmas bills and getting ready for tax season, not a good time to release a "Triple A" $60 title.

That or the engine used for the game is inherently broken, it wouldn't be the first time. Anyone who has played a game using the Havok physics engine knows what I mean. Sometimes you have to sacrifice quality for ideas, vision and usability.

I'm sure Fallout 3 has many of the same problems Oblivion did as it uses the same engine. It just a matter of how intrusive it is to the gamer who's trying to enjoy it.


Title: Re: Fable II
Post by: phoenix1967 on November 03, 2008, 03:28:55 PM
Found a 3rd bug during play yesterday in Fable 2.

I was in the Crucible quest, 4th room I think, and was about to vault over a balcony when I pressed a button ("Y") to access my rifle. It held my character in a pose that had him floating with his arms spread wide and feet on tip-toe. I had to finish the Crucible quest in this position.

When I got through with the quest, it was still stuck in this position even though I could move around and go to other regions. When I rebooted it was back to normal.

@Tan, like you said, it's really too bad that they didn't put more time into debugging the game. How are the bugs in Fable 2 when compared to Two Worlds? I heard that patch updates corrected TW's major issues.



Title: Re: Fable II
Post by: Tan on November 03, 2008, 03:59:49 PM
Found a 3rd bug during play yesterday in Fable 2.

I was in the Crucible quest, 4th room I think, and was about to vault over a balcony when I pressed a button ("Y") to access my rifle. It held my character in a pose that had him floating with his arms spread wide and feet on tip-toe. I had to finish the Crucible quest in this position.

When I got through with the quest, it was still stuck in this position even though I could move around and go to other regions. When I rebooted it was back to normal.

@Tan, like you said, it's really too bad that they didn't put more time into debugging the game. How are the bugs in Fable 2 when compared to Two Worlds? I heard that patch updates corrected TW's major issues.



Having played and beaten Two Words twice, and having explored every bit of the map for the 1000/1000 I can honestly say it's not nearly as buggy, patched or pre-patched, as Fable II is. The framerate of TW chugs along a bit, but so does FII. TW doesn't have much if any menu lag either where your waiting for the game menus or expression tree to catch up with you.

A shame so many based their judgment of Two Worlds on the first couple hours of play, in many ways it has set the bar higher than Oblivion and it does some things better than Mass Effect. That the sequel was delayed from September to next year is my biggest disappointment this gaming season.


Title: Re: Fable II
Post by: phoenix1967 on November 05, 2008, 05:40:16 PM
^Looks like you and I had the same glitches regarding the dog and the "frozen jump/vault".

I might check into TW when the price drops a little further. I'll trust your judgment on that one. But if it truly sucks I'll hunt you down! ;D