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Title: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: Darth Sidious on August 04, 2008, 09:01:08 PM
Well, when it comes to Japanese RPGs, most people think of Final Fantasy, naturally, followed by Dragon Quest perhaps. After all, these are the oldest and most successful RPG franchises, both worldwide and in Japan.
However, ever since Dragon Quest established RPGs as a profitable genre in Japan, there have been countless additions to this particular kind of game, some of which have gained a cult following and critical acclaim (and rightly so), including the Star Ocean, Grandia, Lunar, Chrono or Xenogears/Xenosaga franchises.

However, as of 2008, the current no. 3 franchise is Namco's Tales series, which started with Tales of Phantasia on the SNES in 1995. By now, it's easy to lose count of all the games coming out and being in development, and it has also become difficult to determine what console is going to be the main platform for Tales (last year, Namco said it would be the DS, now it's gonna be the Wii...).

Unfortunately, though, Namco has developed a completely senseless strategy when it comes to releasing their Tales games in the US...or rather what games they release here. Ever since Tales of Eternia on the PSX, none of the 2D Tales games have seen a release outside Japan, probably because Namco thinks that us stupid western gamers don't dig 2D anymore. So after ToE, only the 3D Tales games made it outside Japan, but fortunately, we got some real gems that way, mainly Tales of the Abyss (perhaps my favorite PS2 RPG) and Tales of Symphonia (even though the PS2 port remained Japan exclusive). But even the "3D Tales = US release confirmed" formula doesn't seem to work anymore. Tales of the Tempest on the DS, for that matter, didn't see a release outisde Japan, but that might because of the problematic development of the game (and the rush job DIMPS did with finishing the game) and the negative reception (even the developers reduced its status from a main title to an escort title in the series...kinda like admitting that the game didn't meet fan expectations) it received even in Japan (Famitsu gave it merely a score of 28/40...pretty poor for a Tales game).
However, I don't get why they won't be releasing Tales of Innocence in the US - it's got some awesome 3D graphics for the system, a great battle system and thus a chance to do well in the US market. It's still a mystery to me, since on the other hand, they released Tales of the World: RM in the US, which is merely a fan-service spin-off featuring characters most Americans don't even know because the respective games haven't been released outside Japan (i.e. Veigue Lungberg and Eugene Gallardo from Tales of Rebirth or Harold from Tales of Destiny 2). It's nice we got the game, but the strategy behind their release policies doesn't appear to be rational.

As for the new ones: Tales of Vesperia and Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World have been confirmed for a release in the US this year, but then there are Tales of Hearts on the DS and Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology 2 on the PSP. What about them? Maybe we'll get Tales of Hearts, since the game seems to be using CG-cutscenes - in order to appeal to a western audience (even though anime cutscenes wouldn't really hurt, either...western people have grown used and even attached to anime over the last 2 decades, I think).

Anyway, enough of the weird decisions by Namco - now it's up to you. What do you think of the series? What are your favourites? What do you think of each game in particular? What Tales games do you have?
I'll start with my Tales collection:
Tales of Phantasia (Game Boy Advance)
Tales of Phantasia (PlayStation)
Tales of Destiny (PlayStation)
Tales of Destiny: Director's Cut (PlayStation 2)
Tales of Eternia (PSP)
Tales of Destiny 2 (PlayStation 2)
Tales of Symphonia (GameCube)
Tales of Rebirth (PlayStation 2)
Tales of Legendia (PlayStation 2)
Tales of the Abyss (PlayStation 2)
Tales of the Tempest (Nintendo DS)
Tales of Innocence (Nintendo DS)

Tales of the World: Narikiri Dungeon 2 (GBA)
Tales of the World: Narikiri Dungeon 3 (GBA)
Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology (PSP)


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: logical123 on August 04, 2008, 09:04:50 PM
I'm gonna sound like an uber noob, but I have never played a 'Tales' game. :(

Are they worth the money?  ???


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on August 04, 2008, 11:43:43 PM
I remember one of them having cool box art, and I picked it up, but I didn't buy it.


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: Sirgin on August 05, 2008, 09:22:21 AM
I don't have any Tales of game, but from the looks of it, I should.
Some time ago I was about to buy Star Ocean (The end of time???) for the PS2, but somehow, didn't. Now I never see it in stores anymore :( Maybe I'll pick it up on eBay someday.


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: Tan on August 05, 2008, 09:24:36 AM
I had Symphonia for the cube. It was "meh", I didn't finish it or keep it. Since these games seem to have no real consistency, it would be hard to like all of them, and unless your hardcore about the series you'd need net research like a crutch to sort out the "good" from the "meh". :P


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: Darth Sidious on August 05, 2008, 11:45:37 AM
@Tan
Well, Symphonia isn't my favorite Tales game for that matter, even though it certainly is a good game, no doubts there. It has, however, its fair share of problems, mainly in the story department - it's nothing that hasn't been done before, and it bears a creepy ressemblance to the rough story of Final Fantasy X (the journey of a good hearted, female chosen to save her world from peril at the expense of her own life). And the cast of characters isn't consistent, either...especially Collette was getting on my nerves at times, though she is not as obnoxious as, say, Shirley from Tales of Legendia.
Even the battle system isn't perfect: compared to Star Ocean 3 and Tales of the Abyss, it's disappointing that you don't have a real 3D arena and may only change the 2D plane your character is moving on.

You certainly are right about the quality of the series not being that consistent. Surely, there is no bad Tales game I have played so far (even Tales of the Tempest is still okay at least), but some are lacking the certain something that would lift them into the RPG heaven.

But I think that you should keep an eye on Tales of Vesperia, coming to Xbox 360 in the US later this month. The graphics are absolutely gorgeous and even surpass Eternal Sonata - it comes very close to a playable anime, thanks to the best cel shading I have seen so far. The designs of the characters, towns, dungeons and the world itself look extremely promising as well, and the battle system appears to be a continuation of the brilliant Tales of the Abyss battle system. After all, the game is being developed by the Abyss team, so I have extremely high hopes for this title.

If you want to, I can comment on the individual Tales games I have played so far, so maybe I can help some of you with their decision on getting a Tales title at last. I can already say, though, that Tales of the Abyss is by far the best of the series.

@Sirgin
Star Ocean: Till the End of Time has a couple of similarities to the Tales series, perhaps because members of Wolf Team (developer of Tales of Phantasia) left the studio and formed tri-ace (when you compare Star Ocean to Tales of Phantasia on the Super Famicom, there are some striking similarities).
I think you can still get the game on videogamesplus.ca, and it's not even that expensive there. The game shouldn't be that hard to find, anyway, since it was a respectable success in the US (it became a member of the "Greatest Hits" label, after all).


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: Sirgin on August 05, 2008, 11:57:50 AM
@Sirgin
Star Ocean: Till the End of Time has a couple of similarities to the Tales series, perhaps because members of Wolf Team (developer of Tales of Phantasia) left the studio and formed tri-ace (when you compare Star Ocean to Tales of Phantasia on the Super Famicom, there are some striking similarities).
I think you can still get the game on videogamesplus.ca, and it's not even that expensive there. The game shouldn't be that hard to find, anyway, since it was a respectable success in the US (it became a member of the "Greatest Hits" label, after all).
Thanks for the info! I'll look into the game one of these days ;) But I live in Europe though, so I need the PAL version.


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: Darth Sidious on August 05, 2008, 02:35:49 PM
@Sirgin
Oh, sorry, I didn't notice that you're from Europe, too. But even the European version of Star Ocean: Till the End of Time shouldn't be expensive. In our local stores, for example, you can get the game new for less than 20€. And in case of need, you can buy the game from any European ebay store - normally, you'll find plenty of new copies for less than 20 € there as well.
However, if I were you, I'd use paypal in order to pay for the games. It's faster and more secure than a mere bank transfer: once you make the payment online, payment is complete and the store/seller can send the item asap. It also comes in handy when you're trying to buy a game from Great Britain or any other country that doesn't use Euro as an official currency.

If you really are into RPGs, you should also buy a mod chip for your PlayStation 2. There are tons of US and Japan only games that never made it to Europe, such as Tales of the Abyss, Xenosaga Episode I & III and many more. It really pays off if you ask me, especially since there are literally hundreds of Japanese games you could play as well - and I mean interesting ones, such as arcade-perfect ports of several SNK beat'em ups (i.e. Garou: Mark of the Wolves, the King of Fighters series, Samurai Spirits, The Last Blade and so forth) and Capcom beat'em ups (Street Fighter III)...in other words: overall, there are hundreds of interesting PS2 games, and a lot of them are exclusive to the Japanese and American market, so a mod chip (there are a couple of reliable ones) does pay off...or maybe an American or Japanese PS2; they shouldn't be too expensive anymore (and right now, buying American games is a treat for European gamers due to the current exchange rate that makes several US PS2 games pretty cheap).


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: Cobra on August 05, 2008, 11:58:08 PM
Tales of Phantasia was really good, I much rather play that than any FF game prior to VII.


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: VACRMH on August 06, 2008, 02:23:14 AM
Let's see, I have.

Tales of Phantasia (GBA)
Tales of Phantasia (Playstation)
Tales of Destiny
Tales of Destiny 2
Tales of Symphonia
Tales of Legendia
Tales of the Abyss
Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology

So yeah, every US release and 1 import (Which I patched with the english patch :) )

I've been a fan for long time, starting with Destiny but not really getting hardcore about them until starting Symphonia and loving the hell out of it. One thing that I always liked about Tales was that the series always had memorable characters, I can remember minor details and attitudes about most of the characters. Plus, I thought the voice acting has always been very good.

Can't wait for Vesperia and the Symphonia sequel. Plus someone is translating the real TOD2 for the PS2 and Innocence for the DS :)


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: Sirgin on August 06, 2008, 04:51:15 AM
@Sirgin
Oh, sorry, I didn't notice that you're from Europe, too. But even the European version of Star Ocean: Till the End of Time shouldn't be expensive. In our local stores, for example, you can get the game new for less than 20€. And in case of need, you can buy the game from any European ebay store - normally, you'll find plenty of new copies for less than 20 € there as well.
However, if I were you, I'd use paypal in order to pay for the games. It's faster and more secure than a mere bank transfer: once you make the payment online, payment is complete and the store/seller can send the item asap. It also comes in handy when you're trying to buy a game from Great Britain or any other country that doesn't use Euro as an official currency.

If you really are into RPGs, you should also buy a mod chip for your PlayStation 2. There are tons of US and Japan only games that never made it to Europe, such as Tales of the Abyss, Xenosaga Episode I & III and many more. It really pays off if you ask me, especially since there are literally hundreds of Japanese games you could play as well - and I mean interesting ones, such as arcade-perfect ports of several SNK beat'em ups (i.e. Garou: Mark of the Wolves, the King of Fighters series, Samurai Spirits, The Last Blade and so forth) and Capcom beat'em ups (Street Fighter III)...in other words: overall, there are hundreds of interesting PS2 games, and a lot of them are exclusive to the Japanese and American market, so a mod chip (there are a couple of reliable ones) does pay off...or maybe an American or Japanese PS2; they shouldn't be too expensive anymore (and right now, buying American games is a treat for European gamers due to the current exchange rate that makes several US PS2 games pretty cheap).
Thanks again! :) Just in case you didn't know how: If you want your country's flag appear below your name when you make a post, click on the "member map" button right above the forum and place a dot where you live :)

About modding my PS2, I don't want to do that, I think. Seems pretty iffy to mess around with the actual hardware.


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: Cobra on August 06, 2008, 06:12:22 AM
Speaking of the map, I may go visit SFS at the bottom of Atlantis at some point, heard the weather is nice down there :nod:


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: Sirgin on August 06, 2008, 06:22:31 AM
Speaking of the map, I may go visit SFS at the bottom of Atlantis at some point, heard the weather is nice down there :nod:
That place is actually called Atlantis???

EDIT: I mean...is there an actual place called Atlantis?


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: Silent Scythe on August 06, 2008, 07:48:32 AM
I own:
Tales of Phantasia
Tales of Destiny
Tales of Destiny 2
Tales of Symphonia
Tales of the Abyss
Tales of Legendia

So all except for the PSP one. I enjoy the Series a lot. Enough to buy one of the Tales of Destiny mangas and an art/guide book that I can't read. I'm looking forward to the next Tales of Symphonia game but as for Vesperia, I don't really do 360 games. I also own the Phantasia and Symphonia anime episodes. I've already watched Phantasia but am waiting for me and my GF to finish Symphonia before we start that one.


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: Cobra on August 07, 2008, 12:00:44 AM
Speaking of the map, I may go visit SFS at the bottom of Atlantis at some point, heard the weather is nice down there :nod:
That place is actually called Atlantis???

EDIT: I mean...is there an actual place called Atlantis?

Depends if you believe in mythology ;)


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: Sirgin on August 07, 2008, 04:11:25 AM
Speaking of the map, I may go visit SFS at the bottom of Atlantis at some point, heard the weather is nice down there :nod:
That place is actually called Atlantis???

EDIT: I mean...is there an actual place called Atlantis?

Depends if you believe in mythology ;)
Lol, but how could he (SFS) mark a place that shows up as Atlantis when you hover your mouse over his dot....?


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: Cobra on August 07, 2008, 07:38:06 AM
The truth is out there...


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: totalgridlock on August 07, 2008, 08:54:12 AM
I've only played one Tales game (Tales of Phantasia on GBA) but I do want to play more.  I'm eyeing up Tales of Symphonia on GameCube, hopefully I can find it a bit cheaper.  It sucks being on a tight budget.   I'm also looking forward to Tales of Vespiria.  I'm glad so many RPGs are coming out on 360, I don't really want to fork out twice as much for a PS3.

I'm quite annoyed about the Vespiria release date though.  I believe it comes out in a few weeks Stateside... it's Spring 2009 over here :(


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: Sirgin on August 07, 2008, 12:49:18 PM
The truth is out there...
I'm not going out there just to check if the island is named Atlantis :P


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: Darth Sidious on August 07, 2008, 02:35:29 PM
@totalgridlock
Well, there's a chance that the US version of Tales of Vesperia ends up being regionfree. If that's the case, then I am definitely going to import the US special edition - the cover looks awesome, it comes in a nifty steelbook box and there's a bonus soundtrack CD. Wow...normally, that's something you'd expect from Atlus or Nippon Ichi for US RPGs, so it's nice to see that Namco seems to be putting some effort into the US release of a Tales game at last. On top of that, the voice acting sounds rock solid so far, and the skits will finally be fully voiced...that's a big step into the right direction, now I can only hope that Tales of the World: RM 2, Tales of Hearts and MAYBE Tales of Innocence will make it stateside, if Vesperia and Symphonia 2 are doing well sales-wise.

As for Vesperia, it has finally been released in Japan today, and believe it or not: people were actually lining up before some shops in Akihabara and elsewhere...for an Xbox 360 game. I would have never even dreamed of seeing something like that happening, but it is. ^^ Who knows, maybe it will push the actual sales for the console somewhat, with other potential highlights such as Star Ocean 4 and Infinite Undiscovery being on the horizon.
By the way, Famitsu gave Tales of Vesperia a score of 35/40 (9/9/9/8), which is the second best score any Tales game ever received from Famitsu (no. 1 still is Tales of the Abyss with a score of 36/40, while Tales of Innocence scored 35/40 as well).


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: Shimra on August 09, 2008, 02:19:19 PM
@Tan
Well, Symphonia isn't my favorite Tales game for that matter, even though it certainly is a good game, no doubts there. It has, however, its fair share of problems, mainly in the story department - it's nothing that hasn't been done before, and it bears a creepy ressemblance to the rough story of Final Fantasy X (the journey of a good hearted, female chosen to save her world from peril at the expense of her own life). And the cast of characters isn't consistent, either...especially Collette was getting on my nerves at times, though she is not as obnoxious as, say, Shirley from Tales of Legendia.
Even the battle system isn't perfect: compared to Star Ocean 3 and Tales of the Abyss, it's disappointing that you don't have a real 3D arena and may only change the 2D plane your character is moving on.
anyway, since it was a respectable success in the US (it became a member of the "Greatest Hits" label, after all).

Tales of Symphonia somewhat has the same set up as FFX, but it bears an uncanny resemblance to Tales of Phantasia, it's almost the exact same concept (save time travel, Tethealla whatever). They are almost the same game.

And why does a game need a 3d battle arena? The battle system is in depth enough. Should the Guilty Gear, King of Fighters, and Street Fighter series use 3d arenas?

And no, I'm not a ToS fanboy. I just don't agree with that, and a few other things but that was all in one paragraph.


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: Darth Sidious on August 09, 2008, 07:53:05 PM
@Shimra
Don't get me wrong, a 2D battle system can work just fine in a Tales game, which is why Tales of Destiny Remake/Tales of Destiny Director's Cut, Tales of Rebirth (though it uses the 3-line battle system) or Tales of Phantasia (Super Famicom and PlayStation version) are among my favorite RPGs ever...heck, nearly every Tales with a 2D battle system is damn good...except for maybe Tales of the Tempest, which uses a 3-line system as well, and Tales of Legendia to some extent, for being utterly chaotic at times.

However, at least in Europe, Tales of Symphonia came out at the same time as Star Ocean: Till the End of Time, and to me, the system in Star Ocean simply had more depth to it and was more fun to master...maybe that's why Symphonia's battle system is not perfect for me.
Tales of the Abyss and Tales of Innocence are proof that Tales can work within a 3D arena as well, but you are right: 2D is perfectly fine for Tales, too.


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: Sirgin on August 10, 2008, 04:07:35 PM
Should the Guilty Gear, King of Fighters, and Street Fighter series use 3d arenas?
Doesn't that have a 3D version on the PS2?


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: Tondog on August 10, 2008, 08:31:20 PM
I tried the Vesperia demo and it's one of the first JRPGs I ever liked. Can't wait for the PS3 version.


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: Haoie on August 11, 2008, 01:39:01 AM
I love the Tales games. Which is pretty weird, since I've only played 2.

Those being Phantasia [SFC translated and GBA] and Eternia.

I really want Destiny, but, it's pretty much impossible to find here.


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: Cobra on August 11, 2008, 03:17:13 AM
That's more than me, I only ever played Tales of Phantasia on SNES. The graphics, audio and battle system were really excellent, probably the best I had ever seen for the SNES.


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: Darth Sidious on August 11, 2008, 04:58:52 AM
@Haoie
Well, 6 months ago, I was able to purchase Tales of Destiny...in Europe, that is. It only cost me 45 Euro, which is more than acceptable for such a rare game (the game was complete with box and manual, of course). Just try your luck on ebay, and you might be able to get your hands at a copy of the game for a nice price.
It's easier to find than a copy of the US version Tales of Destiny 2 / Tales of Eternia on PSX, though...thankfully, I got the PSP version. ^^


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: Sirgin on August 11, 2008, 05:03:17 AM
Saw Star Ocean: Till the end of time at the flea market yesterday, but it was priced at €30 and the guy wouldn't budge his price at all :( So I passed (already bought some other games, otherwise I might've taken it)


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: Antimind on August 11, 2008, 06:36:35 PM
I'm probably the resident Tales expert. FYI ToV is NOT going to be region free. I've already pre-ordered the Special Edition though. More than likely ToS2 is also going to have an anniversary/special edition. Might want to hold off on pre-ordering it for now.

I've loved the Tales series for years. I've actually been selling off my general game collection to put more money into Tales stuff. I run a Tales merch site too. Here's a bit of what's in my Tales collection. Note that I do have dupe trading cards for sale:

GAMES:
Tales of Abyss PS2/US
Tales of Abyss PS2/JAP
Tales of Destiny PSX/US
Tales of Destiny II PSX/US
Tales of Destiny 2 PS2/JAP
Tales of Eternia EUR/PSP
Tales of Eternia Premium Box JAP
Tales of Fandom Vol 1
Tales of Fandom Vol 1
Tales of Fandom v2 Luke
Tales of Fandom v2 Tear
Tales of Innocence
Tales of Legendia PS2/US
Tales of Legendia PS2/JAP
Tales of Phantasia SFC/JAP
Tales of Phantasia GBA/US
Tales of Phantasia PSP/JAP
Tales of Rebirth PS2/JAP
Tales of Rebirth PSP/JAP
Tales of Symphonia GC/US
Tales of Symphonia PS2/JAP
Tales of Tempest DS

Narikiri Dungeon
Narikiri Dungeon 2
Narikiri Dungeon 3
TOTW: Radiant Mythology US


STRAT GUIDES:
Narikiri Dungeon
Tales of Abyss
Tales of Destiny II (US)
Tales of Legendia
Tales of Symphonia US/JAPAN

ART BOOKS:
Tales of Abyss JAP
Tales of Legendia
Tales of Symphonia US/JAPAN

PROMO DISC:
Tales of Abyss Anniversary JAPAN
Tales of Legendia DVD/JAPAN
Tales of Phantasia Demo PSX/JAPAN
Tales of Rebirth Peach Pie DVD
Tales of Symphonia Bonus GC/JAPAN
Tales of Symphonia KOR JAP
ToTW Lemon Gummi DVD/JAPAN


MISC PROMO:
Tales of Abyss Art Cel
Tales of Abyss Tokunaga + Presea Head
Tales of Legendia Lanyard
Tales of Symphonia Litho EB + Gamestop
Tales of Symphonia Art Cell

PINS: 
Tales of Abyss Kotobukiya - complete set
Tales of Phantasia OVA - set of 4
Tales of Phantasia Kotobukiya - complete set
Tales of Symphonia Kotobukiya (complete set)
Tales of Symphonia 1" - from Gamestop employee, 4 pin set?

FIGURES:
Tales of Abyss One Coin - complete set & specials
Tales of Phantasia One Coin - complete set & specials
Tales of Phantasia One Coin Stone - Suzu, Chester, Arche
Tales of Symphonia One Coin - complete set & specials

PENCIL BOARDS:
1 Tales mix
2 Tales of Abyss
1 Tales of Eternia
1 Tales of Legendia
1 Tales of Rebirth
3 Tales of Symphonia

SOUNDTRACK:
Tales of Symphonia (Miya Records bootleg)

Idol Cards:
Tales of Phantasia - full set

TRADING CARDS:
Narikiri Dungeon - Complete Collection, Star & Rainbow Chapter
Tales of Abyss card binder - Frontier Works
Tales of Abyss - all 63 regular cards - Frontier Works
Tales of Abyss LE - all 72 regular cards - Frontier Works
Tales of Destiny - Epoch - full set
Tales of Destiny - Movic 2007 - all 72 regular cards
Tales of Destiny/Destiny 2 - FW - All regs
Tales of Eternia - Media Factory - full set
Tales of Eternia - Movic - full set
Tales of Eternia/Eternia Online - full set
Tales of Fandom Vol 1 - all 45 regular cards
Tales of Legendia - full set
Tales of My Shuffle - all "regular" series 1 cards
Tales of My Shuffle - starter set series 1
Tales of Phantasia - Epoch - full set
Tales of Phantasia - Movic - full set
Tales of Rebirth - Frontier Works - full set
Tales of Rebirth LE - full set
Tales of Symphonia LE full set & Yggdrasil promo - Frontier Works
Tales of Symphonia - Frontier Works - full set + all box cards
Tales of Symphonia Namco Contest - 2 full sets: 1 opened, 1 sealed

HORI MEMORY CARDS:
Tales of Abyss PS2
Tales of Destiny 2 PS2
Tales of Destiny 2 PS2
Tales of Legendia PS2
Tales of Symphonia PS2
Tales of Symphonia GC
Tales of Rebirth PS2

MANGA & NOVELIZATION:
All Tales of Symphonia on the market ie: 4 Koma, Anthologies, etc

POSTER:
Tales of Abyss Trading Clip Poster - full set of 22
Tales of Phantasia Mini-Poster Set
Tales of Symphonia US Promo

OVA:
Tales of Phantasia US -  Asian bootleg
Tales of Symphonia US -  Asian bootleg

STATIONARY:
1 Tales mix binsen
3 Tales of Abyss binsen
1 Tales of Destiny binsen
3 Tales of Destiny 2 binsen
1 Tales of Eternia mini notepad - Reid
1 Tales of Phantasia binsen
2 Tales of Rebirth binsen

UNIQUE:
Tales of Abyss Stickers
Tales of Destiny Cell Strap/Cleaner
Tales of Destiny Stamp Collection
Tales of Phantasia Pencil Case
Tales of Symphonia Phone Strap

PLUSHIES:
Yuan/ToS
Frings/ToA



If you're interested in translations, I have a few friends that are working on translating the Japanese releases to English. Throughhim actually makes patches while Eclisis does the YouTube thing:

Eclisis ToR Translation:
http://www.youtube.com/user/lanyn
-she also does some of the Peach Pie DVD stuff. She'll be getting to other things once she's done with what she's doing

Throughim's Patches:
http://zettaizero.wordpress.com/
- he's got plans for future releases. I can't say what they are as it isn't public knowledge. Just know that he's excellent at what he does.


If you want a good RPG to check out, pick up Soma Bringer for Nintendo DS. There's an open translation project going on. It's damn near complete and a pretty good game. http://somatrans.scribblewiki.com/Main_Page


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: Darth Sidious on August 12, 2008, 07:23:55 AM
@Antimind
Yeah, Soma Bringer does look promising - it's by Monolith, after all, and their story-telling abilities alone make me want to play this game (if I am not mistaken, Tetsuya Takahashi, the mind behind the Xenogears/Xenosaga universe, has been involved in the making of Soma Bringer as well). I just hope Nintendo will release the title at least stateside instead of simply churning out their own Wii-casual nonsense...perhaps it would have been better for us if Monolith had stayed with Namco or returned to Square...

Anyway, I have to admit that your Tales collection is plain AWESOME! ^^ I mean, you even got both Tales of Fandom games, both of which are nearly unplayable for non-Japanese speaking gamers such as myself...I think that's saying a lot. ^^ I noticed, however, that Tales of Destiny for PS2 or Tales of Destiny: Director's Cut are still missing from your collection, so I can only advise you to buy either of the 2 versions...if you liked the original Destiny, then you're gonna love this remake: it really is a remake that improves upon the original in every way imaginable, especially the battle system has gone from slow to the fastest paced Tales system ever.
It's also interesting to see that you almost have the complete Tales of the World series, except for Tales of the World: Summoner's Lineage, which I am going to pick up sooner or later, seeing as how there is a translation guide on gamefaqs, and the game itself is pretty cheap by now, too.

By the way, are you gonna pick up Tales of Hearts for the DS when it comes out in Japan later this year? Or are you gonna wait and see whether Namco is going to release at least this one in the US (after all, the CG artwork MIGHT suggest that Namco wants to appeal to a western audience, too...and if Vesperia and Symphonia 2 are doing well sales-wise, who knows...)? It's difficult to have hopes for this one after they surprisingly denied Innocence a US release...


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: Antimind on August 12, 2008, 08:53:04 AM
Actually I do have Summoner's Lineage as well as ToE Online. The Destiny remakes are low priority for me as they're common. Right now I'm more worried about rare merch. That list is just a bit of what's in my collection - not my full list. I'll be picking up ToH as soon as it's out. I'm not holding my breath to wait for a NA release that'll probably never come.

Soma Bringer is a hell of a lotta fun. Pick it up if you can. No point in waiting for releases that may never happen. Miss out on too many great games that way.


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: Sirgin on August 12, 2008, 11:09:34 AM
@Antimind: Do you play and collect stuff from other RPG series aswell or do you limit yourself to the Tales series only?


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: Antimind on August 12, 2008, 02:36:14 PM
Sirgin - I do play and collect for other RPGs as well. The Tales series is my favorite. I'm also a huge fan of the Dragon Slayer/Legend of Heroes series and Dragon Quest (of course!). There are pretty much only two series I dislike and stay away from: Final Fantasy and Phantasy Star. Sorry but they're way overrated.


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: Sirgin on August 12, 2008, 04:36:07 PM
Thanks for the answer. Don't have a game of the Dragon Slayer series, I'll look into it :) Dragon Quest is great indeed :D


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: Antimind on August 12, 2008, 05:38:08 PM
Sirgin - Dragon Slayer is a TG-16 title. Three of the games in the series were released for PSP under the Legend of Heroes name. Note that the PSP titles were released in a random order...lol Read the wiki to see what I'm talking about: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Heroes

Each is a good game in it's own right. If you're a fan of the SNES era turn-based RPGs you should enjoy the DS/LoH games. They start out slow but they're good.

A few other RPGs that are pretty good and underrated are Astonishia Story and Eternal Sonata. Tales series fans should enjoy Eternal Sonata ;) Baten Kaitos and the prequel (Gamecube) are also good games. Ys series too!


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: Haoie on August 13, 2008, 02:32:16 AM
I was just randomly thinking about the craziest Tales translation blunder ever.

How could they mess up and get 'ragnarok' as 'kangaroo'?!


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: Antimind on August 13, 2008, 03:03:58 AM
Perhaps they were on something? I've known translators to intake waaayy too much Red Bull/alchohol/drug of choice while pulling all-nighters...

Personally I think the worst Tales translation blunder is the DeJap ToP translation as a whole...lmfao ...Whoever did the English version didn't bother to properly translate the "useless chatter" and inserted colorful remarks instead. I dunno if they fixed it up since the version I used. It was years back. It was funny and sad at the same time.


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: Sirgin on August 13, 2008, 05:24:28 AM
Personally I think the worst Tales translation blunder is the DeJap ToP translation as a whole...lmfao ...Whoever did the English version didn't bother to properly translate the "useless chatter" and inserted colorful remarks instead. I dunno if they fixed it up since the version I used. It was years back. It was funny and sad at the same time.
I wonder why people would take the time to do that...a translation where parts are purposly changed doesn't help anyone, so you might aswell write nothing at all.


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: Shimra on August 13, 2008, 11:42:04 PM
Should the Guilty Gear, King of Fighters, and Street Fighter series use 3d arenas?
Doesn't that have a 3D version on the PS2?

Lol, yeah. But they went right back to 2d.

Oh wow, hey Laharl. I don't think I've ever talked to you but I loved your reviews. Never really see you post anymore.


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: Antimind on August 13, 2008, 11:46:50 PM
LOL... it's Laurel ;) Thanks for the props dude. I don't post much anymore because I'm just too busy. I've got too much going on between life, games, chatting with "real world" friends, and projects. Right now I'm heavy into checking out DS homebrew and making EDGE/CylcoDS skins.

Speaking of projects I have a Tales site that I've been neglecting. It's a Tales merch database:

http://members.shaw.ca/angelusproject

I have TONS of stuff to add to the site and tons of photos to add too. Checklists that need updated, all that jazz. I'm putting too much time into expanding my collection and no time into the site :(


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: Haoie on August 14, 2008, 12:57:14 AM
If someone has a screenshot of the kangaroo error, please post it.

It'd be great to see, if only for those who haven't encountered it yet.


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: Shimra on August 16, 2008, 05:50:43 PM
LOL... it's Laurel ;) Thanks for the props dude. I don't post much anymore because I'm just too busy. I've got too much going on between life, games, chatting with "real world" friends, and projects. Right now I'm heavy into checking out DS homebrew and making EDGE/CylcoDS skins.

Speaking of projects I have a Tales site that I've been neglecting. It's a Tales merch database:

http://members.shaw.ca/angelusproject

I have TONS of stuff to add to the site and tons of photos to add too. Checklists that need updated, all that jazz. I'm putting too much time into expanding my collection and no time into the site :(

Lol, I was thinking of Disgaea when I made that post. Sorry about that one lol. And that's awesome. I remember you had that Symphonia website back in the day. Is that new one and expanded version of the old one?


Title: Re: All about the "Tales of..." series
Post by: Antimind on August 16, 2008, 07:48:32 PM
Yes it is! I had quite a few requests from people on the Tales boards to bring back my old site. I worked hardcore on rebuilding it before I got burned out. Soooo many people submitted things - and I got so much new stuff...  I have another webspace account where I'll be adding nothing but doujinshi :x People asked to catalog it so I'll try. But there's just so much! The checklists I started because I need them to keep track of my stuff...lol I could put more out but first I need to get Office back on my pc. I store all my info in Access databases.