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Title: Hardest system to complete?
Post by: Dev1anc3 on January 18, 2007, 01:38:27 AM
Yeah, so I blantantly ripped off nester's topic (sorry nester...  :P) , but I figured this would be an interesting thread as well...

I'd have to give this one to the Atari 2600, and then the NES, and probably don't really have to explain why.

I'd have to say the Original Game Boy would be pretty hard as well,  just because it was no where near as popular as the NES, yet it had a long life cycle, and pretty large library of games. Plus finding Game Boy games CIB seems to happen alot less than finding games CIB for alot of other systems.

I regretfully don't have a Turbo Graphx 16 anymore, but I would imagine that would also be a difficult console to complete as well, because most people threw their cases and just kept the HU-Cards because they took up so little space.


Title: Re: Hardest system to complete?
Post by: Rejinx on January 18, 2007, 01:56:27 AM
I think PS1 would be crazy hard just because of the number of games.


Title: Re: Hardest system to complete?
Post by: Ghost Soldier on January 18, 2007, 08:30:15 AM
I'm going to say the Neo-Geo because prices alone would make it extremely difficult.


Title: Re: Hardest system to complete?
Post by: Tynstar on January 18, 2007, 09:06:19 AM
Neo Geo & 2600


Title: Re: Hardest system to complete?
Post by: OatBob on January 18, 2007, 05:40:21 PM
This would make a good poll methinks...

Atari 2600.  Every game sealed.  Do it!  Now!
just kidding  ::)

Ummm.... Playstation or Playstation 2 for shear volume of games.  The other one I think would be hard just to assemble a list for would be all the home pong consoles and all their clones.

An expensive and space consuming one would be arcade machines I guess.  That would be one heck of a game room though. :leo:

Of course, there is always some extra challenge building a collection from a different region, too.


Title: Re: Hardest system to complete?
Post by: Tondog on January 18, 2007, 07:30:39 PM
I'm gonna have to say either PS1, PS2, or CD-i.


Title: Re: Hardest system to complete?
Post by: Tynstar on January 18, 2007, 08:09:43 PM
I'm gonna have to say either PS1, PS2, or CD-i.

Volume doesn't mean it is hard.


Title: Re: Hardest system to complete?
Post by: ganonbanned on January 18, 2007, 08:26:44 PM
GB or neo geo systems


Title: Re: Hardest system to complete?
Post by: cverz2 on January 18, 2007, 09:00:35 PM
PS 1, PS 2 for number of games.

Neo Geo AES for costs.

GBA - Just Because I don't see it dying out anytime soon. And number of Games


Title: Re: Hardest system to complete?
Post by: Dev1anc3 on January 18, 2007, 09:05:58 PM
I'm gonna have to say either PS1, PS2, or CD-i.

Volume doesn't mean it is hard.

Indeed, most of the time when you find PS and PS2 games, they're usually complete, and though there are alot of rare/scare PS and PS2 titles I doubt many of them are as hard to get ahold of as some of the older boxed cartridge titles. Plus from what I've seen, alot of the PS titles go for close to nothing.

I recently got a Famicom Disk System, as some of you know, and I've discovered that collecting games for these things is very VERY frustrating. It only had about a two year life span, but having to sort through an enormous amount of bootlegs, and not being able to read Japanese, makes it pretty difficult.
Most of the Fami Disks you find are not complete, and only come as sleeve and game, and Nintendo had there own Disk Writing units put into stores in Japan, and had it set up to where you could copy over a game with a new one, which makes it even more difficult to get a genuine title. Some of the games were ONLY released on the Disk Writing units. Also the info on Famicom Disk system games is lacking to say the least. I'd say having a CIB FDS library would be a real feat.


Title: Re: Hardest system to complete?
Post by: nupoile on January 18, 2007, 09:08:29 PM
I'm going to have to rip off my own sarcastic post in the "easiest system" thread and say DOS games or just the PC in general. Normally I consider PC's completely different from "normal" game systems but OatBob threw out Pong clones and arcade machines...


Title: Re: Hardest system to complete?
Post by: wrldstrman on January 18, 2007, 11:50:06 PM
I think atari 2600 is hands down the hardest if you want the games complete... espicially if you think of air raid  as far as ive heard theres only one unkown person who maybe has a complete copy... neo geo  if you have the money it wouldnt be that hard to complete a collection...thing with the 2600   even if you have the cash to buy  it may take years and years  to try and track down some of the boxes and manuals


Title: Re: Hardest system to complete?
Post by: Tan on January 19, 2007, 12:05:28 AM
I'll throw the Vic-20 into this list as well, finding anything loose, new, complete, or even hardware and accessories is a chore in itself.


Title: Re: Hardest system to complete?
Post by: Tynstar on January 19, 2007, 02:07:12 AM
I think atari 2600 is hands down the hardest if you want the games complete... espicially if you think of air raid  as far as ive heard theres only one unkown person who maybe has a complete copy... neo geo  if you have the money it wouldnt be that hard to complete a collection...thing with the 2600   even if you have the cash to buy  it may take years and years  to try and track down some of the boxes and manuals

As far as I know no box or manual has been found. Then again some say Air raid is just a pirated game.


Title: Re: Hardest system to complete?
Post by: Tynstar on January 19, 2007, 02:10:14 AM
RDI Halcyon maybe.


Title: Re: Hardest system to complete?
Post by: Fuyukaze on January 19, 2007, 06:46:03 AM
I'm gonna have to say either PS1, PS2, or CD-i.

Volume doesn't mean it is hard.

Indeed, most of the time when you find PS and PS2 games, they're usually complete, and though there are alot of rare/scare PS and PS2 titles I doubt many of them are as hard to get ahold of as some of the older boxed cartridge titles. Plus from what I've seen, alot of the PS titles go for close to nothing.

I recently got a Famicom Disk System, as some of you know, and I've discovered that collecting games for these things is very VERY frustrating. It only had about a two year life span, but having to sort through an enormous amount of bootlegs, and not being able to read Japanese, makes it pretty difficult.
Most of the Fami Disks you find are not complete, and only come as sleeve and game, and Nintendo had there own Disk Writing units put into stores in Japan, and had it set up to where you could copy over a game with a new one, which makes it even more difficult to get a genuine title. Some of the games were ONLY released on the Disk Writing units. Also the info on Famicom Disk system games is lacking to say the least. I'd say having a CIB FDS library would be a real feat.
Your not kidding on this one.  The more I dig the more I begin to worry about getting into this system.  From what I've found there were less then 250 games released for it and they came in two colors (yellow and blue) with only 6 documented as being blue.  You look to have found a great deal more info on it then me though.  Being the Miho Nakayama fan that I am I should get the system if only for the game that has her on the cover, but one game is not easy to justify the purchase of two aditional systems.


Title: Re: Hardest system to complete?
Post by: Dev1anc3 on January 19, 2007, 11:13:52 AM
[Your not kidding on this one.  The more I dig the more I begin to worry about getting into this system.  From what I've found there were less then 250 games released for it and they came in two colors (yellow and blue) with only 6 documented as being blue.  You look to have found a great deal more info on it then me though.  Being the Miho Nakayama fan that I am I should get the system if only for the game that has her on the cover, but one game is not easy to justify the purchase of two aditional systems.

Yeah, I didn't know what I was getting myself into when I purchased one for sure. I got 38 games with it, and only one was complete, and 7 of them are blue. One of them being the title with Miho on a phone on the front cover, but it's not complete of course. I also have one black official Fami Disk that has "Super Mario" written on it, so there are black discs out there as well, yet I've never seen or heard anything about the black disks anywhere. The FDS I got didn't work, so I'm waiting on another to arrive, and then maybe I can figure out what some of these games are, and if they even match the titles on the front...   that is if they even work, as the disk are known to be erased very easily.


Title: Re: Hardest system to complete?
Post by: nupoile on January 19, 2007, 09:56:31 PM
RDI Halcyon maybe.

Man, I totaly thought of this one at work today. I was going to bring it up first. Sheesh.   :)


Title: Re: Hardest system to complete?
Post by: nester on February 06, 2007, 08:39:19 PM
Hmm, they all seem pretty hard to me. I guess it mostly depends on how much you want to spend. It seems that every system has a couple of really expensive games. I mean, Jaguar has a small library but I don't know if I'll ever be able to pay 100 dollars for Air Cars.


Title: Re: Hardest system to complete?
Post by: Tynstar on February 08, 2007, 11:10:26 AM
Hmm, they all seem pretty hard to me. I guess it mostly depends on how much you want to spend. It seems that every system has a couple of really expensive games. I mean, Jaguar has a small library but I don't know if I'll ever be able to pay 100 dollars for Air Cars.

Tower II, Iron Soldier II (I think on both of those) and Battle Sphere and Battle Sphere Gold.


Title: Re: Hardest system to complete?
Post by: nester on February 10, 2007, 12:01:06 PM
Well I'm not counting the post-Jaguar Jaguar releases. Then it really starts to get expensive. Although you can get 2 Battle Sphere Golds for the price of one PS3.


Title: Re: Hardest system to complete?
Post by: Tynstar on February 11, 2007, 01:00:39 PM
Are Iron Soldier II and Towers II post releases?


Title: Re: Hardest system to complete?
Post by: Kevincal on February 19, 2007, 01:26:32 AM
Neo Geo AES has gotta win this.  A bunch of games costing over $500...


Title: Re: Hardest system to complete?
Post by: DarthKur on March 04, 2007, 04:12:44 PM
I have to say the most difficult would be the Atari 2600. There's just so many super rare titles and like was previously pointed out above, even if you have money to burn you need to find them and then convince the current owner of it to sell. The really scarce ones come up available so rarely. Like the copy of Pepsi Invaders (Coke Wins) that just sold on Ebay for $1,500. I've seen repro's on there but never a proven original.
There's also a mint CIB copy of Video Life on there right now. Those are ultra rare and it's the first one like that I've ever seen. Anyone have the five grand for the "Buy It Now" that he's asking?   :speechless:  I sure don't.

Here's a link to it in case anyone wants to see what these look like:

http://cgi.ebay.com/VIDEO-LIFE-NEW-IN-BOX-Atari-2600-Rarity-10_W0QQitemZ170086546457QQihZ007QQcategoryZ4315QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Title: Re: Hardest system to complete?
Post by: Tynstar on March 04, 2007, 07:39:59 PM
That seller has some nice stuff in his collection. That Video Life is going for so much since it is NIB.


Title: Re: Hardest system to complete?
Post by: wrldstrman on March 05, 2007, 03:30:09 AM
although not as hard as the 2600  the nes isnt exactally easy to collect for..few nes items are harder to find then one would think..especially some of the boxes and manuals to common games prove to be very hard to track down


Title: Re: Hardest system to complete?
Post by: s1lence on March 29, 2007, 08:56:39 PM
I'm going to say Neo geo AES, the cost alone makes it tough.

The next I would say is TG-16, the games are hard to find in the wild and the cost of some of the games are crazy.

PS1 isn't that hard to collect for but its getting harder as most stores don't carry the games anymore.


Title: Re: Hardest system to complete?
Post by: shadowforte on June 13, 2007, 04:28:47 PM
I am going to have to say PS1-PS2.  I would love to have a complete PS2 collection, but I just don't see it happening anytime soon.


Title: Re: Hardest system to complete?
Post by: nester on June 14, 2007, 01:10:33 AM
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Are Iron Soldier II and Towers II post releases?

No, they made it in just under the wire, although all of those later Telegames releases are expensive. I was mostly refering to the Songbird Productions games and of course Battelsphere. They really bring up the overall price of a complete Jaguar collection.


Title: Re: Hardest system to complete?
Post by: atari_wizard on June 14, 2007, 08:26:04 AM
2600 for sure. It never gets boring collecting for this system, I'm still having a blast. =)


Title: Re: Hardest system to complete?
Post by: shadowforte on June 14, 2007, 10:48:49 AM
How many games are there in the US for the 2600?


Title: Re: Hardest system to complete?
Post by: Tynstar on June 14, 2007, 12:14:13 PM
How many games are there in the US for the 2600?

Not including variants 550-600.


Title: Re: Hardest system to complete?
Post by: shadowforte on June 14, 2007, 12:59:59 PM
Oh hmm thats not all that bad.


Title: Re: Hardest system to complete?
Post by: Tynstar on June 14, 2007, 03:31:04 PM
Oh hmm thats not all that bad.

Amount of games has nothing to do with how hard the systems is, IMO. CIB the 2600 has many games over 1k each. Hell loose you have many many games over 200.


Title: Re: Hardest system to complete?
Post by: shadowforte on June 14, 2007, 03:48:24 PM
Oh wow. Well it is a fun system to collect for me. While there might be does crazy priced games, you can beef up the collection for quite cheap.


Title: Re: Hardest system to complete?
Post by: Tan on June 14, 2007, 04:05:19 PM
The 2600 is also a variant nightmare. Some games has 5-6 variants a piece with different levels of rarity for each.


Title: Re: Hardest system to complete?
Post by: Tynstar on June 14, 2007, 06:01:27 PM
Oh wow. Well it is a fun system to collect for me. While there might be does crazy priced games, you can beef up the collection for quite cheap.

Oh I agree I have about 375 2600 games myself. Some classic games in that library.