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Title: What is this?!
Post by: OatBob on January 06, 2007, 10:56:39 AM
I was helping a friend clean out his house and he gave me this game cart.  It looks like a famicom cartridge and has the 60 pins.  He said its Korean and it doesn't have any katakana, and doesn't quite look like kanji. (I'm occidental, so I would not know)  It has writing on the front and also says "152 in 1".  It then lists all of them on the back side label.

I think its a bootleg because to my knowledge Nintendo didn't make any super-carts like this, and also it doesn't have any indication of being licensed by Nintendo.  The crooked label on the back supports this.  Nintendo just created its Korean division in 2006 too.

Does anyone have any knowledge of what this is, or what it says.  It would be nice to add to the RFGen game list.  I know its a unlicenced cart, but we also have listed Bleem! for Dreamcast (http://www.rfgeneration.com/cgi-bin/getinfo.pl?ID=U-071-S-00170-A&) and Tengen Tetris (http://www.rfgeneration.com/cgi-bin/getinfo.pl?ID=U-027-S-06670-A&), so they're no strangers here.  Please let me know what you think.


Title: Re: What is this?!
Post by: Tondog on January 06, 2007, 11:40:44 AM
I love how the sticker on the back is half assedly put on there.  Also, notice that the back sticker does not fit in the place where it is supposed to go. It is DEFINITELY a bootleg! As far as the language goes, I'm pretty darn sure that the wiriting on there is Hangul, which is sorta like the Korean version of Kanji. So, it would be pretty darn impossible someone like you or me to translate it if we know nothing about the language. It would be easier if it was Katakana because we could just look at a chart and go off of that. Next time I see you, I want to try and get some better pictures so I can email them to a Korean friend of mine who knows the language. Hopefully he can help us out with translating it.

How will you list it here if you know nothing about it other than it's a bootleg cartridge with 152 games of some sort?


Title: Re: What is this?!
Post by: Tynstar on January 06, 2007, 11:48:37 AM
We don't list bootlegs on the site.

Really cool find though.


Title: Re: What is this?!
Post by: Pop Culture Portal on January 06, 2007, 01:04:41 PM
Ah!  Multi-Carts!  Love 'em and hate 'em at the same time.

That is definitely a Famicom.  Funny thing about clones/pirates, the games listed on the cart aren't likely in the cart...kinda one of those selling tactics the pirate people use to get you to buy the cart...it may list a Mario game on the label or Mario may be pictured on the cart, but no Mario game(s) are actually in the cart.

Also, if you look closely, there's probably not 152 games on there.  Another selling tactic is to list games on the back of the cart multiple times.  For instance, Tetris may be listed as many as 5 times...it's the same game, but it raises the number of games "supposedly" on the cart.

There's a Famicom pirate out there that is listed as a 999,999-in-1 (or something close to it).  First, there weren't that many games made for the NES and the only way to say there are that many games on there is to list game(s) more than once.

So....I can't find any reference in anything I have for a 152-in-1.  It's very likely a Korean or Taiwan pirate.  The closest thing I can find in reference to a 152-in-1 is a 150-in-1.  Here's a list of the games on the 150-in-1 pirate, what little good it might do you.  And as you can see, there aren't 152 or 150 games on the cart:

1942
3D Block
5 Piece Chess
Adventure Island
Arkanoid
Baseball
Battle City
BB Car
Bomberman
Brush Roller
B-Wings
China Chess
Choujikuu Yousai: Macross
Circus Charlie
City Connection
Door Door
Dr. Mario
Duck Hunt
Excitebike
Exerion
F-1 Race
F-18 Race
Flipull
Formation Z
Frog River
Galaga: Demons of Death
Gradius
Gyrodine
Hogan's Alley
Joust
Legend of Kage
Lunar Ball
Magic Jewelry II
Magmax
Memory Pair
Ms. Pac-Man
New Type
Pacmania
Paperboy
Piano
Punch Sprite
Puzznic
Quarth
Road Fighter
Sky Destroyer
Spartan X
Star Soldier
Super Mario Bros.
Tetris
Tetris: Soviet Mind Game
Twin Bee
Wild Ball
Wild Gunman
Wrecking Crew
Xevious
Yie Ar Kung-Fu

Some of these titles were unlicensed to begin with.  Hope this helps a little!


Title: Re: What is this?!
Post by: Mike Leon on January 06, 2007, 01:50:08 PM
I would also like to see a bigger scan of the back of the cart. I do recognize some of the characters on the front of the cart as kanji characters, but that doesn't mean it's Japanese as many of the same Kanji are used in multiple asian languages.

There appears to be katakana on the back sticker. But I could be wrong, the resolution is too blurry.


Title: Re: What is this?!
Post by: Speedy_NES on January 06, 2007, 03:06:59 PM
If that's a Korean multicart, then it's a nice find ;)  Most multicarts, even aimed for Asian markets, tend to have English titles listed on the multicart to begin with...pretty cool to see that this one doesn't.

As PCP mentioned before me, multicarts do tend to have different contents than what is shown on the label.  However, from my personal experience, multicarts with an actual list on the back of the cartridge rather than a caution sticker/embossed image tend to not only contain the games listed, but also seem to have the most unique games when compared to other multicarts...so chances are high that this one has quite a few unique ones.  Lastly, I just want to mention that repetitive titles on multis are not always the same game...there are multis that have ten games listed as a single game, such as Tetris, but in reality each game is a different Tetris-like game (i.e. Tetris, Tetris 2, Hatris, 3D Block, and various Famicom-exclusive games similar to Tetris). 

Also, like Tynstar said, bootlegs are not added to the database.  Even though bootlegs are unlicensed games, unlicensed games are not always bootlegs.  The difference is that bootlegs infringe on copyrights, and unlicensed games with original software do not. 


Title: Re: What is this?!
Post by: OatBob on January 06, 2007, 07:24:27 PM
Some of these titles were unlicensed to begin with.  Hope this helps a little!

Also, like Tynstar said, bootlegs are not added to the database.  Even though bootlegs are unlicensed games, unlicensed games are not always bootlegs.  The difference is that bootlegs infringe on copyrights, and unlicensed games with original software do not. 

Okay, I gotcha on not listing bootlegs even if unlicensed titles can slide.  I'll try and find a scanner with a higher res pic of that back label.


Title: Re: What is this?!
Post by: Pop Culture Portal on January 07, 2007, 12:15:52 AM
Lastly, I just want to mention that repetitive titles on multis are not always the same game...there are multis that have ten games listed as a single game, such as Tetris, but in reality each game is a different Tetris-like game (i.e. Tetris, Tetris 2, Hatris, 3D Block, and various Famicom-exclusive games similar to Tetris).

Good point!


Title: Re: What is this?!
Post by: Fuyukaze on January 08, 2007, 01:16:20 AM
I'm not seeing anything that outright says it isnt kanji, but that doesnt realy matter as the source says it's korean and there's little reason to doubt the original source's information.  Better scans would be more helpfull as it would allow some form of translation at the very least.


Title: Re: What is this?!
Post by: OatBob on January 10, 2007, 12:13:09 PM
I found that SimplyNES (http://simplynes.emucamp.com/) has a pirated Famicom games (http://simplynes.emucamp.com/piratesw.html) section; however, this particular multicart doesn't seem to be in their collection.