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A few little tidbits for you.

I'm purchasing a 360 just for halo 3.  I got hooked on the first halo and have been at it ever since.  Not since doom and rott have I been this excited about a single game.

There's plenty more reasons to buy a 360 out there already.

Dead Rising
Oblivion
Gears of War (coming very soon)
Call of Duty 2 and 3 (coming soon)
DOA4
Battle for Middle Earth 2
GRAW

and 2007 is looking exceptional for the system with games like Mass Effect, Bioshock, Lost Planet, Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Fable 2, etc.

thats the main reason Im buying ones, but I also want oblivion, dead rising, gears of war, and call of duty 3

I want one for many many games.

Halo 3 i have to see how it ends.

I'll hopefully be buying a 360 within the next year

Am I the only one here who doesn't like Halo enough to get an xbox?

No.  I am against all FPS games on console.   Mouse and keyboard is flat out heads and tails above the dual joystick method.   Dreamcast came close with having an actualy keyboard and mouse, but you pretty much need a desk too, which most couches don't have. 

Tried Halo on the PC, and it isn't even a mediocre FPS.  Unreal Tournament, a very old game, blows it out of the water.  CS:S is absolutely amazing in comparison to Halo.

The FPS experience is simply a matter of personal preference.

I'm .ot into high-end PC games on the whole, and the idea of having to be confined to a desk to play them is a turn off. I do like Pogo, though, for those times when I'm into playing something light. I'll stick with consoles for the rest.

My expectations for Halo 3 keep going up, though, whenever I see something new and impressive coming out on the 360. For example, I'm hoping Gears of War and Call of Duty 3 live up to their hype; and if so, will raise the bar for Halo 3 to meet.

I think they should just combine Halo 3 with CoD 3. I'm tired of shooting Nazi's and I'm tired of shooting aliens, so why not make it interesting? Wouldn't it be awesome to use the M1 Garand to plug Nazi Aliens, and then swap over to the plasma sword to finish the job? Just imagine, Panzers in space!

Truthfully I'm tired of FPS games, Farcry was a nice change in scenery, and if it wasn't for those annoying Trodgent things messing it up that would be my favorite FPS. Instead, I just don't have one.

Tell me about it.  I havn't found a game better than the original Unreal Tournament for multiplayer FPS.  Counter Strike: Source is a great game, but it isn't the fast paced, continuous shoot em up that UT is.   Plus, everyone has it!

Wait I take that back. I forgot about America's Army, that's my favorite shooter, and free! But I have WoW now.

Absolutely! However, I do like Goldeneye and Perfect Dark over on N64. Black and Resistance Fall of Man also look good.

Halo is nothing we haven't seen before. It's a mishmash of various FPS games over the year. UT does kick Halo's ass, but I think Duke Nukem 3D totally destroys Halo and every FPS game ever made.

Speaking of DN3D, if you have the game for PC still, download the High Resolution Pack and start playing it again with updated graphics and better models and textures...
http://hrp.duke4.net/

Perfect Dark and Goldeneye are both single joystick FPSs, I only dislike the dual joystick FPSs, which is every modern console FPS. 
The other large issue I had with console FPSs is the resolution of gameplay.  With Time Splitters 2 it seemed like it was extremely hard to pick out a model from a long distance, whereas on a PC you could do so with great accuracy.   I think this issue is moot now with the current generation of consoles and HDTV capability.

I second that. I don't like playing FPS on my PC.

I have $25 down on Halo 3 Legendary already....and God knows when it will actually come out.....

If we're talking FPSs, the PC wins hands down.  My fav is the battlefield series.  I am still playing the mods for 1942 and 2142 is :o.   if I had to pick FPSs for consoles I would go with 007 games, but that is just because I get  :owned: everytime I play Halo 1 or 2.

My only hope is that they fix the balance on multiplayer gameplay.  It also sucks playing Halo 2 online (xbox connect (http://www.xbconnect.com)) and being trash talked by a bunch of 14 year old punks (unlike the kicka** teens that frequent this site).  Hopefully they can make it a bit more than run-n-gun.

I'm glad that they made the Spartans look more like the originals again. 

For those who haven't played the first two for more than 10 minutes, I recommend you play the game through before you judge it.  If you play it for just one thing, you'll most likely be sorely dissappointed.  Otherwise, look out for interesting architecture, in-game voice acting, and hippos.  Yes, hippos.  They're on the spent shotgun shell casings.

I used to stay away from the new consoles and the hype, but the Wii and 360 are really pushing my to buy new for some reason.  I guess they still are managing to make somewhat new stuff after all.  At least there likely won't be another game crash any time soon.

Here's a video of some players discussing some Halo3 multiplayer post-impressions.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Pdj_QZC_g5E&mode=related&search

that is going to be the biggest thing holding back microsoft and xbox.  xbox live is supposed to be the shining gem of features of the 360, but when i played freakin world championship poker on the original xbox, i got called every name in the book (win or lose).  there is no way that kindof gaming environment will be able to sell to a bigger market than it has now.

I only play with people I know. Or Capt Nintendo goes out and makes good friends then I join.

Looks like Halo 3 Legendary Edition has got a price increase...

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/03/16/halo-3-legendary-edition-to-command-a-legendary-130-pricetag/

 :o :o ::) ::) :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Oh well, whatever floats your boat. I think it makes more sense to get a DS Lite for $130 instead of just a singular game.

I thought you didn't care about Halo. 

Saw it on Joystiq, made me laugh, thought I'd share.

That sucks but I will still prolly get it.

Isn't this game out yet?

The only good thing I see coming from it is even shinier Red VS. Blue episodes. ;)

The standard copy is all I need. I rarely (if ever) buy the limited editions of any game.

"We're in the future! Things are very shiny here."

Shortly after i first got my Xbox, I traded Halo for Sega GT 2002. Never regretted it either, 'nuff said lol. Of course that doesn't mean I won't give Halo 3 a fair chance, and that Legendary edition kicks ass. I'd buy it, has to be one of the coolest game paraphenilia ideas I've ever seen.

Halo is a really good console first person shooter, but that's like being the smartest kid in the retarded class, or the hottest girl in Wal-mart.

Yeah making a shit ton of money sucks.

This argument of console vs PC FPS's has been going on for a long time. And it seems that there's no "high ground" for the console players to take. So I'll suggest this motto for console FPS fans when dealing with...let's say...PC FPS "snobs":  "Don't wrestle with pigs. You get dirty and the pigs enjoy it."

Note: This motto can also apply to dealing with fanboys.

Don't be so degrading to yourself phoenix.

I refuse the invitation to wrestle with you Leon. 

Oh come on it is fun!

Bump...

New Halo 3 video. An inside look at making the game:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6168806.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=newstop&tag=newstop;title;5


I like the bubble shield and trip mine.  :drool:

It's sad Halo will always overshadow UT.

Agreed.

Apples and Oranges. UT has never had a signifigant console presence in 8 years regardless of sequels and Halo for the PC isn't what it is on the Xbox.

The Unreal Championship games are actually very good, but they're also very hard!

Hopefully UT3 will be better balanced when it comes to consoles this fall.

Looks like Halo 3 took out dual-wielding? Gotta admit those grenades look sweet! Plus having the ability to record a game for pause/playback will be awesome! 

I enjoy Liandri Conflict much more than the Halo 1 or 2 on the Xbox. Haven't played UT on the PC for many years. I did enjoy some of the mods like Thievery and RocketArena.

Cool video.

I was up in the air about getting Halo 3. But after seeing some of the latest info and videos, I think I'll pick it up.

That makes me laugh. Why did you think you wouldn't get it? I can really care less about the multiplayer (other then co op) and I want it now.

Hey Phoenix and Den Halo 3 is going to have 4 player co op both on and offline. Might be old news but I thought i would let you know.

4player co-op? online and offline? SWEET! That leads me to believe that they'll also bring back 4-player split screen Slayer as well!...and system link!

You know why :hmm:

Of course I might wait until it is on the expert zone. It all depends on what is going on later this year.

4 player co op online and offline is what I heard from some big Halo 2 junkies.

If it is what I think it is don't worry I got you covered.

I've heard about the 4 player co-op too.  I really hope that's true.

I'm probably one of the last few who just tried Halo a week ago.  As a matter of fact, I hadn't even touched an Xbox controller until two weeks ago when I scored one at the local pawn shop.  I'm loving it so far, can't wait to try Halo 2, and eventually 3.  I watched the developer interview, and they are right when they say its 30 seconds of fun repeated over and over again.  Me <3 the Warthog.

The Halo 3 Beta begins tomorrow!

The release date is official...9/25/07!

Beta starts today. Woohoo!

I wonder how many of my PSU buddies will be glued to the Halo 3 beta?

Since it's only a 3 week beta, I'm guessing most if not all of them will be playing it. 8)

Maybe? I have a few friends who are going to split time. PSU has an event coming up on May 25th. (Operation Firebreak!)

If I had Crackdown, I probably would give the Halo 3 beta some time.

Rent it! Or better yet...buy it! It's worth it. 8)

If you want to download it Rick you can use my info from Crackdown. i don't really care to play the online matches.

I guess I had better start saving some bones, that over the top "Legendary Edition" is coming two months ahead of schedule. I could really care less about the game but damn do I ever need that mini helmet in my living room for a bookend to prop up my 360 games.  :nod:

Dork!

Me too.

On another note, all the beta players camping with their 360s had to wait an extra hour because it started late.  lol n00bs!!

I laugh at the legendary (priced) edition and the beta delay.

Ha ha ha.

Your just jealous because a helmet used for a bookend would be more useful than a PS3 right now.  ;)

PS3 would be a better bookend than that small little helmet.

So a PS3 is a good bookend...good to know. If I ever need a $600 bookend, I'll be sure to pick one up.

i thought the x-box was a bookend.

I laugh and the PS3 sales figures!

HAHAHA

It's a good bookend...

That can also help out with protein folding, play Resistance, Motorstorm, Calling All Cars, flOw, Virtua Fighter, ps2, ps1, and Blu Ray. Pretty useful for a bookend.

You know you may be onto something. They could even make it a dual function bookend and maybe make video games (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_games) for it as well. 

Feel free to email that wiki article to Sony so they have something to go on.  ;)

Don't forget that if its an upright type deal, it needs a blue stand (http://www.rfgeneration.com/PHP/gethwinfo.php?ID=U-072-H-00170-A&) also.

But first... isn't cramming running electronics on tight bookshelves generally a bad idea.  It would be poorly conductive to airflow and may lead to overheating.  Of course, for some of these newer consoles, overheating is a big concern already.

The Halo 3 Beta is sweet!

It's definitely going to be an adjustment regarding the 'X' button, though. Most of the X button actions that were used in Halo 2 are now relegated to the right and left bumpers.

The X is now used for equipment drops. And with the equipment they've put into the game it adds a LOT of new strategies.

No sword in the Beta levels I played, though...hmmm.
 

Here is a Halo 3 tidbit
[youtube=425,340]5rUndC70V54[/youtube]

That is awesome!

Ah Red VS. Blue. The only good part about Halo.

Funny stuff.

that is true

That is semi true..RvB ain't that funny. It's OK though.

Yeah, mildly amusing.

To a certain extent.

Why are you Sony fanboys still trolling in this thread? Aren't one of you late for delivering Kaz Harai's or Ken Kutaragi's next blowjob or something?

Am I not allowed to state my opinions?

No, but I think you're late for delivering Peter Moore's or Bill Gates' next blowjob.

sorry, I just got of my night job to help Moore pay to have that last tattoo removed.  It was worth it, though; great PR.

[img width=400 height=734]http://www.armchairempire.com/images/feature-articles/e3-2004/e3-2004-019.jpg[/img]

What a tool.

I just don't understand the hype. It's absolutely 100% insane how much this game is being worshiped.

I agree 100%, and that's why I have my current sig. This is the one of, if not the most hyped game since Daikatana.

anything useful to contribute to this thread...  anybody?

What could have been. (http://ps2.ign.com/articles/134/134552p1.html)

I have never heard of Daikatana. Hype is called advertising. What do you think it will be like when GTA4 in released? THE SAME FUCKING WAY!. It has nothing to do with Microsoft. It is like any major movie, book or game release. HYPE SELLS! So stop talking about who is blowing who. Phoenix go play your Xbox 360, Tondog you go play your roommates PS3 and be happy in your fanboy land. I understand Halo is not the best FPS of all time. Lots of CONSOLE gamers do notice the key word CONSOLE. For the Xbox haters or PC lovers that disagree that is fine but GET OVER IT.

As far as that link goes Master Chief looks lame and the gun looks completely stupid.

I wish the school year wasn't over so I could still mooch off my roomate for PS3 action. :(

Sorry for being somewhat an ass. It's just that Halo gets me all riled up because of the massive amount of crazy fandom around it and how the game sells millions upon millions of copies while original concepts like Okami make the developers shut down.

I hate over hype things as well and I agree with you about Okami but Halo type games are hat people want. If everyone stopped buying FPS's do you really think companies would still be making them? Halo revolutionized the way FPS's where played on a CONSOLE (again key word) online. Sure you can say Sega had Quake 3 on the DC but that was so new back then not many people played it.

I hate all the hype around GTA games each time they are released but I don't go around telling people to eat cock. Just play nice. Little jabs in fun are funny. Being mean is not. You know I poke fun of you all the time Tondog and you do teh same to me but it is all in fun no blow jobs involved. So please Phoenix, Tondog and Leon is ignore each other posts if it has to do with the PS3 or Xbox.

I see your point on Okami. That's on Capcom, though. They should've kept that studio open. All they had to do was release another version of Street Fighter 2 to help pay for it...maybe add Amaterasu as a playable character? Suddenly I see Amaterasu peeing on Ken and Ryu... :laugh:

Getting back on topic, I took Tynstar's advice and went back to playing my 360. I'm loving the new feature in H3 to be able to save and playback your multiplayer games. Wow! A great way to learn how to overcome one's noob-ness.

Millions of people would disagree with that statement. ;)

That's why I said it.

I figured as much ;)

I almost took the flamebait just to feed the troll :ninja:

But I didn't :laugh:

Yeah. I know what you're saying there. It really did change how FPS games were done on consoles and pretty much made the dual analog movement control scheme the norm for console FPS games. But of course, it didn't show people that FPS games could be done on consoles. I give that honor to either Perfect Dark or Goldeneye.

Or how about another Resident Evil remake? That would work as well. And, Amaterasu doing his duty on Ken and Ryu would be the most incredible thing ever.

Do I see a YouTube like service for recorded Halo 3 videos and an editing suite available for download to add dialogue and edit them? Oh yes I sure do.

I am not saying it is the first or best just changed the way it was done. Where Perfect Dark or Goldeneye the same type of two sticks or a stick and pad movement?

I think Medal of Honor for the PS1 helped the dual-stick movement a lot. An awesome game even now that spawned countless sequels and clones.

Yeah, MoH had it first.

So who will buy the Halo 3 Zune? ($246)

[img width=520 height=313]http://gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2007/05/IMG_8877.jpg[/img]
[img width=520 height=406]http://gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2007/05/halozunetop.jpg[/img]

LOL Zune. Looks good and all, but it's the freakin Zune. I wouldn't touch one of those with a 50 foot pole because it would probably infect me with DRM and I would only be able to repeat myself 3 times in 3 days. I apologize for the terrible joke.

However, I do really like how that Halo 3 edition looks.

Circuit City has a preorder offer, You get a 4' Master Chief wall graphic with Halo 3 preorder of Standard Edition or Limited Edition, but not with the Halo 3 Legendary Edition.
Link HERE (http://www.circuitcity.com/rpsm/oid/133664/rpem/ccd/genericContent.do?linkid=j13774608k31063&affiliateid=k31063&mid=).

[img width=181 height=400]http://www.circuitcity.com/image/Landing_Pages/JumpPages/052007_haloLG.jpg[/img]

ROFL.

Way to go Circuit City! Milk those hardcore fans dry by not offering it with the Legendary (priced) edition. Now the hardcore Haloers will have to buy one of the other editions in addition to the Legendary (priced) edition in order to get that wall graphic they oh so much want.

You know the hardcore fans will buy a copy to play and a second copy to keep sealed.

Yup. I bet they buy the (so called) Limited Edition to get that wall thing and to play and the Legendary (priced) to keep sealed.

Actually those really hardcore fans will probably buy all three versions of the game.

Oh, of course! Would they buy all three versions twice though? I think so.

That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

Maybe it sounds stupid to you because you are only a fan of Halo. The hardcore fans will probably buy all three versions of the game as well as the Zune pictured in post 96 of this thread.

I can see where they'd eventually get them if they were a collector (after significant price drops). But to pay full price for 3 versions of the same game, twice (as Tondog indicated) would be insane!

Doing the math, that would be $130 x 2 for Legendary, $70 x 2 for Limited Edition, and $60 x  2 for regular. $520 for the same game!

I've known people to buy an extra Xbox and some doubles on games for LAN play.  Of course, the only way to reasonably do this would be to buy used.

And the graphic novels, and the novels, and the shirts, and the Master Chief Helmet lunch box, etc. ;)

Hey, some people are that insane. I'm probably only describing about 1% or 2% of the Halo fan population, however. I at least hope some people have more sense than to buy all three editions.

I'd agree that 1%-2% would probably buy multiple copies in some combination. But my guess would be that 1 in a thousand (or less) would be as insane (not to mention as rich) as you describe.

Yup. I bet some of those same people have 2 PS3s sitting around.

Here's my summary of the Halo 3 Beta. First, general impressions. Second, map review. Third, Weapons review.

General Impressions:

I thought that graphically, they definitely did an excellent job with lighting, shadows, and the finer details that really make the environments and maps outstanding to participate in. The only disappointment was that it seemed that the character models were a little too similar to their Halo 2 counterparts.

Soundwise, they're solid. Weapon and equipment pickups all have their own unique sounds and when you hear certain weapons being fired from a distance, you can get a pretty good idea of what you're going to have to deal with. And speaking of sound from a distance, they seem to have nailed sound fading very well relative to the players position on the map.

Gameplay-wise, the controls are very tight and I'd have a hard time believing they'd need any tweaking at all. The main difference from Halo 2 that will take some getting used to is how the left and right bumpers in Halo 3 are now used for weapon pick-ups and reloading, and the X button is solely used for utilizing equipment. At least in the Beta this worked well, but I'm hoping that in the final product the X button will have more applications.

Map review:

Valhalla - I only played this map maybe 5 or 6 times, but I can say that it's incredibly well balanced and makes an excellent large map for team battles and Crazy King. It reminds me of Coagulation a lot (not appearance-wise) because of the bases on the 2 ends and the means of traversing large distances quickly (Coagulation had teleporters, Valhalla has "mancannon"s). There's a lot of hiding places to be found on the map along the side walls (good for you snipers...den) and weapon balance was fair, but sparsely distributed. It seems like if you get the banshee (team games only had this available at the time) you could get a decided advantage since there were no ghosts available to counteract their advantage from the skies.

Snowbound - Initially I didn't like this map, but after awhile found it to be very intriguing. The map is a small-to-midsize map (like Beaver Creek in Halo 2), but with a lot of underground tunnels and passageways from base to base. The interesting thing about it was that every "door" into the bases and out was a forcefield that you couldn't shoot into or out of. The only vehicle on the map was a ghost, which seemed to be balanced by the fact that if you're the one in the ghost you're the most likely to be the target of whomever is in the game. Lots of interesting tricks and positioning to be had on this one. The most interesting of which is that the guardians surround the perimeter of the map (represented by unmannable turrets). Which means that if you venture too far out beyond them, the "guardians" will shoot you down. Plenty of exploding barrels will also make this a challenge when players start getting into the intricacies of the map.

High Ground - This map is by far the most complex. A large outdoor map (not quite the size of Valhalla), somewhat comparable to Zanzibar in size but not at all in function. The vehicles on the map in the beta were somewhat useless. The Mongoose is basically a 1 or 2 person ATV with no weapons capability; however the passenger can fire, but that's a moot point in a game of Slayer. The lower end of the map is near the shore, and has some of the better weapon pickups along the way (especially a really nasty hiding spot for sniping...den), but the higher end has the "fortress" with some surprises of its own (brute shot, lots of dual wieldable weapons, and a detachable turret (really fun!)), along with a lot of twists, turns, and stairways on each side. The most interesting equipment that was available on this map is the gravity lift, which I can imagine being abused rather easily by someone with a sniper rifle to get to a spot no one else can reach. This map also seemed to have the greatest variety of weapons overall and was my favorite to play.

Weapons:

The most interesting and complex weapon to use is the Spartan Laser. But it's also the most satisfying. It has a scope, but it requires that you charge it up with the right trigger for about 3 seconds until it blasts on its own; but when it blasts, it incinerates EVERYTHING in its path. I can imagine it being used a lot like a mid-range sniper rifle.

The other interesting addition was the Brute Spiker. This dual-wieldable weapon reminded me of the Halo 2 Needler. Fast fire-power and when dual-wielded it's very deadly. Speaking of the Needler, it was changed to a single-wield weapon during the Beta, but is much more powerful than the Halo 2 version.

We also have  a new grenade...the spike grenade. It's a long grenade that stops where it lands and explodes in a shower of needles. A fun weapon for sure. And I think it will be interesting to see how players can utilize it effectively. The only thing about grenades now is that you can only carry up to 2 of each (of the 3) types; so if you max out, you can only have 6 instead of 8.

They brought back the Assault Rifle from Halo 1. This is now your default weapon instead of the SMG and is only single-wieldable.

Changes to other Halo 2 Weapons: Battle Rifle (significantly worse), Covenant Carbine (significantly better), Plasma Rifle (about the same), Plasma Pistol (somewhat worse...no auto-targeting), Rocket Launcher (somewhat worse...no lock on), Brute Shot (different...requires more accuracy since it shoots straighter and with more velocity), SMG (relatively better since it's got the largest ammo clip now), Sniper and Beam Rifle (same). And most notably, the Shotgun...they gave it a little less firepower up close, but also a little more firepower at medium distance; which imo balances it out just right.

The Sword and the Spartan Pistol were absent from the Beta, but I've read that they will be in the final version.

Notable additions are the equipments. 4 types were available in the beta (Bubble shield, gravity lift, trip mine, and energy drain). All have definite uses, but the least impressive was the bubble shield since someone can run into your bubble and melee you; also, you lose your radar while you're in it. If they don't improve on it before the game releases, I don't see people using it a whole lot.

All in all, I was very pleased with where they stood with the multiplayer beta, but have the feeling that this is just a taste of what we can expect on Sept. 25. Looking forward to it.

Anyone else have any observations after playing the Halo 3 Beta?

I haven't played it. I am waiting for the single play. I know I am lame.

That's funny...because I still haven't played all the way through the campaigns for either Halo 1 or Halo 2.

What are you waiting for ?

Yeah...That's weird.

Didn't play the Halo 3 BETA, and I expect that I'll stick to the campaign this time around when I buy the game. I just got sick of all of the idiots who played Halo 2.

So did I and one of them posted before me.  ;D :P

The multiplayer experience wasn't bad at all. The only time you have to deal with the occasional idiot is in the lobby. In a game of Slayer, you don't hear any of the trash talking or immature bullshit since the communicators are turned off in the game...a refreshing change.

For all of you Halo junkies out there, you can now play in style (http://www.slashgear.com/todd-mcfarlane-creates-special-halo-3-controllers-for-the-xbox-360-125713.php).  ;)


What do you think?

those are pretty cool capt

Todd McFarlane kicks ass. He is on a sports talk show here every Thursday and he does a great job on it. He is very knowledgeable in so many areas. He is also pretty damn funny.

The achievements list is out...unofficially.

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/achievements.php?gameID=274

OMG!!!!!

Check out the new character they just added to Halo 3.

 New Character (http://newhalocharacter.ytmnd.com/)

Oops, also check out the Halo 3 model Xbox 360!

http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/07/halo-3-themed-xbox-360-landing-in-september-for-400/

Snake could kick MC's ass.

But I kicked Snakes ass ;)

Then you could kick Master Chief's ass. :)

I seen the LE: Helmet last night, it's bigger than I thought, a bit heavier too. 1 million pre-orders, Sept./Oct. will be good to Microsoft.

Here's some interesting stats for all you Xbox haters:

http://kotaku.com/gaming/some-perspective/83-of-xbox-360-games-arent-fpss-288257.php

 :P

What about shooters in general? Or even games that aren't shooters that have sold over 3 million copies? :D

Interesting article. I would've thought that FPS's would be about as high as Sports and Action/Adventure, closer to 25%.

Flamethrower!

http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/14197/And-the-Coolest-Weapon-in-Halo-3-Is/

Doesn't matter. Halo is owned by probably 90% of X-Box owners and is the reason X-Box still exists.

And that's a good thing. Because if Xbox never existed, I probably would never have gotten back into videogaming like I did 3 1/2 yrs ago. Thanks Microsoft! 8)

Well let's see. Supposing that the sales numbers of Halo and Xbox are roughly accurate, then that means only 1 out of 4 Xbox owners have a copy of Halo and 1 in 3 have Halo 2. Hmm nope, even by any stretch of the imagination the numbers still don't make a majority. Even Smash Bros Melee and Mario Kart DD have higher attach rates than that. I'm a big fan of the Xbox and I care nothing for Halo. Ironically I do own Mario Kart DD though.

I actually traded my launch copy of Halo for Sega GT and never looked back. I'm one of those other 3/4 or 2/3 Dentists that don't recommend Colgate. ;)

Halo 3 has a limited edition Mountain Dew drink out.

I tried it today at work it was good :)

I amk probably going to pick up a few more bottles.

My point is that the article is stupid because Halo is the reason people put X-Box and FPS in the same thought bubble. When you think Halo you think X-Box, not so much so with other games.

Oatbob gave me a can of it. I thought it was alright, but too cough syrup tasting. I'll stick to the original.

Halo has a flavour? ???

Yeah, MS and Pepsi have a cross-promotional deal with a limited run flavour featuring the Master Chief on the side.

Mountain Dew Game Fuel
[img width=700 height=523]http://www.rfgeneration.com/images/collections/OatBob/MountainDewGameFuel_Halo3.JPG[/img]

Its pretty sweet for a soda and has 73mg of caffeine, nearly twice that of a regular can of Pepsi (38mg).  It does give a bit of a sugar rush.

All it gave me was a weird urge to play Halo and support all Microsoft related products...

That's just your subconscious trying to find an avenue for you to validate your desire for a 360 without turning your back on Sony. ;)

That's the mind control serum they put in there.

Hey, that "they" is where I'm working this summer!  Take it back.

It probably tastes better out of the 20 oz. bottle.

Which is what mine was from.
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I want those cans to never open and put somewhere in my room as a collectible :P

Btw am I like the only person who thinks that Halo is an extremely overrated franchise?

I have those two cans never filled and they are staying in my room as collectible..

Everyone seems to think that Halo is overrated; however, they're still good games.

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Also, I found the official website.

http://www.mountaindewgamefuel.com/

No. I totally agree with you. Completely and 100% overrated.

Not from what I see.

I'm not taking back the statement about the mind control serum. It's a fact and I'm out expose you.

 :sleeping: :sleeping:....What was that? :shrug:.... Oh, never mind, just Tondog spouting hate again. Back to :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping:

I want that.

The only funny thing I've learned since working there that goes into soda is Nitrogen to keep the soda from getting cloudy over time.

Here's an interesting read. Someone on a forum was composing his top list of games, and Halo 2 was on 39. So a smarter person changed what he said into this :D


39. failo 1.5 (Xbox/Best on PC... but still shit)

Thats right folks, its FAILO 1.5, the overrated sequel to the overrated FAILO (which infected the FPS genre with its regenerating health filth)! Master Queef is back and this time the game is more medicore then ever! With new innovative features such as dual wielding (HEY, THAT WAS NEVER DONE BEFORE!), random matchmaking (ANOTHER NEW FEATURE, IT CERTAINLY WASN'T IN WARCRAFT III!), and co-op play (Sven co-op in 1999? never heard of it)! The game is absolute SHIT compared to any real FPS (aka, PC FPS games), but because its on the xflop its fucking amazing!

While that post was funny, I have to say that the haters are out in force today.


Halo is a good game IMO.

Let's refrain from throwing "the flames" around about this. ok? :flamethrower:

The drink tastes like something...yet place it I cannot.

Behold!

The ending for Halo 3:  Halo 3 ending (http://halo3ending.ytmnd.com/)



Also, for those of you who missed it:

A new Halo 3 character:  New character (http://newhalocharacter.ytmnd.com/)



Enjoy!

Four player co-op confirmed.  Hell yeah!
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/halo3/news.html?sid=6176504

Thats very nice.

That's one of the main things I'm looking forward to is the 4 player co-op especially on legendary. 

MAP EDITOR! MAP EDITOR! MAP EDITOR!

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/815/815041p1.html

 :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

Sweet

it looks like its only moving items around, but they've built an entirely new type of game out of it where you can add, remove, and move items in real time while the rest of your team plays the game.

They mention a map editor at the start, and then they describe Forge as a separate map editing "game".

I really like the idea.  Imagine summoning a warthog above a rival players head.  squish.  Or to be extra cruel, move the ending destination of a warp point just past the edge of a cliff.  (Is this possible?)  The rival player would have to wait the duration of the fall AND  respawn, effectively keeping them occupied.

Oatbob, that's just evil...you're on my team. 8)

Hey, two new contests sponsored by Pontiac...

First to Play / First to Own
http://www.pontiac.com/halo3

The First to Play lets you play it on Sept. 24th ON AN IMAX SCREEN!  Of course, you have to be present at the locations in either New York, NY or Sacramento, CA to enter.

The First to Own contest puts a free copy of the game in your hands on September 24th.  One day early... big whoop.

Both give you a quick puzzle to solve, and then you're entered in the contest.  I do have to admit that playing on an IMAX would be cool, but with how many thousands of entries will be pounded into this one, all i can say is good luck!

whole boatload of tidbits from 1-up...

http://www.1up.com/do/minisite?cId=3161338

Just picked up the new Master Chief controller...

I used to think the pictures I've seen made it look ugly, but it isn't as bad in person.

This is pretty cool...

http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/14463/Master-Chief-Immortalized-in-Wax-at-Madame-Tussauds/

I just got back from Vegas, too, dammit! Hopefully it'll still be there next year. Mdme Tussauds is definitely a cool place to visit when you're in Vegas. I highly recommend it.

Looks like they've got a lot planned for Halo 3 week...

http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/14474/Unite-to-Fight-Halo-3-Launch-Week/

Wal-Mart has opened their own Halo 3 launch webpage (http://halo3.tma-walmart.com/?adid=1500000000000003256770&dest=123948), and well, they're doing a lot of extra stuff for fans out there.

stuff you can expect:

• Halo 3 dog-tag freebie
• checkout lanes opened for Halo 3 buyers, making for a quick getaway
• online utility to organize the wait with your friends

The online deal gets me.  Pretty much it asks where you live, and when you want to get in and out of the store.  It then sends an e-mail to friends that you list with a link to a flash dealie that talks them through your plans.

I would say you're better off just calling them yourself.  Then your team could coordinate roles... aka, two for the waiting and buying, and another parked at the front door for the getaway.  A fourth team member waiting at home keeping the 360 warm, tray opened, television and stereo on, and four wireless controllers fully charged in the appropriate places.  With three free days of Live Gold, you're gonna want to hit it quick.

Or, go to any store anywhere and pick up a copy.

demonstration of Forge (editor)
http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/123742/Halo_3_Forge_Map_Editor.html

hehe, I like the "flying carpet" idea.  Teamwork will certainly pay off with the Forge.

I think the Forge idea would be a blast in Slayer free-for-all matches. Then no one could bitch about not having the weapon/vehicle they wanted. 8)

I just downloaded the latest ViDoc video from XBL Marketplace and damn! The Forge is looking better and better. It may be the best map editing feature we've seen since Far Cry: Instincts and FC:IE! 8)

And the footage on Saved Films that they showed players crushing the opposition with the Gravity Hammer...sweet! They showed someone using it to "melee" a Wartog, flipping it, and then the player stuck a grenade on it to blow it up. :o

I expect some good community-made stuff to come out of it.  They have already mentioned baseball, and making towers out of energy canisters (lob a grenade for a big boom).  I can imagine bowling, but I'm sure there will be some crazy stuff thanks to this new tool.

Does anyone else remember the warthog jump videos from the first Halo?

Gravity guns are all the rage these days.

They were 1337. B33n 7#3r3 d0n3 7#@7

I had the Halo 3 360 in my hands but couldn't justify spending that much :-/
Doesn't matter much my Paypal card wouldn't even clear when i was going to by the Wii.

Yeah, I got a ton of crap too with something as simple as a personal check...

Fortunately my banks ATM is dangerously close to the store, so a return visit to pay in cash usually takes no time at all.

Oh, and a BIG reminder... in 12 hours, Best Buy is hosting another Free Live Gold dealie for three days...  I haven't ponied up for Gold myself yet, so I'm going to try and get all the multiplayer achievements before it closes.

Starts: 12:01AM  PDT 2007.09.25
Ends: 11:99PM PDT 2007.09.27

BIG PROBLEM with Halo 3.  Has anyone else bought the limited edition halo 3 and found the disc's loose inside the case.  Disc's and metal don't go good together.  So my brand new copy has scratches on the disc.  I plan on playing it tonight and returning it tomorrow for a new one.  You figured they would have put the game into a sleeve. 

Yeah, I heard about that problem on NeoGAF. Sucks for all you who are affected by it.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=192476

You figured they would have learned from past mistakes.  Wishing I bought the regular copy.

I heard about that too. I just picked up my LE and had them open it up on the spot. They replaced the game disk with a new one from the regular edition immediately. They also gave me a sleeve for it.

Too bad they did such a crappy job on the packaging.

But I still can't wait to try out the Forge! 8)

Both discs scratched ?  I'm hoping to find a L.E. not scratched or if they'll let me take from a regular edition.

^No. The bonus disk was perfect. There was only a very slight scratch on the game disk, but it was a scratch none the less.

They swapped the game disk for the regular version's. Apparantly, that's how they're taking care of the situation with the LE buyers.

The bonus disc in mine was scratched worse than the game disc. 

Latest update on the L.E. issue is major chain's like Wal-mart and K-mart are pulling copy's off the shelf.  My wife took mine back and tried to find a good L.E. with no luck.  So I got refunded the 10+ dollars and a regular edition Halo 3.  Microsoft CSR's are going to get an ear full from me tonight.  I'm going to see if I can get the L.E. packaging including the bonus disc.

I guess I'm lucky, then. My bonus disk was in perfect shape since it stayed in place in the packaging. Whoever designed the LE packaging should be forced to deal with all the complaints and replace any returns by hand...that'll teach 'em!  :evilhappy:

Thats rediculous.

I'm bidding on a Legendary copy now.

I want that damn helmet.

Yea i still don't have a 360. But why should that stop me from adding to the 360 games i already own?

Wow, they really should have planned the design of this package better.

I hope all you who got the Limited Edition are able to get this whole thing fixed without a problem.

Phoenix, great job demanding that they open it up on the spot there and see if the disc is scratched.

Thanks, man. I'm just glad I saw the article about it last night before I picked up my copy today.

Word on the Forge...freakin awesome!

Not only can you use it as an editor, but it acts as it's own game type.

In other words, you can compete against each other and if you're not around a weapon/item/vehicle that you want, you can make it spawn next to you immediately!...provided that there are $ available in the pool of money to do so.

And all players in the game have access to this pool of $, so once the $ are spent, items need to be deleted to get the $ back. So...if your opponent just spawned a tank and got in it, if you're in edit mode you can make it disappear!

Short of a full-blown, start-from-scratch map editor akin to Far Cry, this is outstanding in its own right and I'm sure will bring out a lot of fun and creative map variants! 8)