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I just picked up this game over the weekend and started playing it.  The hype surrounding this game was immense, and I have to say that it didn't disappoint.

I played for about 4 hours on Saturday and made my character a Dwarf Priest.  So far I'm level 4 and just starting soem of the quests.  I can't believe how massive the world is on this game!

Is anybody else from the board playing this game?  Maybe we could meet up sometime (after I level up a bit that is).

I really really really want to play WoW but can't bring myself to pay 14 a month to play it.

I know Evil Leon and Blissfulnoise play or at least played at some point. I'd play cept I don't always have interweb access in my room.

I play.
Have a 60 Undead Priest on Lightning's Blade.
When I picked up the game again recently, I started a Druid on Gul'Dan.

Souza - If you are just starting out, we would be happy to help you out if you join us on Gul'Dan.  We are on the Horde side.  

I did play, I've been inactive for about 3 months now.  60 Rogue - Undead, 49 Mage - Undead, various 20 - 30 somethings.

I'll probably start again once the expansion comes out.  

The game is wonderful, but be warned that once you hit 60, the game will grind the crap out of you just like every other MMO out there if you want to progress at all.

But, it's a great ride to 60, and even the grind isn't totally unenjoyable; it's something to think about though.

Oh that and Horde for Life.

I actually have someone that is starting up with me, so we are going to go through the game together.  We have a guy that has 5 or 6 alts that are all at level 60 to act as our protector if the need arises.

It looks like I came in at a good time.  The expansion is right around the corner, and it looks like there are alot of people starting up again right now.  It should give me some choices for parties.

Besides all you Horde fuckers can go away.  Aliance bitches.  |D

I pay for WoW and 2 EQ Accounts per month and I dont even play them hardly!  WoW was a nice switch over from playing EQ for 6 years.....No where near as big IMO as EQ, but still nice

EVE Online is where it's at.

Ditto

Sort of off topic here, but I desperatly need to add more RAM to my computer to play WoW.  Can anybody tell me where the best place is to get an upgrade from?  I went to CompUSA, but they wanted $60 for 256 MB which seemed a little high to me.

Anyone?

What speed ram?

www.newegg.com

That is all ye need to know.

www.newegg.com is great.  

Though if you are unsure of the type/speed of ram you need, http://www.crucial.com/ is a great source.  They will be able to tell you what exactly you need to get in order to match what you currently have, then you can get it for cheap at newegg.

New egg, hmmmm?  Alright I shall check them out.  I have no idea what speed RAM I need or anything else about it right now.  I'm going to check when I get home so hopefully I can be up and running by the weekend.  Thanks everybody!

Don't buy the wrong speed RAM, I did, and although i ended up making 5$ by reselling it on e-bay it wasn't worth the time spent.

Keep in mind, though, that RAM can run slower than its posted speed, it just can't run faster.  With RAM prices as they are today, it isn't too much of an investment to get RAM that is faster than you need, if you are unsure.  Though that little Crucial tool is handy when it comes to figuring out what speed you need.  

One more note, if you have a dual channel motherboard, you may gave to get all new RAM or suffer a speed decrease.  Information on dual channel RAM is redily available, so I will not post it here, but do a little research before you buy.

And WoW is very much worth $15 a month.  ($12 if you but it 3 at a time like I do.)  For how much time I play it, it's not really that much of an investment.  I don't collect games though.

Down with Alliance!

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If they charge 12-15 dollars a month then the game should be free.

The 12-15 goes to maintenance and paying for their bandwidth.  The game was $19.99 around here last weekend, and I think it still has a free month with it.  I'm sure they are making some money off of the monthly fee, but not that much.  It takes a ton of money to keep a game like this up and running.  

Either way, I'm not trying to sell it.

I am sure they are making a shit load of money of the monthly fees.

They have to be.... I am sure a portion of the fee does go to upkeep and what not.

At the rate they add new equipment (Each zone requires at least one high calibur server to run, with multiple for each instance and a massive infrastructure to keept it all together) and with how often they upgrade the old equipment, they may not be making as much as you think.  WoW has a ton of users, and I am sure they are making a lot of money on the venture, if they were't they wouldn't be in the business.  But Blizzard seems to be putting more effort and more money into keeping the gear behind the scenes up to date than any of the other MMORPGs I've seen/played.  

To say they're making a lot of money is putting it very mildly.  They turned the sinking ship that was Vivendi around.  When a single game is responsible for keeping a gigantic international media conglomerate afloat, that should tell you something.

Buying servers and paying for bandwith is cheap when compared to 5 million users paying ~$15 USD a month, not to mention the initial game purchase.  Give me a break.

Thats what I was going to say.  |D

Hit level 40 on my latest character.  Mounts are nice.

I'm almost at level 13!   |D

I gotta give credit to the horde that is on my server, because they have some balls.  It seems like 2-3 times a day they stage a raid on Goldshire and Stormwind.  They always get wiped out, but they at least make it tough.  They always seem to run into me on thier way to the raid.  Luckily I'm not any threat to them, so the usually just screw with me for a minute or two and then go on thier way.

In WoW can player vs player happen at any moment? If so that is a second reason for me not to play.

They have PVP servers and non PVP servers.

Yeah, it can happen but the higher level players normally don't screw with the lower level players.  If a level 60 kills a level 10, they get an unhonorable kill.  If you get enough unhonorable kills your faction will turn on you and you will be attacked on sight by everyone.

On all non-pvp servers, or PvE servers as their called (Player verses Environment) you can option to turn on your PvP flag.  If you turn your flag on, that means you can be attacked by anyone of the opposing faction at any time.  There are rules around when and how you can turn on your flag, but I don't play with pansies on those servers, so feel free to research on your own.

On PvP servers, there are Horde lands, Alliance lands, and Contested lands.  The "newbie" areas for each respective faction are not contested.  While in a land that's assigned to your faction, you cannot be attacked by the opposing faction unless you initiate combat first.  This means that while playing from levels 1 to 20ish, you don't have to do any PvP at all unless you want to, even on a PvP server.  But, if you help (heal, buff, etc) someone who is engaged in PvP, or initate combat yourself, you will be PvP flagged and can be killed.

In Contested lands, anyone can initiate PvP combat with anyone of the opposing faction at any time.  1 on 1, 20 on 1, 20 on 20, 100 on 100.  Whatever.

At level 13, Sauza12 must be picking fights with the Horde first otherwise they cannot do anything to him.  They can't train mobs on him either.  All they can do is get in his way or steal his kills if they want to be mean.  Contested lands become a viable option to level around level 16 or so, but you can stay out of them until your mid 20s if you'd like.

You also cannot fight members of your own faction unless you're in one specific spot in the game.

You can also duel members of your faction at any time, but you will not die from damage, you automatically yield at 1 hit point.  You can also duel members of the opposing faction, even on PvP servers.  That makes for interesting times since you cannot communicate to each other beyond simple emotes.

All servers feature Battlegrounds which pit factions against each other in Team PvP (20 on 20 for the first two and 40 on 40 for the last one).  There are three different Battlegrounds with different goals.  Warsong Gulch which is Capture the Flag, Arathi Basin which is King of the Hill (hold points on the map for periods of time), and Alterac Valley which has lots of smaller goals but ultimately you have to destroy the opposing faction's Headquarters.

Death in WoW via PvP is, more or less, meaningless.  You simply run back to your corpse and incur a very small durability hit on your gear which will cost gold to repair.  Nothing significant at all.  Dieing in a Battleground has no penalty what-so-ever.

World of Warcraft was designed to offer PvP options to the broadest of player bases.  It's harmless, fun, and can offer serious rewards if you invest time in it.  While getting ganked by 3 Rogues 20 levels higher than you while soloing may not be a great time, when boiled down it's pretty harmless and nowhere near as severe as PvP in say UO or Asheron's Call.  Again, you cannot lose any experience, stats, or items from death in WoW, PvP or otherwise.

This isn't accurate.  The only way to earn a dishonorable kill is to kill NPCs that "cons grey" to you (meaning you're 11+ levels greater than they are).  And at no point will you be attacked by NPCs or PCs of your own faction, regardless of dishonorable kills.  All a dishonorable kill does is take away honor from your earned honor for the week.  Nothing more, nothing less.

Killing another player, regardless of the level difference will never result in a dishonorable kill.  However, you will not get any honor for killing another player 11+ levels lower than you.  You'll just get a smile out of it for making that Night Elf suffer while he's trying to farm quest items in the Wetlands.

I think originally Blizzard intended for the honor system to be more robust, but it didn't pan out as they planned.  Instead, accruing honor allows you to go up in ranks similar to a military hierarchy and will allow you to purchase items from provisioners based off of your earned rank.  The actual system of how to earn rank is fairly complex and can require tremendous amounts of time in order to reach the upper echelons, but the rewards are definitely worth it.

Thanks for all the info blissfulnoise.

I could've sworn that I heard somewhere that killing players signifigantly lower than you counted as a dishonorable kill.  Eh, I probably confused that with the levels for NPC's.  I don't really take the time to read about the games I'm playing.  I just jump in and stumble my way through.  That's probably why I seem unable to chat properly.