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Title: NES cartridge variation Post by: shaggy on February 26, 2006, 04:14:48 AM I'm sure some of the people on this site know this but I bought The Early Years: King of Kings today and I noticed I already had it. Well I looked at the labels and they are totally different!! The other cartridge was called King of Kings: The Early Years. So I guess The Early Years: King of Kings needs to be added to the database and not erased from the system print out list. I'll try to post pictures sometime today. Anyone know about this? I assume the box and manual was different , too.
Title: Re: NES cartridge variation Post by: captain_nintendo on February 26, 2006, 04:42:28 AM It is just a variation.
;) Title: Re: NES cartridge variation Post by: captain_nintendo on February 26, 2006, 04:43:37 AM Oops,
I forgot, the title is actually the same. (same game too) Title: Re: NES cartridge variation Post by: Speedy_NES on February 26, 2006, 09:24:12 AM Quote I forgot, the title is actually the same. (same game too) Aren't the game versions different? Not sure if this is related to the label variant, though, but I do know that most of the Wisdom Tree games have varying software versions (shown on the titlescreen). Title: Re: NES cartridge variation Post by: Izret101 on February 27, 2006, 10:50:11 AM We already went over this....
atari_wizard posted the differencs between them... C'mon guys. Get with the program Title: Re: NES cartridge variation Post by: captain_nintendo on February 27, 2006, 11:14:45 AM Quote We already went over this.... atari_wizard posted the differencs between them... C'mon guys. Get with the program Link? Title: Re: NES cartridge variation Post by: Tynstar on February 27, 2006, 11:18:08 AM Quote Link? To the past? Title: Re: NES cartridge variation Post by: atari_wizard on February 27, 2006, 02:57:11 PM Quote Link? ;) http://www.rfgeneration.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=announce;action=display;num=1138533763 Title: Re: NES cartridge variation Post by: shaggy on February 28, 2006, 06:40:10 AM LOL. I forgot. I started that other topic. Both versions should be in the database though. The variation needs to be added.
Title: Re: NES cartridge variation Post by: Tynstar on February 28, 2006, 06:54:19 AM If the game play is the same then it needs to be one entry with label variation under the extra media section.
Title: Re: NES cartridge variation Post by: Speedy_NES on February 28, 2006, 07:10:36 AM Quote If the game play is the same then it needs to be one entry with label variation under the extra media section. Well, we could add it with a variation page, since the box is also different. Also, could somebody that has the blue label/box variant check whether the game version differs? The game version is displayed on the title screen after about 5-7 seconds, bottom middle. I checked my brown-label variant and it is Ver. 1.3. Title: Re: NES cartridge variation Post by: shaggy on February 28, 2006, 08:52:40 AM Quote If the game play is the same then it  needs to be one entry with label variation under the extra media section. Than why are Greatest Hits, etc. added to the database base?  The titles have basically the same label except Greatest Hits, etc added with the same exact gameplay.  Also, why are Zelda gray and gold cartridge both added?  Same exact game different color cart. Title: Re: NES cartridge variation Post by: Tynstar on February 28, 2006, 09:45:44 AM Quote Than why are Greatest Hits, etc. added to the database base? The titles have basically the same label except Greatest Hits, etc added with the same exact gameplay. Also, why are Zelda gray and gold cartridge both added? Same exact game different color cart. Greatest hits are added becuase some like Devil My Cry 3 and Fable have extra content Plus Greatest Hits are a series of games. I would be fine with switching Zelda. The problem with variants is the database would get to messy. Example, Combat for the Atari 2600 have 13-15 different variants :o Do we add all as a seperate entry? Have I told anyone today I HATE variants? Title: Re: NES cartridge variation Post by: Speedy_NES on February 28, 2006, 09:51:08 AM Quote Than why are Greatest Hits, etc. added to the database base? The titles have basically the same label except Greatest Hits, etc added with the same exact gameplay. Also, why are Zelda gray and gold cartridge both added? Same exact game different color cart. GH games and the Zelda rereleases have a completely different outfit (box, manual, cartridge/cd). I don't think Scott knew that this game has a different box, and when the only difference is the label, then it will always be added as a label variation in the extra media section. Seeing as how the King of King variants have different boxes as well, I think that we could add them as separate gamepages, but I can't confirm that just yet (manuals are the same for both versions). Title: Re: NES cartridge variation Post by: atari_wizard on February 28, 2006, 10:53:55 AM Good point everyone. I agree with everyone to a certain extent. As far as I know the 2 King of Kings are the same and I suppose I can double check when I get home.
I do think they should have two seperate entrys for this game. I consider this a major variation, as I collect for variations as well. Now Atari on the other hand, has several and I mean SEVERAL minor variations. Some examples may be ; bold text, no copyright, small text, large text, mis-spelled, no atari corp, copyright of different years and I can go on and on. I can see how minor variations can get ugly, but I don't think the NES has that much to worry about. A few variations I would think deserve a seperate slot are: King of Kings Both Zelda's *Which already are taken care of* Metroid The Untouchables ....I'm sure there are a few more, but these are major differences to me, as a "collector". under 3 screw games like wrecking crew, we could add a variation link for the 5 screw version. rather than making a whole new slot. Either way, I know this site is going in the right direction and we'll figure something out. Everyday this site gets better and better, so please keep the feedback coming. =) Title: Re: NES cartridge variation Post by: shaggy on February 28, 2006, 11:26:14 AM Quote Good point everyone. I agree with everyone to a certain extent. As far as I know the 2 King of Kings are the same and I suppose I can double check when I get home. I do think they should have two seperate entrys for this game. I consider this a major variation, as I collect for variations as well. Now Atari on the other hand, has several and I mean SEVERAL minor variations. Some examples may be ; bold text, no copyright, small text, large text, mis-spelled, no atari corp, copyright of different years and I can go on and on. I can see how minor variations can get ugly, but I don't think the NES has that much to worry about. A few variations I would think deserve a seperate slot are: King of Kings Both Zelda's *Which already are taken care of* Metroid The Untouchables ....I'm sure there are a few more, but these are major differences to me, as a "collector". under 3 screw games like wrecking crew, we could add a variation link for the 5 screw version. rather than making a whole new slot. Either way, I know this site is going in the right direction and we'll figure something out. Everyday this site gets better and better, so please keep the feedback coming. =) This was more of what I was getting at. Not like the millions of Atari variations or the NES screw variations. Also, added to the list would be the RBI baseball and Pac-man variations, etc. Title: Re: NES cartridge variation Post by: Tynstar on February 28, 2006, 11:36:40 AM Quote GH games and the Zelda rereleases have a completely different outfit (box, manual, cartridge/cd). I don't think Scott knew that this game has a different box, and when the only difference is the label, then it will always be added as a label variation in the extra media section. Seeing as how the King of King variants have different boxes as well, I think that we could add them as separate gamepages, but I can't confirm that just yet (manuals are the same for both versions). I knew it had a different but thats just a box variant. Unless it was part of teh NES Classic Series :laugh: :laugh: Title: Re: NES cartridge variation Post by: Izret101 on February 28, 2006, 03:47:12 PM The easiest way to get all these variations actually entered in a way that would be workable is if there was a complete list of them.
As for screw variations that could just be mentioned in the notes or Game Trivia section. Title: Re: NES cartridge variation Post by: atari_wizard on March 01, 2006, 03:41:19 AM Quote As for screw variations that could just be mentioned in the notes or Game Trivia section. That's what I was trying to say. :) Title: Re: NES cartridge variation Post by: shaggy on March 01, 2006, 05:03:22 AM Quote That's what I was trying to say. :) I totally agree! Variations like that can be put in the trivia. Title: Re: NES cartridge variation Post by: Tynstar on March 01, 2006, 06:18:05 AM I will support whatever we do with variants but I don't think they should be listed under there own page.
Title: Re: NES cartridge variation Post by: Izret101 on March 01, 2006, 10:36:01 AM Quote The easiest way to get all these variations actually entered in a way that would be workable is if there was a complete list of them. Anyone want to get started on this? If anyone has a decent sized list of NES variations to start us with that would be cool. The easiest way to get a list done quickly would be to just have a huge alphabetical list. Then have new titles get added in. Title: Re: NES cartridge variation Post by: Tynstar on March 01, 2006, 10:45:40 AM Quote Anyone want to get started on this? If anyone has a decent sized list of NES variations to start us with that would be cool. The easiest way to get a list done quickly would be to just have a huge alphabetical list. Then have new titles get added in. Contact Dave2236 over on DP. He once had a website all about NES variants. I think he even had scans. Plus he knows a lot about the screw "variants" If he doesn't respond to you in a week or so I will give him a call. Title: Re: NES cartridge variation Post by: atari_wizard on March 01, 2006, 10:46:15 AM I will start a fresh topic for this when I get home. =)
Title: Re: NES cartridge variation Post by: Izret101 on March 01, 2006, 10:51:39 AM Quote Contact Dave2236 over on DP. He once had a website all about NES variants. I think he even had scans. Plus he knows a lot about the screw "variants" If he doesn't respond to you in a week or so I will give him a call. Searching for his name now. Title: Re: NES cartridge variation Post by: Tynstar on March 01, 2006, 10:52:41 AM Quote Searching for his name now. I will ask if I see him on MSN but he doesnt get on that very often. Title: Re: NES cartridge variation Post by: Speedy_NES on March 01, 2006, 11:00:52 AM There's a thread on NES World with a list of confirmed screw variants...and confirmed 82 5-screw games!!!
Title: Re: NES cartridge variation Post by: Tynstar on March 01, 2006, 11:07:33 AM Am I the only one that thinks screw variants are a joke?
Title: Re: NES cartridge variation Post by: Izret101 on March 01, 2006, 11:08:26 AM Well if anyone has their own confirmed lists stick 'em up.
Other wise start asking permission from people who do have them :) No theivery. Title: Re: NES cartridge variation Post by: shaggy on March 01, 2006, 02:40:59 PM Quote Am I the only one that thinks screw variants are a joke? Screw variations? Yes, I think they are a joke. Picture variations? No I don't think they are a joke. Title: Re: NES cartridge variation Post by: Tynstar on March 01, 2006, 06:48:33 PM Quote Screw variations? Yes, I think they are a joke. Picture variations? No I don't think they are a joke. No one asked you so shut up Mr Variant! ;) |