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After Seibu Kaihatsu had to halt its operations, some of the development team left to join another studio known as MOSS. That team was still intent on carrying on the legacy they had built with the Raiden series of games, so they created Raiden III for the arcades in 2005, and subsequently for PlayStation 2. In North America particularly, this was a bit of a later release, as the PlayStation 3 was already out, and it wasn't met with the same warm reception. But the team soldiered on, and just 2 years later, released the much more well-received Raiden IV in arcades, and then just over a year later, it hit the Xbox 360 as a console exclusive. 6 years later, Raiden IV Overkill released on PlayStation 3 and PC, adding 2 new stages, allowing 3 ships to be playable from the start (instead of DLC, as with the 360 version), and including the new Overkill mechanic, which expanded the scoring. And in 2021, an updated version was released, called Raiden IV x Mikado in conjunction with the Mikado arcade chain in Japan, which features the Raiden IV Overkill game in its entirety, with a bonus soundtrack of live recorded music that are all covers of songs from the original game's release.

Despite humanity beating them back time and time again, The Crystals have invaded Earth once more. The VCD immediately launches a new model of the Raiden fighter, the Fighting Thunder ME-02 Kai, to stop the Crystals from taking over the Earth. With your upgraded Plasma Laser, you can choose how it's equipped, and take on the Crystal hordes one more time. Fight across the Earth, and into space, to free humanity from this scourge. Join the RF Generation Shmup Club in August 2022 as we play Raiden IV!

Participants:
MetalFRO
Addicted
Normatron
FauxMacho
SPM (via Discord)
Schlarp (via Discord)
Geriatric.Danmaku
Christapp76
BB (via Discord)

Just a heads up, if you want to participate via PC rather than console, you may want to make your purchase in short order, as Raiden IV Overkill is being delisted from Steam because of the rights moving over to someone else. I assume that goes for the listing on GOG as well, but I haven't verified that yet, since I only just found out.

I grabbed the Xbox 360 version from my local store yesterday, so I'm in for this.

I'm in and already have a score on discord.

Hey there Earth Humans... I'm (hopefully) in!

Steam PC version goes to great lengths to preserve your Scores and settings.   Even if you replace the entire computer!   Usually this is a nice benefit.   But actually works against our goals here.

With the GOG Installer version, you can remain detached from Cloud Saving.   And so set a brand new High Scores file.   Which I just did.  Rename the file "raiden setting.bin" in your Game folder\Save.   When you start playing again, your scores history will be gone.   

Now to rack up all new scores!   That's the easy part.   Racking up scores worthy of real competition?   That's hard.

Has anybody tried turning the game Player and Bomb Stocks up to 5?   Hopefully games with this adjustment get their own High Score page.   If everyone could just turn this up, and play against people playing with 3/3 stock, that WOULD be cheating.   Which usually I'm all in favor of.   But not this time, not for real competition.

Hi, can I get in on this?

Chris Tapp


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I pretty much always play with default settings, so I haven't messed with the life or bomb stock.


Absolutely!

Great thanks, when is the deadline for scores and thoughts?


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As always, it will be the end of the month for scores, and as soon as you can after the end of the month for closing thoughts. But feel free to post scores and thoughts as we go along, as we often use those in the podcast recordings!

Thanks, have you received your Astro city mini V yet? Got mine the other day, so disappointed! Input lag on the later release games is so bad😩 such a shame, the game list is simply amazing!


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I have received it, but haven't unboxed it yet, as I haven't had much time for it. Hoping to get to it soon, though.

I know I don't have the highest score, because there are a couple on the Discord who have bested me, but I'm still pretty happy with this so far.

Hello Earth Humans!!!

After a month of playing...   We have my highest scores!

It's clear that my actual Shmup skills are in decline.   About 4 years ago, my numbers were MUCH better.   Some of you in the Shmup Club are around my age.   If so... I have a thought:

DO ANYTHING YOU CAN TO STAY IN THE GAME.

Once we cross into September, I'm going to set Raiden IV to "Easy", and to 5 ships per credit.   Heck, might even go to "Very Easy".   There's no shame in accepting the inevitable.   

My final thoughts on the game:

Raiden 4 is one of my favourite shooters. It doesn't rely on any gimmicks, just great graphics, challenging gameplay and nice responsive controls.
I always found the original Raiden game to be a bit on the slow side, with it's ship movement, but in 4 the balance is just right. I could only make it to stage 3 this time around but will continue to play. I was a lot better playing this in my ps3 days!
The blue laser was my weapon of choice and preferred its power over the spread shot of the red power-up. I stayed away from the purple power-up. I found both versions too distracting to use while trying to dodge enemy bullets.
I know of people to complain about the constant movement and changing of the power-ups dropped in Raiden games but i like the risk-reward aspect this provides.
Overall this is my favourite in the series followed by Raiden fighters and Raiden 3. The version used was the physical ps4 game running on a ps5.
Overall a fantastic game and has a place in my top ten shooters of all time. Keep up the good work guys, Chris tapp76


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Original Arcade setting - 10,321,390


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Thank you both Geriatric.Danmaku and Christapp76 for your final thoughts! I will heartily agree with you Geriatric.Danmaku about doing what you can to stay in the game. I'm learning that at this point, shmups are as much about memorization and learning proper execution as they are about actually dodging and having that twitch movement skill. But there's still room for the latter to a degree. I made the point on the Raiden Fighters podcast episode that I need to start playing every day. Even if it's only 15-20 minutes I can spare, I need to play a game each day and keep myself sharp, and keep the game I'm focusing on more top of mind. The longer I go between play sessions, the worse I seem to do, and it just compounds the frustration.

We're recording again soon, so here's the question of the month:
What game do you find very difficult to the point of frustration, but you still feel compelled to keep playing?

My apologies for my communication dropping off in the 2nd half of the month. I know I missed the podcast, but for posterity thought I'd finally add my thoughts.
I really never got through the boss of Stage 3 on the first credit, my best score was around 14mil. I did a bit of practicing on it, but it's a lengthy boss and I never got it perfected. Not too surprising that Raiden IV felt a lot like the first Raiden given the mainline naming, but I didn't get bored of the first stage as much as I did with the original Raiden. But they both felt pretty narrow in terms of routing options.

In terms of the Summer of Raiden on a whole, I really enjoyed the theme, and really loved Raiden Fighters. I've heard the sequels are even better, so I'm interested in getting to Fighters II or Jet sometime.

You definitely missed getting in for the podcast, but thanks for sharing your thoughts anyway! I slept on Raiden Fighters WAY too long, so we'll have to try and squeeze one of the other Fighters games in sooner rather than later. And don't worry about dropping off - this is all about playing as much as you can or want to, and however/whenever you can participate is great. We're all busy adults with full lives, so it's not always possible to join in, or even participate much when we do.