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Title: I would like help identifying a Master System game. Post by: mumboking on October 07, 2015, 07:50:16 PM Years ago, I found a broken Master System cartridge laying in the road as I was walking home from school.
The label was worn off and the circuit board was (and still is) in several pieces (some pieces missing, including the contacts), so there's no way to properly insert it into a console. :'( I picked up as many pieces of it as I could find and took them home*. I recently came across the cartridge again and started to wonder what game it was. I found this list (http://www.smspower.org/Development/ROMPartNumbers) of ROM IDs, but the ROM I have (MPR-12546) isn't in the list. The chip above it is one of these: http://www.smspower.org/Development/SMSPagingChips#The3155365PagingChip Actually, y'know what? Here's a closer and better picture of the chips: Does anyone here know what game this was? ??? I know it wouldn't magically fix the cartridge, but it would be nice to know. *We've all done that here, right? ::) Title: Re: I would like help identifying a Master System game. Post by: Izret101 on October 07, 2015, 08:04:55 PM Well that little bit of remaining label means it was a short titled game.
That narrows it down some. Title: Re: I would like help identifying a Master System game. Post by: Shadow Kisuragi on October 07, 2015, 08:08:22 PM Well, if it helps, the chip above it was a mapper chip, and can be found in the following known cartridges:
Bubble Bobble Casino Games Chase HQ Galaxy Force Operation Wolf Wonder Boy III: The Dragon's Trap Chase HQ, Operation Wolf, and Wonder Boy III aren't documented on that site. Judging by the lack of text on the label, I'll go with the shortest name on that list, Chase HQ. EDIT: Or...not. The space there doesn't line up with the image from SegaRetro: [img width=700 height=393]http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll222/mumboking/Photos/Games/DSC_0694.jpg[/img] [img width=629 height=395]http://segaretro.org/images/2/22/ChaseHQ_SMS_EU_Cart.jpg[/img] Might be Wonder Boy III? Has the same coloring on the label: [img width=700 height=450]http://segaretro.org/images/thumb/a/a3/WonderBoyIII_SMS_EU_cart.jpg/800px-WonderBoyIII_SMS_EU_cart.jpg[/img] Title: Re: I would like help identifying a Master System game. Post by: mumboking on October 07, 2015, 08:19:12 PM Well that little bit of remaining label means it was a short titled game. That's true.That narrows it down some. Well, if it helps, the chip above it was a mapper chip, and can be found in the following known cartridges: There's also a possibility that it's not documented on there at all. :-\Might be Wonder Boy III? Has the same coloring on the label: Ehh... I don't think so, judging by the way the letters line up with what's left of the label. It is folded over a bit on the left... Closest so far though. :)[img width=256 height=164]http://segaretro.org/images/thumb/a/a3/WonderBoyIII_SMS_EU_cart.jpg/800px-WonderBoyIII_SMS_EU_cart.jpg[/img] Title: Re: I would like help identifying a Master System game. Post by: Shadow Kisuragi on October 07, 2015, 08:25:43 PM Well, here are the other images for comparison:
[img width=700 height=445]http://www.rfgeneration.com/images/games/E-031/gs/E-031-S-00840-B.jpg[/img] [img width=700 height=431]http://www.rfgeneration.com/images/games/E-031/gs/E-031-S-00380-A.jpg[/img] [img width=700 height=454]http://www.rfgeneration.com/images/games/E-031/gs/E-031-S-00440-B.jpg[/img] [img width=700 height=445]http://www.rfgeneration.com/images/games/E-031/gs/E-031-S-01450-B.jpg[/img] ...Maybe Galaxy Force? The other labels don't match the printed color. EDIT: Found a page with more info. Looks like the chip was manufactured between Altered Beast and Thunder Force II, which would put it as releasing in 1990. Title: Re: I would like help identifying a Master System game. Post by: mumboking on October 07, 2015, 08:33:48 PM Galaxy Force does seem to match very well! Apparently it's already identified as MPR-12566A in that list though. Variation?
Title: Re: I would like help identifying a Master System game. Post by: Shadow Kisuragi on October 07, 2015, 08:36:46 PM There can definitely be variations. Take a look in this list, just to see:
https://www.mikesarcade.com/cgi-bin/spies.cgi?action=url&type=info&page=SegaEPROMnumbers.txt Title: Re: I would like help identifying a Master System game. Post by: mumboking on October 07, 2015, 08:54:54 PM Those are arcade ROM numbers.
I thought I was onto something here, but these have dead links in them. :( http://www.smspower.org/forums/8420-5400SegaROMsDocumented http://www.smspower.org/forums/8052-5100SegaROMsDocumented Title: Re: I would like help identifying a Master System game. Post by: Shadow Kisuragi on October 07, 2015, 09:21:13 PM You can try sending Protoman on there a PM. Looks like he was the one that most recently updated that ROMs page.
Title: Re: I would like help identifying a Master System game. Post by: mumboking on October 07, 2015, 09:28:49 PM I'd rather not create an account on another forum just for this.
It may have to remain a mystery (but with a possible match). Title: Re: I would like help identifying a Master System game. Post by: Shadow Kisuragi on October 07, 2015, 09:37:31 PM You could always dump some Galaxy Force ROMs online and see... ;D
Title: Re: I would like help identifying a Master System game. Post by: mumboking on October 07, 2015, 09:46:01 PM I highly doubt that would give me the MPR numbers. It'd just be called something like "Galaxy Force (E)[!].bin".
Otherwise, that would be a good idea. :P Title: Re: I would like help identifying a Master System game. Post by: Shadow Kisuragi on October 07, 2015, 09:57:30 PM ...who said that's a proper ROM dump? It's just a ROM image - you'd still have to dump the image.
Title: Re: I would like help identifying a Master System game. Post by: mumboking on October 07, 2015, 10:00:24 PM Wait... Are you suggesting I dump the ROM contents myself? If so, I don't have the equipment or knowlege to do so. :(
I found another game that uses the same mapper: "Spellcaster (http://dreamjam.co.uk/emuviews/img/40fbc6d3f106a.jpg)" Title: Re: I would like help identifying a Master System game. Post by: Shadow Kisuragi on October 07, 2015, 10:08:44 PM Wrong color label:
[img width=700 height=450]http://www.rfgeneration.com/images/games/E-031/gs/E-031-S-02020-A.jpg[/img] MPR-12532-T Title: Re: I would like help identifying a Master System game. Post by: mumboking on October 07, 2015, 10:25:25 PM Interesting thing (http://www.smspower.org/forums/6760-SegaROMPartNumbersUpdate#31684) this person has thought of:
Quote from: Memblers on SMS Power I think the 4-digit code is year/week. 9141FP would be 1991, week 41. Stuff beyond that probably shows which chip fab made it (assuming the company has several). As far as programmable roms go, I mean. If this is true (it does seem to work for a few games I checked), then this means the game I'm trying to identify was released in or before 1989 (possibly 1990). That narrows it down a little bit more.EDIT: Well whaddya know? Galaxy Force was from 1989... Then again, so was Chase HQ, Casino Games and Wonder Boy III. |