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Title: Windows 10
Post by: techwizard on August 06, 2015, 08:22:29 PM
I don't think i've seen anything about windows 10 on here yet, have many of you tried it? i just installed it before work and had some time to tinker a bit before leaving. overall my first impression is very positive, it seems to perform well even on my nearly 6 year old PC and i like the new look.

some gripes with it that may work themselves out as i get more time to explore the settings. anyone have a solution to any of these?:

 - there seems to be duplicate settings for various things...i'm not sure if it's related to upgrading from 7? it has a very "windows 7" looking Control Panel with very unchanged looking wizards and dialogue boxes, but then there's also a bunch of new windows 10 style settings in a completely different area. navigating to the new settings screen isn't straight forward unless you go indirectly to it by right-clicking and hitting settings on something specific. this could just be a case of not wrapping my head around the new layout but at the moment i'm confused by this and will have to do some more research.

 - need to find a way to sort the "all apps" section of the start menu by something other than A - Z, i prefer folders seperated from the standalone program launchers.

 - i like the search box next to the start button but not that it seems to force you to use Bing, will have to find out a way to change that...even a registry setting wouldn't bother me that much, but if i can't change it i'll have to remove the bar if possible.

 - youtube videos are all giving me errors and causing things to "twitch" when i load youtube in Microsoft Edge...anyone else getting that? Chrome works just fine so i switched back but i'd like to give Edge a chance before dumping it for old favourites right away.

that's all i've got for problems off the very top of my head, i'm sure there were other things though. of course i have many PROs too, but the cons are something i'm more interested in discussing as i'd like to find fixes for them.


Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: mumboking on August 06, 2015, 08:44:01 PM
I don't use Windows 10, but I did try the Technical Preview.

1: Yeah, some things are in different locations. The Control Panel and the Settings app do contain some duplicated settings. I wish they hadn't moved some of the settings to the Settings app. I much prefer the W7 style Control Panel.

2: I don't believe that's possible with the current options.

3: Removing the bar is possible. Right click the task bar > Search > Disabled. As for changing the search... I don't know. Maybe it's tied to Edge's search engine (Which you can find instructions to change that to Google (https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/464?hl=en))

4: I haven't tried using Edge for anything other than downloading Firefox. :P


Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: techwizard on August 07, 2015, 12:56:26 AM
I don't use Windows 10, but I did try the Technical Preview.

1: Yeah, some things are in different locations. The Control Panel and the Settings app do contain some duplicated settings. I wish they hadn't moved some of the settings to the Settings app. I much prefer the W7 style Control Panel.

2: I don't believe that's possible with the current options.

3: Removing the bar is possible. Right click the task bar > Search > Disabled. As for changing the search... I don't know. Maybe it's tied to Edge's search engine (Which you can find instructions to change that to Google (https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/464?hl=en))

4: I haven't tried using Edge for anything other than downloading Firefox. :P

thanks for the tips! i actually really enjoy the new settings app so far, and i find the control panel feels a bit tacked on as it's out of place when compared with the feel of everything else. i wish they had gone the extra mile and integrated all the control panel settings directly into the new settings app. now if we were to lose any options by losing the control panel, then i'd be upset, but what's there in settings seems just as detailed as most of what you can find in control panel, and there's no reason the "advanced" buttons couldn't be used to show even more detailed options.

i managed to actually watch a youtube video in Edge earlier, but it was still pretty glitchy. at least chrome works :P


Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: mumboking on August 07, 2015, 01:15:25 AM
thanks for the tips! i actually really enjoy the new settings app so far, and i find the control panel feels a bit tacked on as it's out of place when compared with the feel of everything else. i wish they had gone the extra mile and integrated all the control panel settings directly into the new settings app.
I just prefer the classic Control Panel. The Settings app is just too "Ooh touch screen friendly, make everything big!". I use a desktop PC without touch capabilities. I don't want huge buttons everywhere. ::)

i managed to actually watch a youtube video in Edge earlier, but it was still pretty glitchy. at least chrome works :P
Have you tried making sure your graphics drivers are up to date?


Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Gamer4Lyfe on August 07, 2015, 05:00:58 AM
I have upgraded two machines to Windows 10 at home.  Dell laptop updated flawlessly, my main PC killed the wireless Logitech keyboard/mouse but was easy to fix there, just pointed to a different driver and Windows took care of the rest.  My graphics driver (ATI) re-enabled EDID which for some reason restricted my monitor to resolutions that were not supported.  Once that was disabled I could manually set resolution maximum and all problems were resolved.

Overally the upgrade was painless.


Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Izret101 on August 07, 2015, 07:35:06 AM
Dat invasion of privacy doe.

EDIT
I will be upgrading anyways. I have a year to grab it "free" right?

Also if someone can PM me deets I need to roll back from 8.1 to 8 briefly. Since I bought the download for 8 instead of a DVD I can't track down my info :-/


Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Shadow Kisuragi on August 07, 2015, 08:42:10 AM
Don't forget to grab that DLC that's Windows 8 only while you're at it.


Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: bombatomba on August 07, 2015, 09:05:37 AM
I like Windows 10, though I have not upgraded my gaming rig.  Probably won't either.

If you haven't done so already I would recommend tweaking all of the Windows privacy settings (press the "Windows" key and type, "Privacy").  Also, you can also turn off the Windows 10 "torrent" feature from within Windows Update:

Press the "Windows" key >>> type in "Windows Update" >>> click on "Advanced Windows update options" >>> click on "Choose how updates are delivered" >>> toggle the slider either on or off.

Note, if you happen to have other Windows 10 computers in your own network you can leave the feature on to share updates between those computers only.  Just change the radio button from "PCs  on my local network, and PCs on the Internet" to just "PCs on my local network" though keep in mind this will mean a lot more "Windows chatter" within your local network (in addition to the normal "Windows chatter").


Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: techwizard on August 07, 2015, 11:34:44 AM
@izret you can disable all the privacy invading things during initial setup, there's a very fine print advanced settings button (might be worded differently). or you can turn them off later from control panel/settings app.

@bombatomba thanks for the tip about windows update, i didn't even know that was a feature yet. set mine to use it on local pcs only!


Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: Addicted on August 07, 2015, 12:23:27 PM
I tried some Xbox One streaming last night. It seemed to work okay.

I'm not a fan of having mobile games aka Candy Crush Saga installed by default though.



Title: Re: Windows 10
Post by: techwizard on August 08, 2015, 01:24:45 PM
I tried some Xbox One streaming last night. It seemed to work okay.

I'm not a fan of having mobile games aka Candy Crush Saga installed by default though.

agreed that's a little dumb, but at least they can be removed.