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Title: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Disposed Hero on May 27, 2015, 02:23:20 PM [img width=620 height=349]http://www.destructoid.com/ul/user/1/13398-281948-Rockman2jpg-noscale.jpg[/img] We're playing Mega Man 2 & 3. Step into the shoes of Mega Man and set out to defeat Dr. Wily and his hordes of Robot Masters in these two classic games for the NES! Platforms NES PS2, GC, Xbox (via Mega Man Anniversary Collection) Virtual Console Participants Disposed Hero Duke.Togo Ikariniku JerryGreenwood MetalFRO Neo RetroRage shaggy singlebanana Checkpoints No checkpoints for this playthrough. Since we're all probably at different skill levels with these games and there's really nothing to spoil story-wise, just play at your own pace and feel free to discuss the games freely. Achievements 1. Complete Mega Man 2 on 'Difficult' setting 2. Complete Mega Man 2 using only the Mega Buster 3. Complete Mega Man 3 using only the Mega Buster 4. Complete Mega Man 2 without using an E-tank 5. Complete Mega Man 3 without using an E-tank Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Duke.Togo on May 27, 2015, 05:04:55 PM In it to win it.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: MetalFRO on May 27, 2015, 05:13:48 PM Count me in on this one.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Ikariniku on May 27, 2015, 05:37:46 PM I totally borked the Beyond Oasis playthrough, but I'm confident I can bring it for Mega Man (Super Fighting Robot).
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: SirPsycho on May 27, 2015, 08:00:29 PM Hey I just bought a PS2 copy of the Megaman Anniversary Collection! But, I'll have to sit this out.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: singlebanana on May 27, 2015, 09:03:34 PM Put the Naner down for these two.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: singlebanana on May 27, 2015, 09:04:56 PM I totally borked the Beyond Oasis playthrough, but I'm confident I can bring it for Mega Man (Super Fighting Robot). Uh yeah, we all pretty much borked that one. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: JerryGreenwood on May 29, 2015, 01:26:46 PM I borked the Shining Force playthrough. I almost got it a few times, but I bought other fun stuff instead.
Sign me up for this one though! Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: SirPsycho on May 29, 2015, 01:37:34 PM I totally borked the Beyond Oasis playthrough, but I'm confident I can bring it for Mega Man (Super Fighting Robot). Uh yeah, we all pretty much borked that one. Except me, but I played a month before everybody else. Many had problems with the battle system, and I missed the messages before I could say "Mix jump attacks in with your combos". I was hardly ever touched that way. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Ikariniku on May 31, 2015, 04:16:24 PM I thought it was June 1 today, so I logged some serious Mega Man 2 time today. I hope no one minds if I talk about it.
I started the day playing Mega Man 2 on the PS2 Mega Man Anniversary Collection. I didn't like the emulation very much. The sound mix, especially, bothered me. And I couldn't really get used to using the PS2 controller. So, I took a picture of my password with my phone and played on my Retron 5 whose emulation I quite like. No save states were used. However, they were hardly necessary. When I play Mega Man 2, I always hit a wall at Air Man, who I tackle third. I beat my head against Air Man unsuccessfully for a while on the Retron, but then I wanted to watch something on my HDTV, so I switched to original hardware on a good ol' CRT. Well, an AV Famicom with an adapter, but still. Maybe the Retro Gaming Spirits looked favorably on my setup, because very soon after starting up, I was past Air Man and chewing up the robot masters. WIth only Bubble Man and Heat Man between me and Wily, I realized my date confusion and decided to wait until tomorrow before plunging ahead any further. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: shaggy on May 31, 2015, 06:51:34 PM I will try to get in on this, I'm still trying to finish Shining Force. I have to go find either my NES carts or the Gamecube anniversary collection.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: singlebanana on May 31, 2015, 07:01:01 PM I started playing Mega Man 2 today and ran through all the bosses like a champ. For Air Man, I just Mega Man's normal shooter. When he throws out the tornadoes, if you can, run forward and jump over the first one and keep firing as you are pushed back. He goes down pretty quick.
I'd like to talk about level routes people use, but I may save that for next week.........unless you follow me on Twitter. :D Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: RetroRage on May 31, 2015, 07:11:19 PM ohhh yeah. Let's do it
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Disposed Hero on May 31, 2015, 08:36:37 PM Cool, not that I'm surprised, but I'm glad to see a lot of people signing up for this one. Also glad to see RetroRage returning to the community playthroughs! :)
I just updated the OP with the 'checkpoint', but just feel free to play these games as you please. I know some of you can probably blow through these games in one sitting, while others may struggle with some parts. Feel free to discuss the games freely and share all of your tips and tricks! Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: shaggy on May 31, 2015, 08:39:55 PM Add a spoiler on the first post with the preferred boss run through. :)
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Disposed Hero on May 31, 2015, 08:45:13 PM Add a spoiler on the first post with the preferred boss run through. :) Good idea! I might have to let Rich handle that one. I'm kind of a noob when it comes to Mega Man. :embarrassed: Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: singlebanana on May 31, 2015, 08:48:30 PM Add a spoiler on the first post with the preferred boss run through. :) This varies per player, but I will post my preferred route as a spoiler tomorrow. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: shaggy on May 31, 2015, 09:06:43 PM Of course it changes from player to player but there is a route in every MM game where the "correct" progression involves getting the weapon from the boss for its use on the next boss that is weak against that weapon.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: singlebanana on May 31, 2015, 09:11:03 PM Not exactly so in MM2, there can be slight variations. Not every weapon has it's best counterpart. Some are best used more than once.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: shaggy on May 31, 2015, 09:49:32 PM Not exactly so in MM2, there can be slight variations. Not every weapon has it's best counterpart. Some are best used more than once. You do have me there about MM2. If I recall correctly, the Metal Blade is used multiple times. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: singlebanana on June 01, 2015, 06:26:07 AM Not exactly so in MM2, there can be slight variations. Not every weapon has it's best counterpart. Some are best used more than once. You do have me there about MM2. If I recall correctly, the Metal Blade is used multiple times. Yep, the Metal Blade is used a few times. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: singlebanana on June 01, 2015, 01:26:37 PM So I said I would post my Mega Man 2 route today, so here goes:
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Neo on June 01, 2015, 02:01:43 PM I'm in man. Be honest though...I'll probably have to play these on an emulator. But I'm in.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: RetroRage on June 01, 2015, 04:58:29 PM Here's the official/unofficial speedrun route for the category "Zip Glitches" which is basically the main category everyone does nowadays. The WR is 27:49 according to Speed Demos Archive.
Here's the run if anyone is interested. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phGwDWzFYes I'm terrible at speedrunning this game but I'm trying my best to take advantage of every trick. It's not as easy as it looks.... Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Ikariniku on June 01, 2015, 05:02:26 PM Here's the official/unofficial speedrun route for the category "Zip Glitches" which is basically the main category everyone does nowadays. The WR is 27:49 according to Speed Demos Archive. I'm terrible at speedrunning this game but I'm trying my best to take advantage of every trick. It's not as easy as it looks.... Great idea. My favorite thing about watching speed runs is trying to pick up little tips and tricks to use in my casual playing. That said, I'm ecstatic that I can play Mega Man games with any facility at all. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: shaggy on June 01, 2015, 07:12:45 PM I recall, Flashman first, Quickman last.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Ikariniku on June 01, 2015, 07:55:20 PM I didn't have much time to play today, but I did hop on long enough to beat Bubble Man. Only Heat Man stands between me and Wily's Castle.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: RetroRage on June 01, 2015, 08:29:23 PM Beat Mega Man 2 in a little over 2 hours with lots of screwing around and speedrun strat practice. I want to finish in less than an hour by the end of the week.
btw I'm playing on my NES. There is no other way. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Duke.Togo on June 01, 2015, 09:39:41 PM I'm hoping my Blinking Light Win comes in pretty soon (it should). This will be a great way to break it in.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: shaggy on June 02, 2015, 05:46:49 AM I'm hoping my Blinking Light Win comes in pretty soon (it should). This will be a great way to break it in. Blinking Light Win? Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: JerryGreenwood on June 02, 2015, 06:38:32 AM I'm feeling the casual play-through. I was thinking the challenges would be like "beat MM2 on hard" or "beat the games with only the mega buster" (which I'll probably do anyway), but it'll be nice to just play and chat.
2 things I'll say to start... 1 - Two of the best soundtracks on the NES. Many consider MM2 the greatest soundtrack of all-time and it probably has the most cover songs. But I feel MM3 is overshadowed in this department because MM2's soundtrack is so dominant. If you ask me, they are both top 5 NES soundtracks. 2 - I've beaten both of these games several times. I'm going to play in a random order and refrain from using Metal Blade. For those who don't know, Metal Blade makes an easy game easier. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Disposed Hero on June 02, 2015, 08:35:11 AM I'm feeling the casual play-through. I was thinking the challenges would be like "beat MM2 on hard" or "beat the games with only the mega buster" (which I'll probably do anyway), but it'll be nice to just play and chat. Good suggestions Jerry! I wanted to add achievements to this playthrough, but not being very experienced with the Mega Man games myself, I wasn't sure what to set as achievements. I added these suggestions to the OP. Keep 'em coming if you have any more. I'm sure the Mega Man veterans here will appreciate the challenge. :) Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Duke.Togo on June 02, 2015, 08:55:47 AM I'm hoping my Blinking Light Win comes in pretty soon (it should). This will be a great way to break it in. Blinking Light Win? 72-pin replacement connector for the NES. Kickstarter project. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: JerryGreenwood on June 02, 2015, 11:34:30 AM I added these suggestions to the OP. Keep 'em coming if you have any more. Beat either game without using an E-tank. Hard to say which is more difficult; using only the Mega Buster or not using any E-tanks.*Regarding the Mega Buster challenge, there are some bosses that are invincible against the Mega Buster so we'd obviously have to excuse those enemies. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Neo on June 02, 2015, 12:03:15 PM I like bananas stategy. Iill give it a try.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Neo on June 02, 2015, 12:06:07 PM Beat the games with only the megabuster. Lol...if someone does that i want an autograph. That sounds like it would be very hard.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: JerryGreenwood on June 02, 2015, 12:21:06 PM /\
It's not that bad, in MM2 a lot of the bosses take a lot of damage from the Mega Buster. However, beating either game without E-tanks AND only using the Mega Buster would be a MAJOR challenge. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Ikariniku on June 02, 2015, 02:59:58 PM That's Bubble Man down. I started Wily Castle, but Mecha Dragon had my number today.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: singlebanana on June 02, 2015, 03:02:22 PM That's Bubble Man down. I started Wily Castle, but Mecha Dragon had my number today. That bastard scared the hell out of me the first time it popped up behind me as a kid. Am I the only one? Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Ikariniku on June 02, 2015, 03:07:01 PM That bastard scared the hell out of me the first time it popped up behind me as a kid. Am I the only one? I knew he was coming, so I wasn't scared, per se, however, I was startled when I was lining up a jump and Mecha Dragon rose up and OHKO'ed me. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: shaggy on June 03, 2015, 12:19:43 PM I'm hoping my Blinking Light Win comes in pretty soon (it should). This will be a great way to break it in. Blinking Light Win? 72-pin replacement connector for the NES. Kickstarter project. Doh! *slaps forehead* Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: RetroRage on June 03, 2015, 03:13:32 PM Looks like I'm alone with the speedrun thang...
Btw I NEVER get tired of this music. SO GOOD. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: singlebanana on June 03, 2015, 09:15:03 PM Mega Man 2 down!
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: JerryGreenwood on June 04, 2015, 06:14:31 AM Looks like I'm alone with the speedrun thang... You're not alone, I just haven't started yet :)Btw I NEVER get tired of this music. SO GOOD. Am I alone in the mega buster-only challenge or the no e-tank challenge? Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: singlebanana on June 04, 2015, 08:03:01 AM The music in Mega Man 2 is my favorite video game music of all time. So diverse and well done, and every track is distinct and matches well with each stage. I'm not sure if any of the rest of you are NA members and took advantage of this some time ago:
[img width=700 height=522]http://i1029.photobucket.com/albums/y359/necrom99/Video%20Game%20Scores/691689C2-9C67-47D2-A3A1-E60FBCCF1FB5_zpsntkml8rz.jpg[/img] Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: RetroRage on June 04, 2015, 08:29:48 AM Looks like I'm alone with the speedrun thang... You're not alone, I just haven't started yet :)Btw I NEVER get tired of this music. SO GOOD. Am I alone in the mega buster-only challenge or the no e-tank challenge? Im already ahead of you with the no e-tank challenge. You don't really need em when the robot masters go down in a couple hits with their weakness weapon (For MM2 at least). Now a Mega-Buster only + No E-Tank challenge, that I can get behind :) Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: singlebanana on June 04, 2015, 01:00:42 PM I found this amusing....
[img width=700 height=525]http://media1.gameinformer.com/imagefeed/featured/capcom2013/megaman/megaman2/MegaMan2Order.png[/img] Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: mumboking on June 04, 2015, 02:25:23 PM I found this amusing.... Amusing enough to post it four times in a row. :P[img width=256 height=192]http://media1.gameinformer.com/imagefeed/featured/capcom2013/megaman/megaman2/MegaMan2Order.png[/img] Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: JerryGreenwood on June 04, 2015, 02:25:50 PM Love it. I just wish that the artist didn't double-up on the Metal Blade and just hit Flash Man with the Crash Bomber.
I also wish the poster didn't quadruple-up on the post :P Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: singlebanana on June 04, 2015, 02:55:22 PM I also wish the poster didn't quadruple-up on the post :P Wow! Thanks for pointing that out guys. I only hit post once and the page kept spinning. Odd.... Fixed. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: JerryGreenwood on June 06, 2015, 07:01:06 AM I'm trying to do a mix of a speed run, mega buster-only, no vehicle, and no e-tank. (normal difficulty)
It took me 62 minutes to get to Wily's Castle. I doubt that's very fast. Heatman's disappearing blocks cost me a 3 lives. Other than that, I think I only died 2 other times. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: JerryGreenwood on June 06, 2015, 08:52:57 AM Any favorite MM2 tunes?
Dr. Wily's first stage has been covered a million times and is probably the most popular song from the game. While I do like that song, I'm gunna pick a few less known (less covered) tracks. My top 3 is probably Air Man Flash Man Bubble Man If I was forced to pick a dud, it would be Crash Man (but it's still not a bad song). Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: singlebanana on June 06, 2015, 09:37:28 AM Put in a little work on MM3 this morning before the family woke up...... Knocked a few of the extra stages before Dr. Wiley's castle.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Disposed Hero on June 06, 2015, 11:42:16 AM I was finally able to get started on Mega Man 2 yesterday. I made it through all of the stages except for Quick Man, but I'll tackle it again today. I had a hard time with the laser things that come out from the sides of the screen. I'll have to figure out the pattern and the optimal route to take.
Like I said earlier in the thread, my experience with the Mega Man games is very limited. While I have played them a little bit here and there, this is really the first time I've ever sat down and put in a serious effort to play through any of these games. It's cool to finally see what all the fuss is about. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Ikariniku on June 06, 2015, 04:13:57 PM Stuck on Wily Castle in Mega Man 2. May try to clear the frustration by jumping to Mega Man 3 for a bit.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Duke.Togo on June 06, 2015, 07:14:35 PM I got my tracking number on my Blinking Light Win, so hopefully I can get started soon!
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: singlebanana on June 06, 2015, 09:00:32 PM until you figure out the lasers Steven, the Flash Man item is your friend
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: shaggy on June 07, 2015, 09:06:48 AM I found my MM collection for GC! I can start this now.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Ikariniku on June 07, 2015, 10:06:29 AM I found my MM collection for GC! I can start this now. Have fun with that button layout. :) Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: MetalFRO on June 08, 2015, 10:38:33 AM The music in Mega Man 2 is my favorite video game music of all time. So diverse and well done, and every track is distinct and matches well with each stage. I'm not sure if any of the rest of you are NA members and took advantage of this some time ago: [img width=700 height=522]http://i1029.photobucket.com/albums/y359/necrom99/Video%20Game%20Scores/691689C2-9C67-47D2-A3A1-E60FBCCF1FB5_zpsntkml8rz.jpg[/img] Is that still available? I had read about it, but never saw where I could order one, or who released it? Would LOVE to have that in my collection. I'm partial to MM3's soundtrack as well, perhaps moreso, but MM2's score is brilliant. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: singlebanana on June 08, 2015, 10:41:21 AM No, it was a very limited edition pressing and the first vinyl this guy did. Since then he has done a Castlevania and LoZ vinyl. I missed out on Castlevania and contacted him in a PM on NA the other day and he still had some left. Unsure about status of Zelda.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Shadow Kisuragi on June 08, 2015, 10:46:24 AM I think you're missing the iconic song from ALL of Mega Man, Jerry:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJRoRt155mA One of my favorite versions from Jam Project: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Nnl0ycLvgU Inspired from everyone's historic struggles on Air Man when the game came out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opADNvgeZYY This one's mainly slanted towards the first Mega Man, but I'm sure some people will feel like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFtkDEAhWC8 ...okay, I've had my fun with videos for now. I'm sure everyone realizes Mega Man had a ton of music/videos from Japan :P Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Shadow Kisuragi on June 08, 2015, 11:02:08 AM Separate post, just because of the hype for it:
http://kotaku.com/capcom-announces-mega-man-legacy-collection-1709804914 Mega Man 1-6 coming to PS4, Xbox One, and PC, and later on 3DS. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTrTBqQwk-8 Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: JerryGreenwood on June 08, 2015, 11:13:07 AM @Shadow - I mentioned that song, but I didn't want to include it because everyone knows it and loves it. I was listing some of my favs from the lesser known tracks.
As for MM2, I beat it over the weekend (on Normal) with no e-tanks, no vehicles (items), and mega buster-only. Next step, Difficult difficulty and then I'll try the same challenge with MM3. I think MM3 will be the hardest game to do that with. Some of the bosses only take 1 damage from the mega buster. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: singlebanana on June 08, 2015, 11:20:52 AM @Shadow - I mentioned that song, but I didn't want to include it because everyone knows it and loves it. I was listing some of my favs from the lesser known tracks. As for MM2, I beat it over the weekend (on Normal) with no e-tanks, no vehicles (items), and mega buster-only. Next step, Difficult difficulty and then I'll try the same challenge with MM3. I think MM3 will be the hardest game to do that with. Some of the bosses only take 1 damage from the mega buster. Impossible. How did you make it past the huge open space that has no blocks on the first Dr. Wiley stage without using the Item 1? I assume you mean you beat the game without the unnecessary use of items, like not using Item 2 on Heatman's stage. Still, that's awesome! Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Disposed Hero on June 08, 2015, 11:40:02 AM Separate post, just because of the hype for it: http://kotaku.com/capcom-announces-mega-man-legacy-collection-1709804914 Mega Man 1-6 coming to PS4, Xbox One, and PC, and later on 3DS. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTrTBqQwk-8 Awesome, I'll definitely check that out. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: MetalFRO on June 08, 2015, 12:15:58 PM No, it was a very limited edition pressing and the first vinyl this guy did. Since then he has done a Castlevania and LoZ vinyl. I missed out on Castlevania and contacted him in a PM on NA the other day and he still had some left. Unsure about status of Zelda. Poop. Well, I guess I'll have to watch Discogs and see if I can ever score a copy for less than a mint :P Not sure if I have a favorite MM2 track, but my fav MM3 track has always been Snake Man's theme: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpVIM8de2xw Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: MaterialHandlerMike on June 08, 2015, 05:12:03 PM I was also lucky enough to score the Mega Man 2 vinyl, and have been able to get 2 of every release since then.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: RetroRage on June 08, 2015, 07:56:39 PM Ran through MM2 again. Beat the 8 robot masters in 25:24, beat the game in 57:03. I can knock off at least 10 minutes if I can just cut out dying alone. Wilys castle still eats me up at spots.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Ikariniku on June 08, 2015, 08:56:08 PM Separate post, just because of the hype for it: http://kotaku.com/capcom-announces-mega-man-legacy-collection-1709804914 Mega Man 1-6 coming to PS4, Xbox One, and PC, and later on 3DS. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTrTBqQwk-8 Cool, but I was really hoping this would be a collection of 1-10. I want a physical release for 9 & 10. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: shaggy on June 08, 2015, 10:08:31 PM Flashman and Bubbleman down!
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: MetalFRO on June 09, 2015, 09:21:51 AM I was also lucky enough to score the Mega Man 2 vinyl, and have been able to get 2 of every release since then. Are you talking specifically about Moonshake releases? They're all quite expensive at this point :( Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: singlebanana on June 09, 2015, 09:51:47 AM I was also lucky enough to score the Mega Man 2 vinyl, and have been able to get 2 of every release since then. Are you talking specifically about Moonshake releases? They're all quite expensive at this point :( Not too bad. Except for MM2, which was very limited and no longer available. Got Castlevania for $30 shipped. Of course, the poachers on eBay are selling them for close to $100. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: MaterialHandlerMike on June 09, 2015, 11:10:53 AM I was also lucky enough to score the Mega Man 2 vinyl, and have been able to get 2 of every release since then. Are you talking specifically about Moonshake releases? They're all quite expensive at this point :( Yep. Im on the mailer list. Probably going to pass on the Earthbound record when/if he does it. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: MetalFRO on June 09, 2015, 12:00:35 PM How does one get on the list? Is there a website I need to hit?
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Disposed Hero on June 09, 2015, 02:47:26 PM I'm very happy to say that I, a Mega Man noob, just beat Mega Man 2 on the Difficult setting. On to Mega Man 3!
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: NeoMagicWarrior on June 09, 2015, 05:42:43 PM Just got back from a business trip, so I think I'll jump in on this too. Mainly because I have never beaten Mega Man 3 (mainly because I dont own the NES cart). MegaMan 2 should just be an afternoon project xD.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: shaggy on June 09, 2015, 09:48:40 PM Just beat Metal man. I must say either I don't remember how hard this game was or I've gotten suckier over the years. I'm also playing with the Wavebird controller and the Anniversary collection does not let you reconfigure the buttons! Jump and shoot or opposite of what I'm used to. I'm constantly confusing them!
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: shaggy on June 09, 2015, 10:07:35 PM Quick man down.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Duke.Togo on June 09, 2015, 11:16:38 PM Gave Mega Man 2 another quick run tonight. It never gets old.
[img width=700 height=525]http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af356/jackcrow2000/0B92D755-6807-482A-9F17-9A460C1F4008_zps80pax0aj.jpg[/img] (http://s1023.photobucket.com/user/jackcrow2000/media/0B92D755-6807-482A-9F17-9A460C1F4008_zps80pax0aj.jpg.html) Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: singlebanana on June 09, 2015, 11:21:13 PM Just beat Metal man. I must say either I don't remember how hard this game was or I've gotten suckier over the years. Maybe it's just that I'm too familiar with MM2 since I played it a ton as a kid, but to me, the difficulty greatly increases in MM3. Speaking of...... [img width=700 height=522]http://i1029.photobucket.com/albums/y359/necrom99/Video%20Game%20Scores/E2A6FF60-C6AA-455E-BCEB-60798FF4A037_zpstdostonv.jpg[/img] Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: MaterialHandlerMike on June 09, 2015, 11:28:03 PM Going to play these with Crabby, at his house, during E3.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: shaggy on June 10, 2015, 12:30:00 PM Just beat Metal man. I must say either I don't remember how hard this game was or I've gotten suckier over the years. Maybe it's just that I'm too familiar with MM2 since I played it a ton as a kid, but to me, the difficulty greatly increases in MM3. Speaking of...... I played this a lot when I was a kid, too. I love this series. I think a big part of the problem is I'm playing on the GC and not the NES. I keep confusing the jump and shoot buttons. Also, it's hard to "fist" the controller and pound the shoot button with the index finger. A strategy I use a lot on this game. Anyone else playing on the GC? Anyone else having issues with the controller/button configuration? Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Ikariniku on June 10, 2015, 01:31:38 PM I played this a lot when I was a kid, too. I love this series. I think a big part of the problem is I'm playing on the GC and not the NES. I keep confusing the jump and shoot buttons. Also, it's hard to "fist" the controller and pound the shoot button with the index finger. A strategy I use a lot on this game. Anyone else playing on the GC? Anyone else having issues with the controller/button configuration? My friend bought Mega Man Anniversary when it first came out. It only made sense to buy the Gamecube version, right? We were in college, so there was a huge group crowding around to see the collection. We were all hyped for it. Then, the gameplay started. A shoots, B jumps. The collection sat gathering dust for the rest of our time at college. This is why I made sure to pick up the PS2 version when I saw it in a game shop years later. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: shaggy on June 10, 2015, 02:40:24 PM I played this a lot when I was a kid, too. I love this series. I think a big part of the problem is I'm playing on the GC and not the NES. I keep confusing the jump and shoot buttons. Also, it's hard to "fist" the controller and pound the shoot button with the index finger. A strategy I use a lot on this game. Anyone else playing on the GC? Anyone else having issues with the controller/button configuration? My friend bought Mega Man Anniversary when it first came out. It only made sense to buy the Gamecube version, right? We were in college, so there was a huge group crowding around to see the collection. We were all hyped for it. Then, the gameplay started. A shoots, B jumps. The collection sat gathering dust for the rest of our time at college. This is why I made sure to pick up the PS2 version when I saw it in a game shop years later. Yup, I can't get used to the buttons being opposite. I might have to switch to the NES for MM3. I can't find my MM2 cart at the moment. Also, MM2 on the Anniversary collection does not have a Difficult difficulty settings. Does the NES version have a Difficult setting? Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Disposed Hero on June 10, 2015, 02:46:19 PM I played this a lot when I was a kid, too. I love this series. I think a big part of the problem is I'm playing on the GC and not the NES. I keep confusing the jump and shoot buttons. Also, it's hard to "fist" the controller and pound the shoot button with the index finger. A strategy I use a lot on this game. Anyone else playing on the GC? Anyone else having issues with the controller/button configuration? My friend bought Mega Man Anniversary when it first came out. It only made sense to buy the Gamecube version, right? We were in college, so there was a huge group crowding around to see the collection. We were all hyped for it. Then, the gameplay started. A shoots, B jumps. The collection sat gathering dust for the rest of our time at college. This is why I made sure to pick up the PS2 version when I saw it in a game shop years later. Yup, I can't get used to the buttons being opposite. I might have to switch to the NES for MM3. I can't find my MM2 cart at the moment. Also, MM2 on the Anniversary collection does not have a Difficult difficulty settings. Does the NES version have a Difficult setting? Yes it does. The 'Difficult' mode is the true difficulty of the game as it was released in Japan, while Normal is an easier mode for the North American audience. The 'Normal' difficulty on the Anniversary collection is the same as the 'Difficult' mode on the NES release. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Disposed Hero on June 10, 2015, 06:12:47 PM I just started Mega Man 3. I have no idea what order to tackle the stages in, or which bosses are weak to which powers, but I was able to defeat Top Man and Gemini Man.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: singlebanana on June 10, 2015, 06:28:50 PM I just started Mega Man 3. I have no idea what order to tackle the stages in, or which bosses are weak to which powers, but I was able to defeat Top Man and Gemini Man. Top Man is a common boss to start with, along with Magnet Man. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Ikariniku on June 10, 2015, 06:32:08 PM I just started Mega Man 3. I have no idea what order to tackle the stages in, or which bosses are weak to which powers, but I was able to defeat Top Man and Gemini Man. I had the same questions. However, the boss orders I found online weren't working for me. So, I went back to my Nintendo Power issues and found the order they suggested. The Nintendo Power boss order for Mega Man 3: Magnet Man --> Hard Man --> Top Man --> Shadow Man --> Spark Man --> Snake Man --> Gemini Man --> Needle Man I plan on trying this order on my next attempt at Mega Man 3. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: russlyman on June 10, 2015, 06:40:13 PM Might have to jump in on this. I have the NES carts, virtual console and I think gamecube anniversary.
I hated how the swapped the buttons so I never play that one. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: singlebanana on June 10, 2015, 06:56:17 PM I just started Mega Man 3. I have no idea what order to tackle the stages in, or which bosses are weak to which powers, but I was able to defeat Top Man and Gemini Man. I had the same questions. However, the boss orders I found online weren't working for me. So, I went back to my Nintendo Power issues and found the order they suggested. The Nintendo Power boss order for Mega Man 3: Magnet Man --> Hard Man --> Top Man --> Shadow Man --> Spark Man --> Snake Man --> Gemini Man --> Needle Man I plan on trying this order on my next attempt at Mega Man 3. Yep, that was my order. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: shaggy on June 10, 2015, 07:59:47 PM I played this a lot when I was a kid, too. I love this series. I think a big part of the problem is I'm playing on the GC and not the NES. I keep confusing the jump and shoot buttons. Also, it's hard to "fist" the controller and pound the shoot button with the index finger. A strategy I use a lot on this game. Anyone else playing on the GC? Anyone else having issues with the controller/button configuration? My friend bought Mega Man Anniversary when it first came out. It only made sense to buy the Gamecube version, right? We were in college, so there was a huge group crowding around to see the collection. We were all hyped for it. Then, the gameplay started. A shoots, B jumps. The collection sat gathering dust for the rest of our time at college. This is why I made sure to pick up the PS2 version when I saw it in a game shop years later. Yup, I can't get used to the buttons being opposite. I might have to switch to the NES for MM3. I can't find my MM2 cart at the moment. Also, MM2 on the Anniversary collection does not have a Difficult difficulty settings. Does the NES version have a Difficult setting? Yes it does. The 'Difficult' mode is the true difficulty of the game as it was released in Japan, while Normal is an easier mode for the North American audience. The 'Normal' difficulty on the Anniversary collection is the same as the 'Difficult' mode on the NES release. Well I'll be, that's why I'm having so much trouble. I really didn't lose my talent. Yippee! Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: shaggy on June 10, 2015, 08:42:19 PM Man, MM2 has some awesome music! Woodman!
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: MaterialHandlerMike on June 10, 2015, 11:21:05 PM MM2 does have awesome music. There was a Canadian TV show in the 90's I remember called Video and Arcade Top 10. The theme music for that show was a modified/inspired version of Crash Man stage music.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Disposed Hero on June 10, 2015, 11:27:47 PM Played a little more of Mega Man 3 and beat all of the stages except for Snake Man. I'm going to bed now.
Since the MM2 soundtrack keeps being brought up, I leave you guys with this awesome video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUHlVdqRlPA Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: JerryGreenwood on June 11, 2015, 06:15:08 AM Another VERY underrated song is the Intro to MM3. In fact, I'd put it as one of the best NES tracks ever. It's a shame that Capcom 'wasted' it for the Intro (because a lot of the time people just hit start right away and don't get to hear it)
Anyway, an update for for my "helmetless" challenge (no e-tanks, no vehicles, mega buster-only) MM2 Normal - Complete MM2 Difficult - Only Quickman remaining. He is very tough and I can't gauge a pattern. MM3 - 8 robot masters down, on to the next 4 stages. I'm not feeling too confident in finishing these. Hard Man was near impossible, Gemini Man and Shadow Man are very tough, and I can't even beat Quickman. I don't think I'll fare well when it's time to fight all 8 robot masters in a row. Impossible. How did you make it past the huge open space that has no blocks on the first Dr. Wiley stage without using the Item 1? Magic!No, it's impossible. I used the Items (and certain weapons to beat certain bosses) ONLY when the game forces you too. Maybe it's just that I'm too familiar with MM2 since I played it a ton as a kid, but to me, the difficulty greatly increases in MM3. It does. There are a lot of bosses in MM2 that you can bully. You can blast away at them and just dodge a little and you'll end up winning. The patterns for the bosses in MM3 are far more sophisticated and challenging. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Disposed Hero on June 11, 2015, 08:45:42 AM Another VERY underrated song is the Intro to MM3. In fact, I'd put it as one of the best NES tracks ever. It's a shame that Capcom 'wasted' it for the Intro (because a lot of the time people just hit start right away and don't get to hear it) Anyway, an update for for my "helmetless" challenge (no e-tanks, no vehicles, mega buster-only) MM2 Normal - Complete MM2 Difficult - Only Quickman remaining. He is very tough and I can't gauge a pattern. MM3 - 8 robot masters down, on to the next 4 stages. I'm not feeling too confident in finishing these. Hard Man was near impossible, Gemini Man and Shadow Man are very tough, and I can't even beat Quickman. I don't think I'll fare well when it's time to fight all 8 robot masters in a row. Impossible. How did you make it past the huge open space that has no blocks on the first Dr. Wiley stage without using the Item 1? Magic!No, it's impossible. I used the Items (and certain weapons to beat certain bosses) ONLY when the game forces you too. Maybe it's just that I'm too familiar with MM2 since I played it a ton as a kid, but to me, the difficulty greatly increases in MM3. It does. There are a lot of bosses in MM2 that you can bully. You can blast away at them and just dodge a little and you'll end up winning. The patterns for the bosses in MM3 are far more sophisticated and challenging. I agree 100% about the intro track to MM3. It is quickly becoming one of my favorite tracks in the entire NES library. I'm surprised you're having such a hard time with Quick Man. I felt like he was one of the easier bosses to beat with the Mega Buster. Granted, I still lost a good chunk of health on him, so I may not have fared so well during the boss rush if I had to fight all the robot masters using only the Mega Buster. I also agree that the bosses in MM3 seem much more difficult than the bosses in MM2. The patterns for most of the MM2 robot masters are very predictable. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: MetalFRO on June 11, 2015, 09:19:50 AM I bought the GC version of the anniversary collection as a new release, or relatively new. I think I paid $30 for it, or thereabouts. I could never get used to the button swap either, and it's a crying shame Capcom didn't give us the opportunity to swap it. When I get around to playing these (been spending too much time on Mass Effect!), I'll probably play via the Xbox version of the collection.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: JerryGreenwood on June 11, 2015, 09:34:06 AM I'm surprised you're having such a hard time with Quick Man. I felt like he was one of the easier bosses to beat with the Mega Buster. Granted, I still lost a good chunk of health on him, so I may not have fared so well during the boss rush if I had to fight all the robot masters using only the Mega Buster. Maybe I'm just missing something.@MetalFRO - Yeah, that button thing is inexcusable. There are some NES and SMS games that have reversed buttons like that, but that was before the standard was set. It shouldn't never be like that on a GC or PS2 game. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: russlyman on June 11, 2015, 09:47:48 AM I debating opening up my controller and physically moving the buttons so it's right. And just use that controller for mega man. Ha
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: singlebanana on June 11, 2015, 10:09:37 AM I debating opening up my controller and physically moving the buttons so it's right. And just use that controller for mega man. Ha You doing this would not surprise me. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Duke.Togo on June 11, 2015, 02:35:59 PM @Jerry Greenwood: If you're still having problems with Quick Man, I use the Time Stopper to bleed out some of his health, and then go with the Air Shooter afterwards. At least that is the way I tackle him.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: JerryGreenwood on June 11, 2015, 03:15:59 PM @Jerry Greenwood: If you're still having problems with Quick Man, I use the Time Stopper to bleed out some of his health, and then go with the Air Shooter afterwards. At least that is the way I tackle him. Thanks. I know those tactics, but I'm trying for the..."helmetless" challenge (no e-tanks, no vehicles, mega buster-only) On Difficult, it is quite...difficult. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Ikariniku on June 11, 2015, 03:20:34 PM Mega Man 3 really cranks up the difficulty compared to 1 & 2. I had a really hard time with Magnet Man... until I realized the corners of his boss room are safe spots.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: singlebanana on June 11, 2015, 03:22:09 PM Mega Man 3 really cranks up the difficulty compared to 1 & 2. I had a really hard time with Magnet Man... until I realized the corners of his boss room are safe spots. The slide comes in handy in that fight. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Ikariniku on June 11, 2015, 03:33:23 PM The slide comes in handy in that fight. Yeah, Mega Man 3 really beats you over the head with its new mechanic. I find the Mega Man games are actually very good at teaching the player their abilities and introducing new hazards. A very underrated property in games. Sliding properly did help, but my breakthrough was realizing and utilizing the safe corners. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Disposed Hero on June 12, 2015, 05:25:05 PM I just finished Mega Man 3. It was way more challenging than MM2, even when set to the 'Difficult' setting. Even the return of the MM2 Robot Masters in MM3 were way harder.
This was a cool way for me to finally play through some of these games and get into the series a little bit. Other than dabbling with these games a little here and there, this was really the first time I've ever seriously sat down and played through these games with the intent of finishing them. They can be pretty frustrating at times, but there's something about them that kept me coming back for more. I may fire up the original game some time in the near future. :) Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: singlebanana on June 12, 2015, 05:50:42 PM Congrats! And yeah, I might fire that original up as well.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: shaggy on June 12, 2015, 11:46:11 PM Air Man, Crash Man, and Wood Man complete.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: JerryGreenwood on June 13, 2015, 06:15:11 AM Quickman complete. Wasn't as hard as I first thought. I think you have to make your shots count. It seemed that if I fired a bunch of random shots, that made him act a little crazier.
Also, it's tough to reach him with full health and 2 lives in stock. That final screen with the Sniper Joe's and his robot is more or less impossible to get past without taking chunks of damage. I find the Mega Man games are actually very good at teaching the player their abilities and introducing new hazards. I think Mega Man games have some of the greatest mechanics of all-time. At it's core, it couldn't be more simple - you just jump and shoot (and slide). If you dive deeper, there is a lot you can do with those tools. I'm a veteran at these games, so to me, fighting a boss with the weapon that it's weak against is a joke. If you play with only the Mega Buster, you'll see that every boss (MM3 in particular) has an intricate pattern, sometimes multiple patterns. Take Crash Man for example. If you don't shoot, he won't shoot. He won't even jump. He just runs back and forth across the screen. When you start shooting, that's when $h17 hits the fan. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: singlebanana on June 13, 2015, 07:48:40 AM Popped the original MM this morning. Not as much of an issue with the bosses and stages as I remember. Ugh......no passwords.
[img width=700 height=522]http://i1029.photobucket.com/albums/y359/necrom99/Playthroughs/EC1A1C12-2172-40DE-AF1B-0F7F10C0CA26_zpsrp2k7cw3.jpg[/img] Here was my boss/weapon order for those interested: Gutsman - P Cutsman - G Bomberman - P Elecman - C Iceman - E Fireman - I Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Ikariniku on June 13, 2015, 08:08:58 AM Popped the original MM this morning. Not as much of an issue with the bosses and stages as I remember. Ugh......no passwords. [img width=700 height=522]http://i1029.photobucket.com/albums/y359/necrom99/Playthroughs/EC1A1C12-2172-40DE-AF1B-0F7F10C0CA26_zpsrp2k7cw3.jpg[/img] Here was my boss/weapon order for those interested: Gutsman - P Cutsman - G Bomberman - P Elecman - C Iceman - E Fireman - I I think a password system would have made Mega Man near-perfect, though it's still my favorite Mega Man game without them. My boss order is: Fireman --> Bombman --> Gutsman --> Cutman --> Iceman --> Elecman Though it seems like I have Elecman and Iceman reversed. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Duke.Togo on June 13, 2015, 09:41:07 AM My MM1 boss order: Cut/Guts > Elec > Ice > Fire > Bomb
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Duke.Togo on June 13, 2015, 06:38:40 PM Extra credit?
[img width=700 height=525]http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af356/jackcrow2000/A04895F7-21F6-4FE8-B7A1-D857CBFCEE15_zpslqx6blbr.jpg[/img] (http://s1023.photobucket.com/user/jackcrow2000/media/A04895F7-21F6-4FE8-B7A1-D857CBFCEE15_zpslqx6blbr.jpg.html) Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: shaggy on June 13, 2015, 11:11:08 PM :laugh: I got to Wiley's Castle and I forgot that damn dragon comes from behind.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: shaggy on June 13, 2015, 11:22:17 PM Ugh, I forgot that you have to complete Wiley's Castle in one sitting. :(
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: MetalFRO on June 15, 2015, 08:36:10 AM Started Mega Man 2, and everyone is right. Going after Metal Man first and having the Metal Blade to blow through stages with makes the first few stages & bosses pretty easy. Last night, in the scope of about 45 minutes or so, I downed the first 5 of 8 bosses. I eventually gave up on the Heatman stage because of that long series of disappearing/reappearing platforms (the bane of all Mega Man games), and figure I'll pick back up on my next play through. I was very surprised how quickly I accomplished that, however.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Disposed Hero on June 15, 2015, 08:44:26 AM Popped the original MM this morning. Not as much of an issue with the bosses and stages as I remember. Ugh......no passwords. Here was my boss/weapon order for those interested: Gutsman - P Cutsman - G Bomberman - P Elecman - C Iceman - E Fireman - I Thanks for listing the bosses and their weaknesses. I never know which power to use on which boss and don't feel like doing all the trial and error. I just got a Retron 5 and started playing the original MM on it. It's a cool system, and it's awesome to be able to save states in between levels just so I don't have to play the entire game in one sitting. However, I'm noticing significant input lag on my HDTV, and it's making the game much more difficult than it should be. I've done a side by side comparison between the Retron and the NES, and it's night and day. I tried configuring my TV's settings, and it seemed to help somewhat, but the lag is still a problem. I'm going to try updating the firmware when my new SD card comes in (can't find my old one) and see if that helps. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Disposed Hero on June 15, 2015, 08:45:57 AM I eventually gave up on the Heatman stage because of that long series of disappearing/reappearing platforms (the bane of all Mega Man games), and figure I'll pick back up on my next play through. I didn't even attempt to do that platforming section. I just bypassed it using Item-2. Anybody else do this? Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: MetalFRO on June 15, 2015, 10:02:55 AM I eventually gave up on the Heatman stage because of that long series of disappearing/reappearing platforms (the bane of all Mega Man games), and figure I'll pick back up on my next play through. I didn't even attempt to do that platforming section. I just bypassed it using Item-2. Anybody else do this? I usually abuse RushJet in MM3 on such sections. Which stage do you get Item 2 at the end of? Maybe I'll go tackle that one first and come back to Heatman ;D Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: russlyman on June 15, 2015, 10:31:45 AM ok I'm def jumping on this tonight. It has been some time. I know I always end up getting stuck at some parts in the Wiley castle.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: singlebanana on June 15, 2015, 01:50:58 PM I eventually gave up on the Heatman stage because of that long series of disappearing/reappearing platforms (the bane of all Mega Man games), and figure I'll pick back up on my next play through. I didn't even attempt to do that platforming section. I just bypassed it using Item-2. Anybody else do this? I usually abuse RushJet in MM3 on such sections. Which stage do you get Item 2 at the end of? Maybe I'll go tackle that one first and come back to Heatman ;D Defeating Airman gives you the Item 2 Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: JerryGreenwood on June 15, 2015, 03:24:45 PM I've officially declared that it's hopeless to beat MM3 by only using the Mega Buster and no e-tanks. The rehashed MM2 robot masters, save Metal Man, are literally impossible.
I think I still have a chance at MM2 on Difficult. I can get up to the Boss Gauntlet room, but it wore me out and I turned it off. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: shaggy on June 15, 2015, 07:26:49 PM I eventually gave up on the Heatman stage because of that long series of disappearing/reappearing platforms (the bane of all Mega Man games), and figure I'll pick back up on my next play through. I didn't even attempt to do that platforming section. I just bypassed it using Item-2. Anybody else do this? I usually abuse RushJet in MM3 on such sections. Which stage do you get Item 2 at the end of? Maybe I'll go tackle that one first and come back to Heatman ;D I used item 2, also. You get after beating Air Man. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: JerryGreenwood on June 16, 2015, 06:08:48 AM Extra credit? Definitely. MM1 is by far the hardest.[img width=700 height=525]http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af356/jackcrow2000/A04895F7-21F6-4FE8-B7A1-D857CBFCEE15_zpslqx6blbr.jpg[/img] (http://s1023.photobucket.com/user/jackcrow2000/media/A04895F7-21F6-4FE8-B7A1-D857CBFCEE15_zpslqx6blbr.jpg.html) Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: MetalFRO on June 16, 2015, 01:48:40 PM Definitely. MM1 is by far the hardest. I can vouch for that via the Mega Man Powered Up. I haven't beat the original game, but MMPU is also hard as nails, and it's only by being able to milk extra lives in the Oil Man stage and having them available to get through Wily's Castle that I was able to complete that game a few months back. Holy cow, that's hard! Thanks for the tip on the Airman stage, guys. I think I beat that level already, so I'll have to double-check, because I only have Item 3 currently... Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: MetalFRO on June 17, 2015, 12:14:37 AM I'm not afraid to admit I'm abusing the save feature on Mega Man 2, especially in Wily's Castle. I'm stuck on the 4th area boss, the room with the wall cannon things and all the pillars you have to break. I always run out of Crash Missiles before I can take out the last cannon, even if I avoid hitting a couple of the pillars. Not quite sure what to do...
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Disposed Hero on June 17, 2015, 08:46:21 AM I'm not afraid to admit I'm abusing the save feature on Mega Man 2, especially in Wily's Castle. I'm stuck on the 4th area boss, the room with the wall cannon things and all the pillars you have to break. I always run out of Crash Missiles before I can take out the last cannon, even if I avoid hitting a couple of the pillars. Not quite sure what to do... I ended up looking at a Youtube video for that part, but from what I can tell, you only have just enough Crash Missiles to break all of the cannons and every pillar that's necessary to break. You can bypass a few of the pillars by using Item 1. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: singlebanana on June 17, 2015, 01:47:41 PM And place a bomb in between pillars to take out 2 at a time. If you place a bomb on the wall ledge between the two bottom right pillars, you can destroy both at the same time.
Another trick, blow up all the pillars, fill up crash bombers and come back. Pillars will no longer be there. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: MetalFRO on June 17, 2015, 01:51:43 PM And place a bomb in between walls to take out 2 at a time. That's what I was thinking, just not sure which one or where to place it. That's not an easy obstacle for sure :) Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: singlebanana on June 17, 2015, 01:53:50 PM Revised post above Josh
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: JerryGreenwood on June 17, 2015, 02:53:35 PM Those are interesting tactics for the "wall" boss. I didn't think about blowing up 2 pillars with 1 bomb. I've always just blown up the necessary walls and was left with no weapon energy.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Duke.Togo on June 17, 2015, 04:49:01 PM I always just use the Item 1 to get around the walls on that boss. You will have just enough. You can also use the menu to blink through the projectiles.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Shadow Kisuragi on June 17, 2015, 05:01:41 PM Those are interesting tactics for the "wall" boss. I didn't think about blowing up 2 pillars with 1 bomb. I've always just blown up the necessary walls and was left with no weapon energy. I've always done that and never given it a second thought. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: shaggy on June 17, 2015, 09:30:08 PM I'm not afraid to admit I'm abusing the save feature on Mega Man 2, especially in Wily's Castle. I'm stuck on the 4th area boss, the room with the wall cannon things and all the pillars you have to break. I always run out of Crash Missiles before I can take out the last cannon, even if I avoid hitting a couple of the pillars. Not quite sure what to do... What are you playing on? Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: shaggy on June 17, 2015, 09:34:57 PM Well.... another sucky thing about the Anniversary collection is that you cannot start another Megaman game until you finish the one you are on. I'm on Wiley's castle on 2 and didn't have much time so i figured that I would start 3. Nope, can't do it! :grrr:
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: MetalFRO on June 17, 2015, 09:39:09 PM I'm not afraid to admit I'm abusing the save feature on Mega Man 2, especially in Wily's Castle. I'm stuck on the 4th area boss, the room with the wall cannon things and all the pillars you have to break. I always run out of Crash Missiles before I can take out the last cannon, even if I avoid hitting a couple of the pillars. Not quite sure what to do... What are you playing on? I was planning on playing via the Anniversary Collection, but I'm actually playing it on my Wii. Well.... another sucky thing about the Anniversary collection is that you cannot start another Megaman game until you finish the one you are on. I'm on Wiley's castle on 2 and didn't have much time so i figured that I would start 3. Nope, can't do it! :grrr: Which console? I have the GC version, and I don't recall it ever doing that... Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: RetroRage on June 17, 2015, 10:46:01 PM Starting Mega Man 3 tonight. I always have way more difficulty with this one than I do with MM2.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Duke.Togo on June 17, 2015, 11:10:17 PM Mega Man 3 down! (Technically Rock Man 3)
[img width=700 height=525]http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af356/jackcrow2000/353D37E7-1F03-40DC-86BA-8971D1390A86_zpsbkjmpyh4.jpg[/img] (http://s1023.photobucket.com/user/jackcrow2000/media/353D37E7-1F03-40DC-86BA-8971D1390A86_zpsbkjmpyh4.jpg.html) Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: MetalFRO on June 17, 2015, 11:19:22 PM Just finished Mega Man 2:
[img width=700 height=525]http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q388/MetalFRO/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/46661385-DDF2-4682-8021-D97C7F154E9D.jpg[/img] (http://s349.photobucket.com/user/MetalFRO/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/46661385-DDF2-4682-8021-D97C7F154E9D.jpg.html) That boss Rush is brutal, even with the energy balls after each boss, and Wily's alien form sure does take finding a rhythm to really get past unscathed. Glad to have finally completed this one. I hope to go back and do it in one sitting at some point! Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: shaggy on June 18, 2015, 05:45:31 AM I'm not afraid to admit I'm abusing the save feature on Mega Man 2, especially in Wily's Castle. I'm stuck on the 4th area boss, the room with the wall cannon things and all the pillars you have to break. I always run out of Crash Missiles before I can take out the last cannon, even if I avoid hitting a couple of the pillars. Not quite sure what to do... What are you playing on? I was planning on playing via the Anniversary Collection, but I'm actually playing it on my Wii. Well.... another sucky thing about the Anniversary collection is that you cannot start another Megaman game until you finish the one you are on. I'm on Wiley's castle on 2 and didn't have much time so i figured that I would start 3. Nope, can't do it! :grrr: Which console? I have the GC version, and I don't recall it ever doing that... GC version. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: JerryGreenwood on June 18, 2015, 06:19:21 AM Starting Mega Man 3 tonight. I always have way more difficulty with this one than I do with MM2. That's normal. MM2 is the easiest of the 6 NES games. MM3 is kinda tough in some areas.Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: MetalFRO on June 18, 2015, 08:39:00 AM Starting Mega Man 3 tonight. I always have way more difficulty with this one than I do with MM2. That's normal. MM2 is the easiest of the 6 NES games. MM3 is kinda tough in some areas.QFT! I kinda blew through MM2, mostly because I've always had trouble with the lasers in the Quick Man stage, and wanted to finally get to Wily's Castle and take it out quickly to have it under my belt. I want to take my time with MM3, because I never beat it legitimately as a child. A friend and I beat it one weekend at his house, but we used that cheat where if you hold buttons down on the 2nd controller, Mega Man can do insane jumps. I look forward to finally sitting down and conquering this one the right way, as it's my favorite in the series. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: russlyman on June 18, 2015, 11:40:47 AM Ok thought I had 2 on the NES but I don't. Only 1,3,4 so I'll jump into 3 for a bit. Than fire up my wii tonight for 2
[img width=700 height=700]http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/18/e692bdf99e9f68faea5f5448f25023f8.jpg[/img] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Disposed Hero on June 18, 2015, 12:13:25 PM Since I've already finished MM 2 & 3, I recently started up the original. I beat all of the stages, and played through the first part of the Wiley stage, only to be greeted by a boss that made short work of me. Looks like they recycled that boss for MM3, but he was way harder in this game (at least based on the one try I had against him).
I gotta say, if anybody has the opportunity to sit and play these games side by side with a friend, I highly recommend it. I had a friend over while playing the original MM, and we would swap the controller back and forth every time we died. It was a lot of fun playing this way, and made the game way less frustrating than playing alone, at least it did for me. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Shadow Kisuragi on June 18, 2015, 12:22:22 PM Would that boss happen to be the Yellow Devil? You can use the Elec Beam, and if you feel cheeky, you can pause and unpause and it'll hit multiple times.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Disposed Hero on June 18, 2015, 12:25:27 PM Yeah, that's the one. I'll give the Electric Beam a try.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: russlyman on June 18, 2015, 12:35:39 PM [img width=700 height=700]http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/18/daae9810b3fc253dfb1554dd7a697fd7.jpg[/img]
Almost forgot I had this. Mega Man 1,2,&3 on here. Maybe I'll fire this one up later Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: JerryGreenwood on June 18, 2015, 02:34:07 PM Just throwing it out there - I really like the music for Shadow Man, Needle Man, Magnet Man and Gemini Man.
The soundtracks really drive these games. They add a ton of excitement in my opinion. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: MetalFRO on June 18, 2015, 03:17:05 PM @russlyman - jealous! That's a nice looking repro, where'd you get it from?
@JerryGreenwood - yes! Snake Man is awesome, too! I really like the music from MM3, it's one of my favorite soundtracks. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: russlyman on June 18, 2015, 04:01:08 PM thanks @MetalFRO One of my friends bought it and he gave me the guys email. I think he was on NintendoAge. I think it was like $35.
I def love me the Snake Man music. I have been taking notes down with each stage so I will share later what I got so far. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: russlyman on June 18, 2015, 10:06:23 PM ugghhh so stuck on Snake Man's stage. Blast. I have been bouncing between NES, GameCube and Sega playing. Whats good is the passwords work on NES & GameCube. The Sega has a save system so.
Here are some of my notes I jotted down MegaMan III thoughts Magnet Man stage: those darn disappearing blocks. Took me 3 times to beat him Hard Man stage: DAMN BEES!!!! Got my first E tank.Found out if you die and go back you can keep getting the same E tank over and over. Took me 2 trys to beat him Top Man stage: Ughh that darn Robot Cat.Took 1 try to beat him. The hard man buster really hurts him Shadow Man stage:. I like the part where the screen goes black and its like your in space. The parachute goes were a pain in the butt. More notes to be added Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: MetalFRO on June 19, 2015, 10:23:26 AM Maybe it's because I've been playing Mega Man 3 off and on for a number of years, but most of that stuff doesn't bother me. Except for the bees! You're absolutely right about that. Those are the equivalent of the egg drop enemy from MM2's Airman stage, but MORE EVIL! Unless you have a weapon you can quickly take them out with, like the Magnet Missile or something, you WILL take damage. Those kinds of cheap moments do make it frustrating.
The robot cat doesn't take that many Mega Buster blasts to take down, and once you get to where you can jump over (or slide under) the yarn balls, you'll be in good shape. Best to take him out quickly before the fleas make an appearance, though. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: russlyman on June 19, 2015, 01:20:18 PM Good tips. Finally beat snake man and the other bosses. Onto the revisited bosses. Now I'm stuck again. Killed new magnet man but died trying to slide to the pit of spikes you fall down.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: JerryGreenwood on June 20, 2015, 07:52:50 AM Hard Man stage: DAMN BEES!!!! There is virtually no way to avoid getting hit by those DAMN BEES!!!! You gotta run away a good deal and give yourself some space, but it's not even worth it at that point. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: JerryGreenwood on June 20, 2015, 07:58:38 AM Here's what I've completed so far...
MM2 (n) - completed with no e-tanks and no weapons used MM2 (d) - up to Wily's castle with no e-tanks and no weapons used MM3 - completed with no e-tanks used I'll say it again - MM3 is impossible to beat with no e-tanks AND no weapons. Try and beat Wood Man or Air Man without e-tanks or weapons. I DARE YOU!!! Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: MaterialHandlerMike on June 20, 2015, 11:41:31 AM Managed to play MM2 up at Crabby's on Monday. Was some dude not even on RF Gen that beat it though, so I don't count it as a win. Going to try and get these two done before the end of the month, but looking tough now that I have started playing Witcher III.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: russlyman on June 20, 2015, 05:24:31 PM Yeah I'm stuck on air man in mega man 3. Maybe I'll fire up MegaMan 2 tomorrow and try and get that done.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: MetalFRO on June 20, 2015, 11:04:56 PM I finally got some time to sit down with MM3. Top Man, Magnet Man, Shadow Man, and Snake Man down, in that order. I'm playing via the Xbox version of the Anniversary Collection. Anyone else playing this version? The sound emulation seems a bit dodgy to me, specifically when you get a large life or energy fill, the sound is more high pitched and shrill than I remember. Also, some of the other sounds are just, off. Another thing - in the Snake Man stage, I was knocked off the elevation platforms by the floating platforms that come up out of them, a couple times when I was standing almost dead center on the platform, as if I was too far over and the rising platform bumped me off. Has anyone playing the NES cart experienced that?
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Disposed Hero on June 21, 2015, 12:31:52 AM I don't recall getting knocked off those platforms while being dead center on them, but I did get knocked off a couple of times while standing a little closer to the edge. I ended up just using Rush Jet to get through that part.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Duke.Togo on June 21, 2015, 09:36:59 AM I finally got some time to sit down with MM3. Top Man, Magnet Man, Shadow Man, and Snake Man down, in that order. I'm playing via the Xbox version of the Anniversary Collection. Anyone else playing this version? The sound emulation seems a bit dodgy to me, specifically when you get a large life or energy fill, the sound is more high pitched and shrill than I remember. Also, some of the other sounds are just, off. Another thing - in the Snake Man stage, I was knocked off the elevation platforms by the floating platforms that come up out of them, a couple times when I was standing almost dead center on the platform, as if I was too far over and the rising platform bumped me off. Has anyone playing the NES cart experienced that? Yes, this happens in the NES version as well. It seems to be a similar problem to the floating platforms in the original Mega Man, where sometimes you go right through them. I get around this by always jumping right before the platform exits the tower, and you will land on it fine. The knocking off seems to happen when it exits the tower and hits your sprite. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: JerryGreenwood on June 22, 2015, 06:36:20 AM I gotta give Capcom some credit with the password system. They basically pioneered passwords for action/side-scrollers. Passwords were still kind of a new thing when MM2 came out. Kid Icarus, Deadly Towers, and Metroid had them, but I can't think of too many other games.
It really makes these games playable if you only have 20 minutes to spare. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: russlyman on June 22, 2015, 03:00:48 PM It also helped big time back in the day when you rented those games and only had them for the weekend. If it was a save file than it got erased. At least this way you could pick up where you left off
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: singlebanana on June 23, 2015, 08:32:15 AM It also helped big time back in the day when you rented those games and only had them for the weekend. If it was a save file than it got erased. At least this way you could pick up where you left off Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk That's a great point, I really never thought of it that way. Seems like everyone is enjoying this month's playthrough. It's nice to read all the posts on this thread. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: JerryGreenwood on June 23, 2015, 02:53:41 PM Oh, here's a big one that I've been meaning to ask...
On the MM3 stage select screen, does anyone else have a slight graphical glitch near Shadow Man? I remember playing an emulator years ago and it was like this and I just figured it was because of the emulator. But my MM3 cart does this too. Is this the way it is for every MM3 cart? Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Disposed Hero on June 23, 2015, 03:20:48 PM My MM3 cart does that glitchy thing too.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: singlebanana on June 23, 2015, 04:29:00 PM My MM3 cart does that glitchy thing too. Same Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: shaggy on June 23, 2015, 09:51:25 PM I'm sorry, I've been hammered with kids sports every night during the week except Friday. Hopefully, Golden Axe will fair better for me.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Ikariniku on June 23, 2015, 11:27:16 PM Oh, here's a big one that I've been meaning to ask... On the MM3 stage select screen, does anyone else have a slight graphical glitch near Shadow Man? I remember playing an emulator years ago and it was like this and I just figured it was because of the emulator. But my MM3 cart does this too. Is this the way it is for every MM3 cart? When I noticed this glitch in my Mega Man 3 cart, I tried my Rockman 3 cart. The glitch is still there in the Japanese release. I've heard it reported that Keiji Inafune does not like Mega Man 3 because the time crunch during development was so tight there was no time for bug fixing and polishing. This glitch may be the most obvious legacy of this crunch. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: JerryGreenwood on June 24, 2015, 06:41:14 AM I've heard it reported that Keiji Inafune does not like Mega Man 3 because the time crunch during development was so tight there was no time for bug fixing and polishing. This glitch may be the most obvious legacy of this crunch. Well, he should like it, it's a great game and it could be argued that it's the best MM on NES. I really can't think of any bugs in that game besides the one on the select screen. MM4 seemed the more rushed to me than MM3.Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Ikariniku on June 24, 2015, 06:56:17 AM Well, he should like it, it's a great game and it could be argued that it's the best MM on NES. I really can't think of any bugs in that game besides the one on the select screen. MM4 seemed the more rushed to me than MM3. Well, the story I heard was that Inafune sees the game he wanted MM3 to be, and that the game it is doesn't measure up. Notably, he couldn't put in cut scenes to carry the story like he wanted. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: singlebanana on June 24, 2015, 07:56:38 AM Well, he should like it, it's a great game and it could be argued that it's the best MM on NES. I really can't think of any bugs in that game besides the one on the select screen. MM4 seemed the more rushed to me than MM3. Well, the story I heard was that Inafune sees the game he wanted MM3 to be, and that the game it is doesn't measure up. Notably, he couldn't put in cut scenes to carry the story like he wanted. I think MM3 is a great game, but there are instances when playing it where I feel like it might have been rushed. Some people point to the shorter levels compared to MM2 as an example, and to me at least, I think that MM2 looks crisper graphically (though some may argue). The inclusion of additional "hoops" to jump through before the Dr. Wiley stage seems odd and unnecessary and has no supporting storyline. I can't help but but feel like, "Why am I doing this? Who is this new enemy who takes on the traits of the MM2 bosses?" Again, I like MM3 and even would consider it a worthy successor, but playing them side-by-side, I get a better sense of the latter being a bit less polished. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: russlyman on June 24, 2015, 03:21:13 PM Switched over to MegaMan 2 last night for a bit. Got two bosses left than off to Wiley's castle. I've beaten it before recently. Figure I'd knock this out and track back over to megaman 3. We'll see
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: JerryGreenwood on June 25, 2015, 06:37:53 AM no supporting storyline. Now that you mention it, and Ikariniku mentioned it being rushed, I think I had the title screen all wrong.I've always thought that the title screen was awesome. No bells, no whistles, no story. I read it like - "Here I am. I'm Mega Man f****** 3. I'm comin' at you raw, so hit the start button and let's get it on!!" But after reading what you guys have said, I know that it wasn't intended to be taken that way and it's just the result of a rushed game. On the other hand, the boss patterns in MM3 are more sophisticated than the previous MM's. There was much more planning and design. They also took a small leap of faith and went outside-the-box by not using standard 'elements' when creating them. Snake Man?! Top Man?! A clever way to prevent it from becoming too stale. Also, I always thought a major flaw in MM2 was the weaknesses of the robot masters. Metal Blade is SUPER effective against 3 or 4 of the robot masters and most of the robot masters are weak against multiple weapons. To me, that aspect of the game seemed rushed or there was a lot of confusion about what they really wanted to achieve. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: singlebanana on June 25, 2015, 07:45:41 AM We recorded the Mega Man 2 & 3 podcast last night. Duke joined Disposed and I, so I hope you guys will give it a listen when it comes out early next month.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: russlyman on June 25, 2015, 12:40:20 PM Nice I def have to hear this one.
I'm out at 9 tonight so hoping to beat mega man 2 than back to 3 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: russlyman on June 26, 2015, 10:59:54 AM And MegaMan 2 done.
[img width=700 height=525]http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/26/b17df33ccba41bbeae7cf969b5b9b9c6.jpg[/img] [img width=700 height=525]http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/26/d56f37fb7f95c703557bb8cd38e1fdfc.jpg[/img] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: singlebanana on June 26, 2015, 01:52:35 PM Nice work Russ!
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Duke.Togo on June 26, 2015, 11:28:28 PM Congrats!
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: MetalFRO on June 27, 2015, 10:17:36 AM I've been under the weather, and haven't felt like doing anything but watching TV, but hopefully today or tomorrow I'll feel up to playing a bit, and maybe I can get farther. The 2-boss stages after the 8 main bosses are kind of brutal. Not the stages themselves, but having to fight 2 bosses and try not to burn an E-tank. That, and, since I didn't spend any time truly memorizing patterns (because I knew which weapons were effective against which bosses), with different weaknesses, I'm having to adjust what I'm doing.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: russlyman on June 28, 2015, 03:02:21 PM Still hoping to beat mega man 3 before the month is over. Still working on the re visit bosses
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: singlebanana on June 28, 2015, 05:54:46 PM Still hoping to beat mega man 3 before the month is over. Still working on the re visit bosses That seems to be the most difficult part of the game. Wiley stages aren't very long or cumbersome compared to the revisits. Best of luck! Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Disposed Hero on June 30, 2015, 09:22:10 AM Well, this is the last day of June, and I just wanted to chime in with my closing thoughts. As I mentioned before, the Mega Man games are pretty new to me. I didn't play them growing up, and I've only dabbled a little bit here and there with them over the years. The whole reason I chose to do a couple of these games for a community playthrough was to get my feet wet with the series and hopefully finally see what all the fuss is about. I'm glad to say that I 'get it' now, and after finishing MM 2 and 3, I've already started playing some of the other games in the series.
I just want to say thanks to everyone who participated this month for making this a good playthrough and for making it that much more fun for me to get acquainted with this series. Here's to more awesome playthroughs together! ;D Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: MetalFRO on June 30, 2015, 09:23:45 AM I'm not sure I'm going to make it. I downed 2 of the 4 MM2 boss rush stages last night, but MAN is that Needle Man stage brutal on the 2nd go! If you don't make it through the part that requires Rush Jet the first time, OR you use too many of the weapon energy recharge icons, you're absolutely done dealing. I have a project at work today that might go into this evening, and an appointment this evening as well, so I probably won't get a chance to play. If I hadn't been sick half of last week and this weekend, I might have squeezed it out, but it looks like I won't. Still, it's been interesting to go back and play through these games. Glad I finally took down MM2, and I may go ahead and finish MM3 anyway, just because I haven't done it legitimately since I was a kid.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Disposed Hero on June 30, 2015, 09:34:50 AM Yeah, we talked about this some on the podcast, but it's been documented that Mega Man 3's development was rushed, and I feel like the Needle Man Rush Jet sequence is one of those things that would have been ironed out if they had more time to polish the game. Like you said, if you fail that sequence once, you're screwed, and you have no other recourse but to lose the rest of your lives and restart the stage. That is terrible game design, and something I like to believe was an oversight that would have been fixed had the game spent more time in development.
Anyway, good luck with the rest of the game. Like Rich said earlier, the revisit stages are probably the hardest parts of the game, so it should be mostly downhill from there if you can get past them. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: RetroRage on June 30, 2015, 02:44:07 PM Mega Man 3 laaaaaaaaaaaag.......
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: russlyman on June 30, 2015, 02:48:15 PM Trying to finish up tonight. Damn those re visited stages
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Duke.Togo on June 30, 2015, 05:17:47 PM I'm not sure I'm going to make it. I downed 2 of the 4 MM2 boss rush stages last night, but MAN is that Needle Man stage brutal on the 2nd go! If you don't make it through the part that requires Rush Jet the first time, OR you use too many of the weapon energy recharge icons, you're absolutely done dealing. I have a project at work today that might go into this evening, and an appointment this evening as well, so I probably won't get a chance to play. If I hadn't been sick half of last week and this weekend, I might have squeezed it out, but it looks like I won't. Still, it's been interesting to go back and play through these games. Glad I finally took down MM2, and I may go ahead and finish MM3 anyway, just because I haven't done it legitimately since I was a kid. You can respawn the first couple enemies in that area to get drops. Might take a while, but possible. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Shadow Kisuragi on June 30, 2015, 08:52:52 PM I'm not sure I'm going to make it. I downed 2 of the 4 MM2 boss rush stages last night, but MAN is that Needle Man stage brutal on the 2nd go! If you don't make it through the part that requires Rush Jet the first time, OR you use too many of the weapon energy recharge icons, you're absolutely done dealing. I have a project at work today that might go into this evening, and an appointment this evening as well, so I probably won't get a chance to play. If I hadn't been sick half of last week and this weekend, I might have squeezed it out, but it looks like I won't. Still, it's been interesting to go back and play through these games. Glad I finally took down MM2, and I may go ahead and finish MM3 anyway, just because I haven't done it legitimately since I was a kid. You can respawn the first couple enemies in that area to get drops. Might take a while, but possible. Yep, this is the only recourse - kill the enemies, scroll the screen, come back. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Disposed Hero on June 30, 2015, 09:09:28 PM Isn't it impossible to make it across without any refills? If you picked them all up on a previous life, then there's no way to make it across until you restart the level and reset them, is there?
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Duke.Togo on June 30, 2015, 09:31:11 PM I want to say that the flies can be respawned on the platforms where the refill would be, but I'd have to play again to test.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: MetalFRO on July 01, 2015, 08:52:20 AM Isn't it impossible to make it across without any refills? If you picked them all up on a previous life, then there's no way to make it across until you restart the level and reset them, is there? Correct, it's not possible to cross w/o at least 1 of those refills available. And yes, I was aware of the "farming" for refills. I used that technique a couple times to refill the Rush Jet power meter, but again, without additional power-ups, you're stuck. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: singlebanana on July 01, 2015, 10:02:56 AM I want to say that the flies can be respawned on the platforms where the refill would be, but I'd have to play again to test. Nope, they don't respawn. Spent 30 minutes harvesting refills for my Rush Jet only to realize that the other refills along the way do not respawn, this making it impossible. You have to commit seppuku and make you way back........ Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: JerryGreenwood on July 01, 2015, 01:01:00 PM Couldn't beat MM2 on difficult without weapons and e-tanks. It was just too draining. The boss gauntlet room beat me up too much. Airman's projectiles are too random.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: russlyman on July 01, 2015, 03:56:40 PM I don't think I would ever attempt that. Ha. Still hoping to beat 3 soon ha
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: russlyman on July 01, 2015, 03:57:51 PM On a side note I picked up megaman powered up on the PSP & megaman maverick hunters. Started it last night. It's cool you can play as the bosses too. Did a stage as cut man. Pretty fun.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: MetalFRO on July 02, 2015, 04:56:20 PM I finished Powered Up earlier in the year. Prepare for a severe beatdown during the Dr. Wily stage. You'll want to say uncle, or possibly worse, when you hit that juncture. That is, unless you can perfect the near pixel-perfect timing of the Gutsman stage dropout platforms that make a 2nd appearance there :)
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: singlebanana on July 06, 2015, 09:49:55 AM The Playcast episode is up! Check the front page and give it a listen. I'm curious to hear all of your thoughts on the discussion thread.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: singlebanana on July 07, 2015, 02:22:14 PM I'm just going to go ahead and say we pushed this into action with our playthrough. #RFGenSeering: http://mynintendonews.com/2015/07/07/you-can-buy-an-official-capcom-mega-man-helmet-soon/
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Addicted on July 24, 2015, 08:17:02 AM Listening to the podcast:
@singlebanana: Go play Axiom Verge. You'll love it. As far as why we have such odd boxart for the US releases I would argue Anime was still niche in the 80s and a lot was done on every level to hide the products Japanese origin back then. There was still an anti-Japanese sentiment and fear that Japan's then booming economy would overtake the US. Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: singlebanana on July 24, 2015, 09:19:09 AM @singlebanana: Go play Axiom Verge. You'll love it. I have no means of playing it right now...... *sad banana* Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: JerryGreenwood on July 24, 2015, 02:44:53 PM Wow....Axiom Verge looks good.
Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Addicted on July 24, 2015, 02:55:34 PM @singlebanana: Go play Axiom Verge. You'll love it. I have no means of playing it right now...... *sad banana* Sorry to hear that. You don't have a PC that will play it? Title: Re: Mega Man 2 & 3 - Retro Playthrough - June 2015 Post by: Addicted on July 25, 2015, 01:16:53 PM @singlebanana: Go play Axiom Verge. You'll love it. I have no means of playing it right now...... *sad banana* Sorry to hear that. You don't have a PC that will play it? The reason I'm asking is I have an a Quadro FX 580 laying around I could send you.... |