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Also since you mentioned GOTY that needs to be standardized too.
Most are Game of the Year a handful are GOTY

Even though it is wordier we should probably stick with Game of the Year. Or ensure that if GOTY is the visible listing Game of the Year is listed in the alt title.


As for Alt titles since the field length still hasn't been increased it is almost useless when special or non-english characters are needed

Ok, mentioned that second option. Also the foreign title thread should probably be unstickied now.

Some titles have the word 'featuring' in it. What's the standard here? with or without an uppercase F?

The way it's written on the cover. I'm going to have to check the titles with that, now that you bring it up.

Great work as always, Flee.  Just a couple of observations.


Changing "Okami" to "Ōkami", has meant that this title appears first in alphabetical order rather than among the O's


Suggest including 'If the packaging separates title and subtitle with a hyphen use a colon instead' for DB consistency.

Special characters don't work well with search function BTW.

Search for # for example
Okami is now included in that list of broken stuff.

Well, for the Okami situation, we could always add the regular spelling as an alternate title to make it searchable again. The only thing is that it will show up first alphabetically which I can't do anything about. :P

why not use the regular spelling as the main title and the special character spelling for the alternate? not exactly accurate but better for searching/sorting. there's always going to be some exceptions to any rules you come up with, they shouldn't be 100% strict.

It's the title - we can tweak the search (probably).

fixed a few things

I have several dreamcast european game discs that are know by White Label version.

Basically, it's the full game (on most cases) with a White label and blue/black letters that were sent to reviewers and criticals before realese.

It says on the disc "Sample only. Not for re-sale." and "Pre-production copy"

Just wondering how is the best wat to name this variation for this case

1-SHENMUE [White Label Promo Disc]
2-SHENMUE [Pre-Production copy]
3-SHENMUE [Sample only. Not for re-sale]

this is my preference order, nut want to be correct, and don't know how.

Bellow is a foto.

[img width=700 height=466]http://i682.photobucket.com/albums/vv182/toze3/SEGA_ALBUM/IMG_1721.jpg[/img] (http://s682.photobucket.com/user/toze3/media/SEGA_ALBUM/IMG_1721.jpg.html)

I'm fine with #1. They're colloquially known as White Label anyways, so that'd be the best way to identify them.
Surprised OatBob didn't put those in the DC database. I'm sure he owns a few.

Way late on this one, but:

Don't spell entire words in capitals unless it's an acronym (or feaux acronym).

I know we prioritise stylistic spelling, but I've recently come across "ACA NEOGEO WAKU WAKU 7" by "HAMSTER, Co.", and yes, WAKU WAKU is capitalised in the description.  There's no good reason why NeoGeo, Waku Waku or Hamster should be written in all caps when there are legitimate standardised formats for all of these words.

I find that this is a digital title thing. Certain publishers insist on doing this. It's usually Japanese companies too. I'm totally for un-capitalizing though.

The Waku Waku example is just taken directly from Nintendo and how they formatted it: https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/aca-neogeo-waku-waku-7-switch

Hard to fault the submitter for using copy/paste, but either is fine with me unless we need to codify this. This should probably be added to the wiki and updated from there. If you guys find other things that should be added to the wiki, be sure to let me know.

Actually the submitter didn't over-capitalise, but two other entries in the DB relating to the ACA NeoGeo series did (note emphasis on past tense) in line with Nintendo's digital storefront.  It was unpleasant to look at even with only 2 entries side by side.  I dread to imagine what all 64 entries together would have looked like in a search.

Number one title gripe for me is people missing the colons out. Many times I have worked through long lists of titles adding colons in so things sort properly (I’m sad, I know)

Not sad - dedicated! ;)

Re:Ōkami

Now that the latest HD releases of this game in the DB has stopped using the Ō-symbol as the main title, can I change the previous submissions to reflect that as well? Noone really writes it like that anyway, and I know it would look a lot better when I'm sorting through my titles =)

i'm of the opinion that the accented title probably shouldn't have been accepted as the main title in the first place as it screws up any notion of an alphabetical order.  That said, from what I've seen, "Okami" still uses the accent in  the title.  It doesn't use it in the copyright info, but i don't think it ever did use it in the copyright info.

I think having it make alphabetical sense is a good enough cause. Just switch the main title for the alt if you can.

Agree in this case it should be changed to go in the correct place.

However I don’t know why that ō isnt sorted with the other o’s. I seem to remember seeing somewhere in the past other accented letters being alphabetically sorted as if they were non accented. So there must be something you can do in the coding.

I was going to bring Okami up when the site gets a coder again and ask them to look into sorting ō properly. For now changing to a standard ō makes sense though I reckon

https://www.rfgeneration.com/cgi-bin/getinfo.pl?ID=E-215-S-01900-A

Do we have a standardization for "insert silly name" Edition titles like this? They aren't technically variants of the original game because it was released on a different console, so I'd think in this case "Revival Edition" should fall under the title and not a variation title.

I formatted the title and spacing for this variant, but then I noticed that Revival Edition was a variant title and didn't know where to go from there.
https://www.rfgeneration.com/cgi-bin/getinfo.pl?ID=U-215-S-02221-A