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After talking to the other Playthrough guys we've decided to do a modern era shmup collection for December as well. This will be my month to take the lead, but I have a very limited knowledge of these games so I'm turning to everyone here to post some suggestions.

Please keep in mind that the games be reasonably prices (nothing more than $30), have been released during or after 1999, and preferably be physical games (don't want to exclude anyone due to a digitally released game).

Otomedius Excellent will most likely be a game during that month.

Alrighty, I know I'm glossing over some here, but I just did a quick visual check through our collection and wrote down noteworthy titles that fit not only the previous requirements (post '99, less than $30) and added a few more just in case; physical disc (not downloads, though we may switch to that if folks want to) and no retro compilation games that would break the post '99 modern idea.  I also nixed Dreamcast :( because all of the shmups for it seem to be going for +$30.  Also also I nixed modern fixed-screen twin-sticks like Geometry Wars.  I love 'em, but I think most folks consider them a different genre.  Also Also Wik I nixed imports, all of these were released in Region 1. 

Here's my cursory list:

PS2:
Castle Shikigami 2
Gradius V (man is this an excellent game in my book)
Silpheed: The Lost Planet

GameCube:
Chaos Field
Ikaruga (apparently this is now available sub-30 due to online sellers. huh.)

Xbox:
Xyanide (I really, really like this game.  Can go for pretty cheap too.)

Wii:
Blastworks (the main game is kinda meh, but it has several unlockable shmups that are FANTASTIC.)
Castle Shikigami III
The Monkey King (basically a remake of SMS Cloud Master)
Ocean Commander
Saint
All three games on Ultimate Shooting Collection are post '99. (Karous, Radirgy, and Chaos Field)

PS3:
Under Defeat (this came out in the States as a physical disc and can be found online for under $20.)

360:
Akai Katana (I see this at Game Stop for under $10, fantastic game)
Deathsmiles
Otomedius Excellent (I... didn't have fun with this game's clunky hit boxes, poor pacing, or hide-the-screen-when-people-stop-by content, but if it gets picked, I'll... oh well.)
PopCap Arcade Volume 2 on disc has Heavy Weapon, which is actually far better than it seems; much more fun than another game on here that starts with O and ends in disaster...
Raiden IV (pick me! pick me!)
None of the games in Raiden Fighters Aces are post '99, FYI.
Wartech Senko Ronde

So that should at least get the ball rolling.

dur, and I see you did mention physical only.

Aaaannnddd I was about to humorously post a youtube of Olivia Newton-John's video to 'Physical.'  And then I watched it.  And I cannot unwatch it.  Suddenly Otomedius isn't looking as bad... :P

I'll have to look into these games. Thanks Slackur.

I think slackur has made some great pics, but here are a few additions that might also work well.

PS2:
R-Type Final

GC:
*slackur named pretty much the only two shooters on the system...so sad*

XBox:
*same*

Wii:
Sin & Punishment Star Successor


What is this PS3 and 360 you speak off??  :P

Good list Slackur!

I have Otomedius and Deathsmiles and have been meaning to pick up Akai Katana. I actually got a promo email from Amazon today with it, it's $11.99 there. The vanilla version of Otomedius is $6.25 at the moment.

Is it safe to say you can't go wrong with any Gradius game?

And Rich I have been wanting to play S & P since I picked it up a while back. Also very affordable.

I'm not a big shmup person but I'm getting excited for this for some reason.

Might be nice to run Gradius III and Gradius (NES) side-by-side one week. Or do a similar thing with R-Types (PS2) and Super R-Type (SNES). I like the Xyanide pick a lot. I've heard great things about this game and it's very reasonable too. Don't look on eBay for a price, since there is only one listed at an insane amount. Amazon has some used copies well under $10. Plus, we haven't played anything on XBox yet......just sayin'

AAHH!  I KNEW I forgot a few.  R-Type Final is great, tough, and has some advanced scoring mechanics.  BTW, R-Types is technically  a PSX/One release, though it will certainly play on a PS2.

S&P Star Successor for Wii is one I thought about mentioning, but I felt it didn't fit enough into the traditional 'shmup' mold.  That being said, it's a fantastic game and I can pick up a copy for someone for less than $5 (if the store still has it, which it has for a few weeks.) 

Gradius is a perennial favorite series favorite for me, but the only games that fit post '99 is Gradius IV, (which is perhaps the weakest game in the series IMHO) Gradius Advance for GBA, (great game, but are we doing consoles?) and the super-duper great Gradius V.  But I'm a sucker for any of 'em.

Akai Katana is excellent as well, and it's another I can probably grab for under $10 locally if they still have it.

I... won't refuse to play Otomedius for this, but it really is (IMO) the worst game we've mentioned thus far.  The hit-boxes and bullet patterns are frustrating and poorly designed, and the game really drags.  The only thing I liked about it was the music, which was an excellent remix compilation of the shooters the game was parodying.  The fact that Konami got it right the first time with the superbly playable Parodius series and turned out this poor modern equivalent series must have come from the same committee refusing to release Suikoden II on either PSN or a translation of the PSP compilation. :P

Anyway, if we all have an Xbox, Xyanide gets a thumbs up from me also.

(If anyone wants me to nab Akai Katana or S&P:SS for those prices, shoot me a PM.  I'd love to help out.  May get them anyway just to have backups to give out later if no-one wants 'em.)

Yes, I meant R-Type Final and not R-Types. I thought about R-Types and R-Type Delta on the retro side, but those can be pricey. :(

Great suggestions. I think R-Type Final and Sin and Punishment should make the list of games. Now for just one more. Let's make this fun. The very next game to be suggested will be added to the Decemeber Shmup line up.

Xyanide, since I just ordered it. :)

Fortunately for me I have those two particular titles.

I might just join in on this bad boy...

Alright! We have our games!

So what are these officially?

Officially, they are the game I think we can play in December. Unofficially, they are fancy drink coasters.

What are the 4 games? You know what I mean.

Oh, right. The games are Otomedius Excellent, R-Type Final, Sin and Punishment, and Xyanide.

Looks like I'll be able to play 3 out of 4 of them. Cool! Looking forward to it.

If anyone hasn't posted any suggestions for the Retro shmups, please do so soon. I'll probably start the voting in the next few days.

Nice. The only one I don't have is Xyanide, and I can probably get my hands on it by then.

@Slackur, sorry about Otomedius, but this whole thing was born out of Duke.Togo requesting that specific game for a playthrough. By all means feel free to skip it.

LOL Riots!  Anger!  Pointy things in your general direction!  Thanks for the kindness, though no need to apologize.  We're all here to have fun, and while my fun is obviously infinitely superior to your fun, games are games.  I'll probably play when my kids aren't around to ask why those cartoon ladies are carrying water balloons. 

I'll keep an eye out for another copy of Xyanide for anyone else wanting to join in.

Glad you brought this up. I have been thinking about how we can help each other find playthrough titles and created this thread: http://www.rfgeneration.com/forum/index.php?topic=14546.msg207742#new

Yer cool.  I'll try to keep an eye on that thread.

FWIW, I just tried Xyanide on my 360 and confirmed it will not work, so an original Xbox will be required.  Before anyone asks.

Not that I've been impressed with anything running on the 360's original Xbox emulation.  Except maybe Doom 3.  I seem to remember that running much better. 

I digress.

Also of important note; if you look for Xyanide to purchase online, you may see a listing for a PS2, PC, and PSP version.  It isn't always listed as such (even on the cover) but these are actually the sequel, Xyanide Resurrection.  The PS2 and PSP versions are imports (obviously not an issue for PSP players.)  The PC version is indeed super cheap, but for a reason; I still can't get the silly thing to run, and I'm pretty sure the default installer has malware.  :grrr:

I bring this up in case someone was thinking a PS2 version would be more accessible than the Xbox game.

I popped in Otomedius, and it's just as I remembered.  :'(

 Then I popped in Xyanide and it was just as I remembered.  8)  That intro is just so, so cool to me.

So the only version for our playthough is the XBOX one, correct? The PS2, PC, and PSP titles are not the same game as the XBOX title?

True.

I haven't played Otomedius yet, hence my request. It's a Konami shooter, so I find it difficult to think it will be bad. A little sad Gradius V didn't make the cut, but a nice list. I'll be in for 2 for sure, and maybe 3. It depends if I want to drag the Xbox back out.

Any reason to pull out the Duke and try to wrap your hands around that beast is a good reason, right?

I noticed how bad that sounds as I typed it, but screw it, I'm overdue for some comical banter this week. :leo:

From what I played of Otomedius it seemed a fairly accurate remake of Gradius, I would be surprised if it's all that bad.