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Title: Death on Bread
Post by: Lord Nepenthean on March 28, 2005, 05:11:45 PM
The people at Burger King have really out-done the competition this time.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7317259/

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Breakfast just got a whole lot bigger
Burger King introduces two huge new sandwiches
Burger King

     
MSNBC staff and news service reports
Updated: 3:17 p.m. ET March 28, 2005

Burger King launched two new breakfast sandwiches Monday that are the latest weapons in an emerging race among fast-food companies to lure customers with bigger, fattier and more filling menu offerings.


Burger King's "Enormous Omelet Sandwich" features a two-egg omelet topped with two slices of American cheese, three strips of bacon and a sausage patty on a hoagie-style bun. At 730 calories and 47 grams of fat, it is even heftier than the company's famed "Whopper," which weighs in at 700 calories and 42 grams of fat.

The other new breakfast item, the "Western Omelet Croissan'wich," is a lighter pick with a mere 320 calories and 17 grams of fat.

Officials at Miami-based Burger King Corp. said that healthier choices are also available, but surveys showed customers wanted bigger sandwiches.

“By expanding our indulgent breakfast sandwich menu, Burger King restaurants now offer even more alternatives for our guests who want a convenient and filling breakfast,” said Russ Klein, Burger King's chief global marketing officer.

The omelet sandwich will stay on the menu at about $2.99, but the Western sandwich is in stores only until May 8.


Title: Re: Death on Bread
Post by: CatchFiveBats on March 28, 2005, 05:15:30 PM
And we wonder why Americans are overweight...


Title: Re: Death on Bread
Post by: Lord Nepenthean on March 28, 2005, 05:41:32 PM
Well, everyone knows there is a weight epidemic going on in this country, but who cares, right?  We've earned it!


Title: Re: Death on Bread
Post by: Izret101 on March 28, 2005, 06:15:30 PM
Most definately we earned it.
If they make shit like this peope will buy it.
I do admit eggs bacon cheese and sausage sounds deicious. I would get one.
But i would not by any means make it a regular event one to try not to be breakfast everyday. As many people will end up doing.


Title: Re: Death on Bread
Post by: TraderJake on March 28, 2005, 07:05:55 PM
I think death on bread is a good name for it, but at least it isn't the instant heart attack that is the Hungry Man Meals.  What quicker way is there to cake your arteries (besides eating a bucket of lard) other than by eating one of those scrumptious meals?

As for Burger King's new offerings, I say so what. People have a choice to eat it, and they know the consequences, and there is a hefty tradeoff for eating one of those breakfast sandwiches. If people would only eat cherrios.....


Title: Re: Death on Bread
Post by: tholly on March 28, 2005, 07:12:58 PM
the next generation of children will be the first generation in the history of the US that will not have a longer average life span than their parents.....due to the obesity problem in the US


Title: Re: Death on Bread
Post by: Lord Nepenthean on March 28, 2005, 08:07:44 PM
I wonder if that will actually happen....  It would be pretty pathetic if it does.

And, for the record, I do eat Cheerios - Multi-Grain Cheerios at that.  Those things are even more healthy than the regular kind.  They're tastier too!


Title: Re: Death on Bread
Post by: Antimind on March 28, 2005, 11:32:21 PM
If people cared less about what everyone else thought and ate what the fuck they wanted without feeling guilty they'd be much happier. I'm glad BK came out with them sammiches cause there are still Americans like myself that CAN eat that much food and not gain a pound. Boo fucking hoo America is overweight. So what? Why should the rest of us suffer. Why should overweight people deprive themselves of good (though potentially unhealthy) food just because they're overweight? Who's to say what's healthy anyway? One minute they tell you milk is good for you an the next they say it isn't. Nobody can make up their damn minds about what's good and what isn't. I can. I say if it tastes good eat it.


Title: Re: Death on Bread
Post by: Arrrhalomynn on March 29, 2005, 01:06:28 AM
Nobody will ever say being overweight is healthy and nobody will ever say that breakfast thing at Burger King is healthy. Comparing milk to a 730 calories deathburger doesn't even make a little sense.

And unhealthy food causes a whole lot more problems besides gaining weight.


Title: Re: Death on Bread
Post by: Lord Nepenthean on March 29, 2005, 01:18:48 AM
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If people cared less about what everyone else thought and ate what the fuck they wanted without feeling guilty they'd be much happier.  


Yeah, until they get diabetes and have a stroke.  The more overweight a person is, the more likely they are to be prone to diabetes, heart disease, heart attacks, strokes, and much more.  Think it's just about being overweight?  Come on.  You totally missed the point.


Title: Re: Death on Bread
Post by: Lord Nepenthean on March 29, 2005, 02:41:07 AM
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Why should overweight people deprive themselves of good (though potentially unhealthy) food just because they're overweight?


Here are a few pretty good reasons from the August 2004 issue of National Geographic (pg. 52):


Title: Re: Death on Bread
Post by: Izret101 on March 29, 2005, 03:34:53 AM
Thanks for that graph Mike.
Now i want to continue working out even more.
I feel so out of shape.


Title: Re: Death on Bread
Post by: Lord Nepenthean on March 29, 2005, 03:50:49 AM
Yeah me too.  I'm thin, but pretty much just skin and bones.  I have absolutely no upper-body muscle, and have lost a lot of what I had in my lower body.  I ought to start running again, or get back into cycling (and stick with it this time).


Title: Re: Death on Bread
Post by: den68 on March 29, 2005, 04:48:26 AM
well based on that chart you can count me in the danger zone. according to the chart my max healthy weight for my height is 170 lbs. I haven't weighed that since freshman year of high school. I know I need to loose weight but 170 is silly.

I wouldn't say I'm in great shape but I'm no blob either. where I do notice the weight is in my legs. the extra bulk is rough on my knees an ankles. especially when I play hockey with all the quick stops, starts and change of direction.


Title: Re: Death on Bread
Post by: Antimind on March 29, 2005, 04:49:17 AM
I'm well aware of the health risks but everything is a fucking health risk. We all gotta die sometime so why deprive yourself of what may be the little enjoyment you get? That to me makes no sense. When I die I'll die happy.


Title: Re: Death on Bread
Post by: Hydrobond on March 29, 2005, 05:58:35 AM
I don't know about everyone else, but I care whether other people are fat because of the increased risk of diseases, and doctor's/hospital bills associated with getting sick.  The more fat people there are in this country, the more expensive it is to get health insurance. Its like car insurance; the more people that drive wrecklessly, the more expensive car insurance become for everyone.  

The thing other people seem to be ignoring in this thread is that people who are overweight not only die earlier, but have weight-induced diseases, like arthritis, much earlier than non-overweight people do.  So yeah, you gotta die sometime, but if you are overewight its not as if you will be dying happy.  

Not to mention that it has been shown that people who exercise regularly are not only healthier but happier than their non-exercising counterparts.  Running has been shown to increase levels of endorhpines, the bodies natural morphine, in the brain, while other exercise increases serotonin, a mood elevator and appetite suppressant.


Title: Re: Death on Bread
Post by: Arrrhalomynn on March 29, 2005, 08:57:47 AM
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I'm well aware of the health risks but everything is a fucking health risk. We all gotta die sometime so why deprive yourself of what may be the little enjoyment you get? That to me makes no sense. When I die I'll die happy.


I can't even imagine how pathetic someone's life must be that they need food like this to improve it and be happy.


Title: Re: Death on Bread
Post by: two_scoop_steve on March 29, 2005, 11:25:55 AM
MMMMM I want one of those!!!


Title: Re: Death on Bread
Post by: Izret101 on March 29, 2005, 11:50:23 AM
I showed my friend this thread and all he said was "HOLY SHIT! More fat than a Whopper i need one of those bad boys."

I suppose he will end up with one of these some morning soon.
I think all of us have to admit that this sounds like it would taste great.
It is just the unhealthynessthat is turning everyone off.


Title: Re: Death on Bread
Post by: Lord Nepenthean on March 29, 2005, 11:57:33 AM
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I'm well aware of the health risks but everything is a fucking health risk. We all gotta die sometime so why deprive yourself of what may be the little enjoyment you get? That to me makes no sense. When I die I'll die happy.


I don't think there's anything glamorous about having strokes or living with diabetes, or even arthritis for that matter.  When I was about twelve, I knew a kid who was overweight.  He suddenly lost a LOT of weight very quickly.  Eventually he went to the emergency room and could have died.  Please tell me how happy his life will be with diabetes now.  Several emergencies have happened since, threatening his life.  I'm sure there will be more in the future.  If he doesn't "deprive" himself of certain foods, he will die.  He might not have had that problem had he not been overweight.

Or, take my aunt's two brothers.  (Not really my aunt anymore because I think my she and my uncle got divorced.)  Her two brothers were both severely overweight.  I can't remember exact numbers, but they were something like 600 lbs.  They did have some sort of genetic disorder (my aunt was huge too), but it was really out of hand.  Neither of them is alive today.  They both died before age 40 because of weight-related problems.

My grandfather was overweight, smoked, and drank heavily.  He died twenty years ago in his sixties.  My grandmother, on the other hand, is a normal weight and is still very healthy.  She is 80 years old.  Is she happy?  Yes.  I'd much rather be happy and healthy for an extra twenty years than die early or have to deal with many of the painful and/or life-controlling problems associated with being overweight.  

Sure, I have to die sometime, but if I'm happy, I'd rather it be later than sooner....  or at least not burdened by something like heart disease or diabetes (which would limit my food intake even more than the average healthy diet).


Title: Re: Death on Bread
Post by: Lord Nepenthean on March 29, 2005, 12:02:29 PM
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I showed my friend this thread and all he said was "HOLY SHIT! More fat than a Whopper i need one of those bad boys."

I suppose he will end up with one of these some morning soon.
I think all of us have to admit that this sounds like it would taste great.
It is just the unhealthynessthat is turning everyone off.



Oh it's one thing to try one, but eating that kind of food regularly (especially if you're not really active) is where the problems come in.  If my dad eats a fatty breakfast, it isn't as much of a problem for him because he's doing physical work all day and may not eat lunch.  If his brother did, however, it would be worse, because his brother sits in an office every day.

I for one might try one just to see if I die, but I definitely would not eat more than that.  I doubt I could even finish it, especially for breakfast.  They just sound soooooo disgustingly unhealthy.  When I eat something like that in the morning, my body just feels gross all day.


Title: Re: Death on Bread
Post by: Sauza12 on March 30, 2005, 07:09:14 AM
Honestly, that sandwich looks tasty as hell.  Half the reason that I work out is so I can eat stuff like this and not be huge.  It might make staying in shape a little harder, but It's a trade off that I think is worth it.

Also, BMI is absolutley worthless.  According to that chart, Arnold Schwarzenegger is morbidly obese.  The BMI index doesn't take muscle tone into account when measuring peole.  I am 5' 10" and 195 pounds, so that would put me into the overwieght zone, almost into obese.  However, I can also bench 300 pounds.  I probably could stand to lose a few pounds,  but I am nowhere near obese.


Title: Re: Death on Bread
Post by: Hydrobond on March 30, 2005, 11:12:07 AM
While you make a valid point, there are better sources for calculating BMI.  The online calculators take into account body type and other factors before calculating your BMI.  Also, this is meant to be more of a guidline.  Someone like the guvernator knows that he is (or was as the case seems to be) in shape, I don't think anyone could argue that he is overweight.


Title: Re: Death on Bread
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on March 31, 2005, 02:48:13 PM
Dude that sounds GOOD!!!!! That chart tells me I'm a healthy weight (didn't need it to tell me) so I'm gonna go get one or two and laugh at fat people. But really, all you need to keep skinny is to just move, lots.