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Hello fellow RFGenners!

Please use this thread to make suggestions for us to use as both Modern and Retro playthrough titles in the future.

If you can, tell us a little bit about the game and why you think it would be good for a month long group playthrough.

Thank you for your input!

CURRENT SUGGESTIONS

RETRO
Nintendo - Ninja Gaiden (NES), Stryder (NES), Bionic Commando (NES), Tetrisphere (N64), Act Raiser (SNES), Young Merlin (SNES), Metal Gear (NES), Conker’s Bad Fur Day (N64), Zelda: Majora’s Mask (N64), Goemon’s Great Adventure (N64), Jet Force Gemini (N64), Blast Corps (N64), SMB 1 & 2 (NES), Soul Blazer (SNES), FF Mystic Quest (SNES), Uniracers (SNES), Pokemon [Red & Blue] (GB), Rygar (NES), Ninja Gaiden (NES), Double Dragon series (NES), Star Tropics (NES), Willow (NES), Crystalis (NES), Final Fight (SNES)

Sega - Lost Vikings (Gen & SNES), Shinobi III (Gen), Shining Force II (Gen), Starflight (Gen), Zillion (SMS), Shadow Run (Gen), Panzer Dragoon (Sat), Comix Zone (Gen), Phantasy Star II (Gen)

Playstation - FF IV (PSX), Brave Fencer Musashi (PSX), Rayman (PSX), Croc (PSX), Loaded (PSX), Mega Man Legends (PSX), Metal Gear Solid (PSX), Twisted Metal II (PSX), Allundra (PSX), Syphon Filter (PSX), Wild Arm/Alter F

MODERN
Nintendo: No More Heroes (Wii & PS3), Luigi’s Mansion (GC), Metroid Prime (GC), Resident Evil (GC), Legend of Zelda: Link Between Worlds (3DS), Shovel Knight (Wii U, 3DS, PC)

Sega: Shenmue (DC)

Playstation: Beyond: Two Souls (PS3), Dark Cloud (PS2), Metal Gear Solid 3 (PS2), Neo Contra (PS2), Valkyria Chronicles (PS3), Dragon’s Dogma & DD: Dark Arisen (PS3/360), Mirror's Edge (PS3,360,PC), Metal Gear Rising Revengeance (PS3,360), Deux Ex Human Revolution (360,PS3,Wii U, PC), Mass Effect 2 or 3 (PS3, 360, PC), Virtue’s Last Reward (Vita, 3DS), South Park: Stick of Truth (PS3/360/PC), Dishonored (PS3), Nier (PS3), Simpsons Hit and Run (PS2/Xbox)

XBox: The Wolf Among Us (XBLA/PSN/PS3/Steam), Bayonetta (X360 / PS3), BioShock Infinite (X360 / PS3 / PC), Deus Ex: Human Revolution (X360 / PS3 / WiiU / PC), Resident Evil: Revelations (X360 / PS3 / WiiU / PC); Fable (XBox); Phantom Dust (XBox), Crackdown (360), Catherine (PS3/360)

MONTHLY COMPETITIONS

Racing games (F-Zero, Mario Kart, R.C. Pro Am, etc.)
NES Competition cart games


PAST PLAYTHROUGHS

December 2012/January 2013 - The Last Story

2013
April - Batman Arkham Asylum
June - 16 Bit Disney (Aladdin / The Jungle Book / The Lion King / Goof Troop)
July/August - Super Mario RPG
September - Ducktales Remastered / Castle of Illusion
October - Castlevania II Simon’s Quest / Fragile Dreams
November - Oddworld Abe’s Oddysee / Max Payne 3
December - Streets of Rage 1, 2, and 3 / Crazy Taxi
 
2014
January - Mischief Makers / Zelda Windwaker
February - Parasite Eve / Kingdom Hearts
March - Phantasy Star / The Last of Us
April - Atari 2600 Activision Challenge (Pitfall!, Kaboom!, Spider Fighter, Seaquest, Stampede, Keystone Kapers, Enduro, Sky Jinx) / Magical Starsign
May - Donkey Kong Country 1 & 2 / Lost in Shadow
June - Suikoden / Shadow of the Colossus
July - Chrono Trigger / PC Indie Mix (Minecraft, Gone Home, The Stanley Parable, and Dear Esther)
August - Beyond Oasis / Muramasa The Demon Blade
September - Suikoden II / Ico
October - Castlevania Symphony of the Night / Alan Wake
November - Super Metroid / System Shock 2
December - Retro Shmups (Gradius, U.N. Squadron, Lightening Force, Raycrisis)/Modern Shmups (R-Type Final,
Xyanide, Sin & Punishment, Otomedius Excellent)
 
2015
January - Kid Icarus / 50 Cent: Blood on the Sand
February - Zelda: Link to the Past / 999
March - Medievil / Batman: Arkham Origins
April - Paper Mario / Tomb Raider (2013)
May - Shining Force / Kirby’s Epic Yarn       
June - Mega Man 2 & 3 / Mass Effect
July - Golden Axe I-III / Warhammer 40K:Space Marine
August - Little Nemo / Spec Ops: The Line
September - Metal Gear Solid / Indigo Prophecy
October - Castlevania: Bloodlines / Resident Evil
November - Secret of Evermore / Gravity Rush
December - Contra / Rolling Thunder 2 / Metal Slug 3
 
2016
January - Super Mario Bros. 3 / Super Mario World
February - Folklore
March - Life is Strange
April - Y’s: Books I & II
May - Bully
June - Illusion of Gaia
July - Uncharted
August - Legend of Zelda (quests 1&2) / Jaws
September - LEGO Batman 2
October - Shadow of Destiny
November - Heavy Rain (100th game played!!)
December - F-Zero / Road Rash II / Burnout Revenge
 
2017
January - Secret of Mana
February - Murdered: Soul Suspect
March - Diablo
April - Child of Light
May - Syberia
June - Enslaved: Odyssey to the West
July - Shining Force II
August - Journey (with The Cartridge Club)
September - The Last Guardian
October - Until Dawn
November - Nunya
December - ???
   

Ninja Gaiden!!

For retro, I'd suggest any version of Final Fantasy IV. Easy to pick up, engaging story, and plenty of platforms to choose from when playing it.

For current, might I suggest Beyond Two Souls. Definitely a good game, takes awhile and has plenty of reasons to play through again. I've already beaten it and would love to play again. Only drawbakc would be its exclusivity.

we try to cover as many people as possible, but i don't think exclusivity would stop us completely. being a collecting site there are so many people who have all or almost all modern consoles, i would be surprised if the numbers on an exclusive playthrough were much lower than a cross-platform one. the very first playthrough was The Last Story which was exclusive, and that was fairly active.

PS3 has a lot of great exclusive titles for community playthroughs, i'd be surprised if one wasn't done someday :)

Agree with techwizard re: exclusivity. Even though we had a small group for Fragile Dreams we had a great time.

FFIV is a good suggestion. I never finished it, but it's short, fast moving, and pretty easy.

Fleach and I have been discussing doing a Quantic Dream game since the get-go. I haven't gotten my hands on Beyond yet but it's just a matter of time.

I've been wanting to buy Beyond: Two Souls since it came out, but since there are so many games on my backlog I'm waiting for it go on sale. I be so excited to go through Indigo Prophecy, Heavy Rain, and Beyond in these playthroughs.

A game being exclusive to a certain console isn't an issue as techwizard pointed out. I'm actually biased towards the PS3 for a few reasons and so I tend to vouch for many PlayStation titles.

What do you guys think of PC games as part of the playthroughs? There are excellent retro and modern PC games.

For retro I suggest Stryder or Bionic Commando. It's been forever since I beat them.

Stryder is a fun side scrolling game where you travel back to previously places to get other items to access new areas. It has a ninja feel to it and I really enjoyed the music.

Bionic commando uses a grappling hook allowing you to move. There is no jump. This helps balance the game play fighting against enemies.

Which one? I know that the first two on the NES are affordable and fairly easy to find. However, my concern would be around the difficultly. Would this be a title that might frustrate people to the point of putting down their controller? I don't know, could be.

For the modern playthrough, I've always heard that Ninja Gaiden Black (XBox) is a phenomenal game. I own it, but have yet to get around to playing it. Anyone have any thoughts on this game? I'm curious.

Two good suggestions. I have fond memories of Stryder growing up, but don't think it's one I have ever beaten. Bionic Commando is one of those games that I've always wanted to move to my "I finally beat this damn game" list. Again, it's difficult and it takes some time to get down the mechanics of that claw, but I think it would be a good choice if members could make the effort to stick with it.

I have never beaten Ninja Giaden. It's a fun play through but would be hard for check points since you can't put the game down and pick it back up the next day.

+1 for Bionic Commando. It's well worth the effort. Strider has its own set of problems based on platform played.

And the Genesis and NES versions are completely different I believe though I've never played the former.

FFIV is a good one, just re-acquired it and don't have a reason to play it. I like the idea of a Phantasy Star Playthrough (I-IV), Shining Force 1 or 2, Lost Vikings, Shinobi III, Castlevania: SOTN, Addams Family (sms, genesis, nes, snes), also like the Bionic Commando idea.

Those are some good ideas, Mike! I like the Phantasy Stay suggestion. It'd be nice to play a non-Nintendo RPG

I've mentioned some before, but here are some that I think could be interesting:

Streets of Rage (2 is probably the best, but they are short enough you could even do the trilogy in a month). Cheap and easy to acquire due to many compilations.

Tetrisphere - easy to acquire, many different modes, can compete for high score

Otomedius Excellent - It would be fun to have any good shooter, but this one is modern Konami, cheap, and has achievements

The Wolf Among Us - Episodic, so could wait until season is finished, or tackle them as they come out

No More Heroes - Available on Wii and PS3, interesting game, could use same achievement criteria for the Wii version, and it would give me a reason to play it again ;)

Alan Wake - Everyone tells me this is good, and a community playthrough would encourage me to sit down with it

Excellent picks Duke. So excellent, you may see one in particular very soon ;)

Ou la la! I wonder what game that could be.

#winning

Just though of another one maybe for December. Gremlins 2 for NES. I always watch the movie around the holiday because it happens on Xmas eve so thought it would be a Xmas kind of game. Super fun to play.

Just though of another one maybe for December. Gremlins 2 for NES. I always watch the movie around the holiday because it happens on Xmas eve so thought it would be a Xmas kind of game. Super fun to play.

Die Hard is a christmas NES title too. :P

Is Gremlins 2 set at Christmas time? I know the first movie was.

Die Hard is a little too pricey for a playthrough. :)

You are correct that's what I kinda meant. The movie is Xmas time and the nes game is based on the second movie which isn't around Xmas lol

Die hard would be brutal to play through ha

Huh...I find copies of Die Hard all the time for < $20. Guess I should pick up a few more.

Uhhhh......yeah man. Grab those. Quickly.

I've suggested a few to Single Banana but I'll post a few retro's here too. I realize the length or difficulty of the game is very important. I also think the less mainstream the better as I believe a play-through would be more enjoyable with games we all don't know like the back of our hands. Finally, a game that you can talk about. I love Marble Madness as much as the next guy, but I really don't have anything to say about it.

Phantasy Star (SMS) - My favorite game. Criminally underrated because very few people played it when it came out. The best graphics ever on an 8-bit system (fact), great music, great animation, charming, smart, deep, inventive, unique. It's a shame so few people played this when it came out. It came out in 1987 and is still /insert positive adjective/ than most 16-bit RPGs.

Phantasy Star II (GEN) - My other favorite game. So far ahead of it's time. A top echelon plot, ground breaking storyline (a certain RPG copied part of it and got credit for being so innovative), and one of the best endings in video game history.

Starflight (GEN) - Very unique and should be a new experience for most people. I think it would spur a lot of discussion because it's not straight-forward and there are a ton of variables.

Act Raiser (SNES) - An excellent action/sim game. The length, difficultly, and availability would make a great play-through.

Out of this World/Another World (3DO, SNES, GEN, PC, other?) - Above average difficulty, very unique, nice password system, not everyone has played it.

Strider (NES and GEN) - I saw this posted earlier. Two completely different games but both fun. One by itself might be too short for a play-through, but the both of them combined would be great.

Some quickies

Young Merlin (SNES) - A pretty fun Zelda-style game. Never finished it, got stuck near the end.

Kid Icarus (NES) - Can't believe they never made a Super Nintendo version. Could've been great.

Zillion (SMS) - Sega's Metroid. Unfortunately, no password.

Shadow Run (SNES) - Cyberpunk heaven.

I really like a lot of these suggestions.  I know it's been mentioned a lot already, but I've had the Phantasy Star series on my mind since I've recently acquired most of the series.  Shadowrun is another game I was considering suggesting myself.  I played that one a good bit as a kid but could never get very far....

These are all good suggestions and we will definitely take them into consideration. I would like to run some SMS titles in the future, but have concerns that many of our members do not have that system. Good thing there are power converters out there, though at the cost of those and the price of the game(s) it might be tough. Maybe I could start a thread so see how many members would be interested in SMS titles.

BTW, my local store has a boxed converter for $30 if anyone needs it. :)

I'm a big SMS guy. Atrocious marketing and no third party support was it's biggest saboteur. There are very few good games unique to the console. A lot of sports/shooting games, games that can be found on Genesis, and games that have a simple presentation akin to early NES games.

I know the library very well and I can only think of 4 or 5 good games that would work for a play-through.

Man SMS has the best version of Double Dragon! It actually has two player support and better graphics. NES can suck it!

Wholeheartedly agree.

I tried to play Fantasy Zone on the NES and I almost threw up in my mouth.  :yuck:

Ouch :( I love that version

Have the powers that be, decided on the December playthrough games, yet? Need to find out if I am going to have to scramble for a game, or if I will pass again.

We are getting together tonight to discuss it, but typically post it about a week before the end of the month. Expect an announcement soon Mike. :)

Don't worry, Mike. Crabby will definitely have any games you'll need for the playthroughs.

I can just see you bursting through the doors of Game Quest all in a frenzy yelling, "I need this game for next month's playthough!!! Rawr!"

Crabmaster has definitely been the driving force in helping me build my collection in the past few months. Its a lot like being a kid in a toy store. He laughed the other day when I hung out in his store the entire duration it was open that day.

I guess you can include me this summer. I'm planning a little trip out west.

What do you like on your pizza? ;)

The more the merrier, Fleach. Prince George is very gamer friendly despite being the most dangerous city in Canada for 3 consecutive years.

 As for pizza topping, anything but pineapple! :)

It certainly seems Prince George is by no means a wasteland when it comes to games. Crabby is getting some incredible stuff in the store.

The December games have been picked and an announcement article has been submitted. Expect it within 24 hours.

What kind of games do you guy want to see in January? It's the one year anniversary of the Community Playthrough so maybe another adventure/RPG to commemorate the first playthrough which was The Last Story.

Ohhh, sorry. Try the SMS version! I think most people consider it the better version. I didn't mean to offend.

If it's adventure/RPG, Phantasy Star (no psp version) or Starflight please  ::)

December Playthroughs are now posted on the main page. You're welcome Sega fans. :)

just a heads up, we (especially me) really have our eyes set on the january retro playthrough being something N64 ;) but a poll will be going up in a day or so to decide which game specifically. i'm narrowing it down to 5 n64 options, with a 6 option as "other" and for that you can add a comment with your suggestion. if "other" wins out and there are more people requesting a non-n64 title then we'll go with whatever the people want, but i'm hoping we can get an n64 title going soon :)

I really like the idea of playing an N64 game.  I don't think I've really played an N64 game since the 90's, and I've amassed quite a sizable N64 collection recently.  I think it's about time I dusted off the old N64.   :)

I like N64, but I haven't owned one in 15 years and aside from the early releases, I'm completely unfamiliar with it's library. Hope to play a new (to me) one!

On the modern side, Fleach and I are looking to do something from the Playstation 2 and/or original XBox. Anyone have any favorites or games they'd like to see featured from those platforms?

I've been meaning to replay MGS 3. Though that would do away with the X-Bawks side of things.

Not a bad suggestion anyway with all the new re-releases.

I love the original Metal Gear on the NES and even considered that for a playthrough.

Dark Cloud on PS2 was a great game. Also, Neo Contra, and to a lesser extent - only because I've never met anyone who's played it - Extermination.

Good game. That would definitely get people talking and asking questions. Along with Castlevania II, I think it's one of the few games that are literally impossible without a guide or some kind of help.

Eh, beat it with no guide when I was 12. :)  It can be done.

I would also be interested in a future attempt at Metal Gear. I own it but haven't ever given it any serious effort. Castlevania II was another game like that for me and October actually motived me into playing, from beginning to end, for the first time ever. 

Metal Gear is on my Want-To-Play list, but I'd be disappointed to find out it's not my kind of game after paying retail price. If I found it in the wild I wouldn't mind.

Great suggestion though. I'll vouch for it.

Probably a tough sell, but the first Ys.

Looks like a Metal Gear themed month would be pretty popular. Maybe we could do the NES game and one of the Solids in the same month, or Revengeance to switch it up, as I haven't played that one yet and it's pretty cheap now.

This game is on a LOT of different systems, so would at least bring up some interesting discussion about the differences.

Agreed Duke. You have: SMS, PS2, TurboCD, Saturn, PSP, and DS to get this game on. Im just looking for an excuse since I got the Ys I & II collection with my TurboDuo from Crabby last month. Plus I own it on SMS as well.

On NES....with no help....when you were 12?! You must be Doogie Howser.

I'll vouch for a MG NES playthrough any day.

I have a suggestion about how these playthroughs are determined. Techwizard and others might already be on the same page considering the way January is shaping up.

Instead of a bunch of us trying to decide on one game out of thousands for a month, perhaps we should pick a system for the up coming month. Then discuss games for that system and choose 5 which would be put on a ballot to vote on.

Example - February is NES. We all toss out a bunch of titles. From there, the mods can choose 5 titles (or whatever number works). Then we all vote on those 5.

I want to play a bunch of different games, but I'm sure other people want to too. It can get too congestive if everyone throws out 10 different titles on various systems. As I said in a different thread, if I have one vote, it's always going to be for Phantasy Star. It's a waste of a vote.....unless of course there is a month for SMS and Phantasy Star is an option.

Side note - This also might eliminate the option to vote "other". In January's poll, I voted other, but again, it's basically a waste of a vote because I didn't vote for an N64 game. Using my February/NES example, if the mods can choose 5 games that seem to be the most popular among us, there should be no need to vote "other".

when i first thought of doing a poll that was more or less how i imagined doing it, but i added the other category in case there wasn't much enthusiasm to play n64. i really wanted to make sure whatever we played was something most people wanted, or at least a lot of people. i do see what you mean though, there are quite a few suggestions for "other" popping up now. maybe we'll try that next time we do a poll.

I know loads of people here are Zelda and Mario fans so how does everyone feel about playing through all the Zelda games, or all the major Mario games starting from the NES all the way up to the recent consoles?

Dezorian's idea about console themed months is excellent. I like it!

I'm not for playing all Mario or all Zelda titles. I'm a Nintendo fan and do love both series, but the point of the playthroughs is to experience some "new" games as a community. I think playing an entire series would be rather dull and quite "fanboyish." Not saying that I mind playing a Zelda or Mario title in upcoming playthroughs (all for that), but saturating the playthroughs with these games defeats our intended purpose IMHO.

As far as Dezorian's idea, this is pretty much what we are doing. As we have discussed in back and forth PMs and during our playthrough meeting, we are very concious about choosing a different platform/developer each month and trying to spread it out. So far the Retro group has done Nintendo, Playstation, and now Sega, which are pretty much the big three, and we may throw in an Atari month or two in the future. The Modern group has also been concious of mixing it up in their selections with the Nintendo Wii, XBox 360, and now PS2. The Retro group is planning to head back to Nintendo next month with an N64 title and will continue to provide a solid rotation.

All in all, the playthroughs are about the community and if members like the idea of a poll each month to vote on a title from a small group of options (mainly from the suggestions in this thread), I am all on board for that.  I want everyone here to feel as if they have a voice in helping to determine the title(s) we will play, but I think we still need to mix up the consoles to help maximize participation each month. My thought is that the moderators should pick the system and then gather a list of games suggested on this thread or in PMs and then determine which of those are fit for a playthrough (i.e. price, lenth, availability, etc.). Once we have about 5 titles, we run a poll to see what the community wants to play. I think it can be as simple as that and everyone should be happy. I think that if we use suggestions from this thread to help form our poll, we can eliminate the "other" category.

Dezorian, we will be sure to put Phantasy Star in the poll for the SMS month. I think that having the option to play it on a more modern system as well makes it a nice fit. I think that most of us probably only experienced early NES RPGs such as Dragon Warrior or Final Fantasy. It's refreshing to think of playing a game that is noted as being a solid RPG and being able to compare it to its contemporaries.                                    

@ Fleach - I'm not opposed to playing those games, but I see what singlebanana is saying. Maybe it should be games that we all haven't played a million times.

@ singlebanana - I agree. Especially about the mods picking the system, then gathering a list of games from the thread or PMs.

I know part of the point is to get as many people as possible involved, but it's impossible to please everyone. I don't own an N64 and I probably won't be able to do the January play-through. Life's tough, but I think I'll survive  ;)

Yeah, we certainly understand and don't expect people to be able to play every month. Hopefully, you have a current gen console and could join the Modern playthrough next month. We're just doing our best to spread the love around. :)

I'm trying to track down a cheap PS2 (is that still modern?  ::)) and I do own a 360 which I will be playing Streets of Rage 2 on :)

Yeah the PS2 is considered "modern" by where we in the playthrough group kind of drew the line. So few people have the PS4 right now and it seemed reasonable that the Modern side would have 2 Sony consoles to showcase. I could see the PS2 falling back to the Retro playthrough a year or two down the road.

Good luck in finding a PS2, not scarce, but if you can get one for under $30, you're doing okay. Pawn shops are flooded with them. Grab a cheap copy of Crazy Taxi as well and join the current Modern playthrough.

i agree with everything singlebanana said

@fleach i love those games but agree with singlebanana, it would get a bit stale and push away anyone who isn't very big fans of them for a long time. with the amount of games in both series we could be looking at a year at least for each. i'm actually partway through doing that with zelda myself, and it's very slow going...partially because i tend to be slow when a game is long, but they're also just fairly long games.

I guess I'm alone in enjoying marathoning a game series. ;) Oh well.

Bring on the suggestions, guys. They're very helpful.

oh i'm all for going through a whole series, i'm just bad at doing it in a short period of time, i need games in between to make it more manageable ;)

i had gone through the entire call of duty series, and the main games for some other FPS series like Killzone and Resistance

Hell I'm marathoning 007 atm :)

Maybe this should be posted in the December Retro thread but whatevs.

I think the format for December is being conducted very nicely. I think it shows that playing a few shorter games, like the SoR trilogy, can work as well and be as entertaining as one longer game, like Super Mario RPG.

Using high scores really makes things interesting too. Beating SoR is fun, but for me, competing for a high score is where the real excitement lies. 

I guess my suggestion is - the next time we do a trilogy of games that keep score, we should use this same format. One game a week and the final week is a battle royale.

Thanks for the feedback Dezorian and I hope that everyone else is enjoying the formats of both playthroughs. I agree, high score competitions are challenging and fun, especially when you figure out that specific moves or strategies can earn you more points. As you know, before game "endings" people competed for high scores. While I think there is a lot of value in finishing a game, there's just something about being the one to own that high score that brings out the competitiveness in everyone and makes the game more fun! :)

Though this is game suggestion thread, your post is awesome, because it tells me that we really need a feedback thread so that you guys can let us know what you like and don't like. Traditionally, I will usually post a message on the specific game thread asking for feedback. However, I think this kind of gets lost in the mix and we would be better served having a central feedback thread. As stated before, we really value the feedback of this community and it can only help us make our playthroughs better. The playthrough moderators are actually meeting tonight, so I will be sure to bring this up.  Thank you.

Lol yeah, I wasn't sure it really belonged here. That's why I added my "suggestion" on the last line  ;D

Oh yeah, we're glad you posted here. It is a "suggestion" thread. :) I think having a specific feedback thread is a great idea though.

I'm sure many of you have played it several times but Super Metroid will be 20 years old this year, March/April/July for Japan/US/Europe.  Great opportunity to clear it again or play it for the first time, as the case may be.

Awesome suggestion and appropriate considering the anniversary. Super Metroid is known as a pretty difficult game so it would be interesting to see who would be up for the challenge. Thanks for the suggestion Slowman.

i'd be interested in giving super metroid a try because i really need to play the 2D metroids, i've beaten the Prime trilogy and that's it.

I'd be into it. Many, including me, consider it to be one of the greatest games of all-time. I've beaten it a few times but I've never gotten the best ending or found 100% of the items so there is still work to be done.

Banana skimmed through this thread and compiled all of the suggested games. Naturally, a big thank you is in order, but this also revealed that there weren't many modern (2000-Present) games proposed here.

Please keep those suggestions coming; they really help us pick games for the playthroughs.

The big reason is that many of the retro games came from the 2 polls that we did on the other threads. Still, some more modern suggestions would be great. :)

Modern suggestions, you say?  Here are some modern games that I've had my eye on lately, so maybe something here would be good for a community playthrough:

Bayonetta (X360 / PS3)
Beyond: Two Souls (PS3)
BioShock Infinite (X360 / PS3 / PC)
Dark Cloud (PS2)
Deus Ex: Human Revolution (X360 / PS3 / WiiU / PC)
Lost In Shadow (Wii)
Luigi's Mansion (GC)
Metroid Prime (GC)
Resident Evil: Revelations (X360 / PS3 / WiiU / PC)
Shenmue (DC)
Valkyria Chronicles (PS3)

Cool, added these to our ongoing list of suggestions. Thank you Disposed. :)

All very good suggestions, and many we've already discussed behind the scenes. Shenmue would be a fun one, wouldn't it? Achievement: Beat forklift landspeed record.

I was playing Valkyria Chronicles about a year ago. I absolutely adored everything about it. however there was an insurmountable difficulty spike somewhere along the line and I had to put it down. I wonder if this is a common experience and if a group playthrough would be a good remedy for it.

I have a suggestion about the threads themselves. I think we need to fine tune the way we use the spoiler tags.

- In the Parasite Eve thread, I've read some things that I didn't want to read. Nothing major, but I knew the game was going to end on a Navy vessel before I got there. I understand that the entire thread can't be spoiler tags, but maybe if we can be more vague in what we're talking about. Instead of saying something like "I died a few times trying to escape the ship at the end" maybe say "I died a few times in the final area."

- As for using spoiler tags, I don't think we can use them like this...

Today I

Spoiler (hover to show)

found the Red Candle and burned the bush to find level 8

The problem isn't so much of what's in the spoiler, the problem is what's before it. We need to vaguely indicate where we are in the game before the spoiler tag. This way, people will know if they should be reading the spoiler. Maybe something like....

I have 14 heart containers and I'm near the end of the game. Today I

Spoiler (hover to show)

found the Red Candle and burned the bush to find level 8

- Finally, I'm not calling anyone out in particular, but maybe it's not the best idea to post multiple pics of the end of the game 5 days into the playthrough. Even with spoiler tags, it's easy enough to accidentally hover over them. 

 

Yeah, I think that the spoiler tags are getting a little out of hand, and I too am guilty of using them too much. Probably the best way to rememdy this is to make sure all spoilers pertain to information or helpful suggestions regarding the current checkpoint. This way, people can go back and look over them after the week is up if they so choose.

I know people are excited about finishing the game or, like myself, proud of accomplishing certain feats outside of the current checkpoint, but an accidental hover could really spoil something in the game for someone else. If you want to talk about finishing something early with someone who has already played through the game or with one of the moderators, I suggest just sending a PM and saving the spoiler posts for the week of the playthrough they pertain to.

No worries if you posted anything about spoilers, I'm glad everyone is enjoying the game. Going forward, let's just try to be more concious. Thanks. :)

Good points there. I think we should save the spoiler tags for secret item locations, major plot points, and anything that isn't obvious to the player.

If anyone has played ahead I hope they can contain their excitement until that portion of the game is being played/discussed.

I like both of those ideas.

The spoilee should have some responsibility too. I was always behind in Parasite Eve, which was my fault, but I was scared away from most of the conversation in the thread. Using Banana's idea of only discussing up to the checkpoint, it would be my responsibility to only read posts dated before Feb. 7th if I haven't cleared the first checkpoint.

I don't think there is a perfect solution since spoilers can happen inbetween checkpoints. I can beat a checkpoint on the first day, but it would be wrong of me to start posting about things that happen near the end of the checkpoint. I just think we all (including me) have to be a little more careful.

@JerryGreenwood: You can call me out. I agree with the accidental hover and have removed the pictures in question.

As far as a Retro suggestion goes I suggest Super Mario Brothers. I know lots of people have played it but how many have beaten it?

SMB would make a good playthrough, but I think it is rather short for dedicating an entire month. Might I suggest a month of SMB, SMB2, and SMB3. What are thoughts on that?

@singlebanana: Sounds good to me.

Thanks. I was trying to think of a delicate way to say it.

As for SMB, now that I'm thinking about it, I've probably only beaten it once in my life, which sounds strange to say. I'd be all for SMB as well as 2 and 3. The question is, would SMB All-Stars be allowed? Those save files make the games a lot easier which would be a big difference.

I think that the more platforms we can have where more people can participate the better. Since it's not a competition, I see no reason why All-Stars shouldn't be allowed. With four weeks, we could posibly include Lost Worlds as a bonus. :) 

Achievements could include: turtle tapping, minus world, no warps, and other such nonsense. :P

I'd be all for the original SMB games.  I've actually never beaten the first two, and SMB 3 is one of my favorite (if not my top favorite) NES games.  Hell, I'd like to play through Super Mario World also since I've never beaten that one either.  :)

SMB World is a much longer game that could actually take up an entire month. I'd like to do that one sometime as well.

i like the SMB idea too, but not so sure about all-stars as if you've played both versions there's a noticeable different in the feel of the controls. personally i can't play the all-stars version because my timing on everything feels different than the original.

Don't know if it's been suggested for Modern yet but, either Dragon's Dogma or Dark Arisen? I own both but have never played. They might be too long though..

A two-monther is a possibility. We've done it before.

I'd be up for it.  I considered suggesting Dragon's Dogma in my earlier post but knew that the length would be an issue.

If you guys are up to something like Dragon's Dogma, how do you feel about Mass Effect? Or, if you really want to challenge yourselves, Dark Souls.

I'm up for pretty much anything.  Played and enjoyed ME 2 & 3, so I've been wanting to go back and play the first one at some point.  Dark Souls is also on my 'to play' list.

We just did PlayStation so I don't expect it anytime soon, but how about Alundra? I just got it and I've heard great things.

I've never played it and don't know the game. Just looked up the price and it's fairly affordable (around $30). I'll put it on the list we keep and we'll look into it. Thanks for the recommendation.

If you can find an Alundra for that price send one over to me. All the copies of that game around $40 or more on ebay.ca.

I stalked Alundra on eBay.com for months and finally got it CIB for $21. Most of them are $25-$40. I'll keep my eye out.

With the release of the HD  remaster of FF X getting lots of people excited, how do you all feel about playing through that on month? Maybe it be a two month playthrough because it's a long game.

Sounds good to me.  I was planning on playing it sometime soon anyway.

So nothing is planned for May so far?

We typically announce games about a week before the end of the month. Something should be posted soon.

may crept up on us so the front page post and topics will be a bit late but not too bad, they should be up tonight or tomorrow at latest!

we should have a Ready Player One retro month and pick only games they talked about in the book :) http://readyplayerone.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Video_Games

I like it!

me too, cool idea! i'm sure there are other books, movies, or tv shows with similar possibilities too

Black Tiger is great. I'm pretty sure I mentioned it in the last podcast.

Me and my wife are going to try it anyway, dungeons of daggerath was ported to pc for a free download and 5 bucks on gog got the zork games.

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If or when Suikoden II releases on PSN I would highly recommend it for a community playthrough.

I've been thinking the same thing. If it's out by June (my next time hosting) it'll be a slam dunk.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX1wp4UnCq4

suikoden is like phantasy star to me, one of those games that feels distant to me because i don't know anyone personally that has played them but i always hear good things when they're mentioned. i'm sure i would love to play it just like i did with phantasy star

I think the Suikoden II thing is more of a "when" type issue. It's already been rated by the ESRB so for now we wait. And yes, I would love to play that game!

If we did the first Suikoden would ya'll have any interest? That's been on PSN for a while and is much more affordable if you want a physical copy.

That's a good idea, if we decide to play Suikoden II later on everybody who played I would have a save game they could transfer over to II for some extra gear, levels on certain characters, and extra content.

I gotta be honest I could really go for a replay of that game. 

I wonder if "The Beast" would join us. What do you think Disposed?

Sounds good to me.  It's been ages since I played it and I wanted to revisit the first game before I played the second.

Cool! I'd say it's almost a done deal for June then. How can I resist playing through Suikoden with Sir-effing-Psycho and THE BEAST??

I'd been contemplating doing another playthrough for a review anyway.

I'm with you here techie. I have heard a lot about this game from others, but I don't know anything about the series. Funny, but there is a girl I work with that is around my age and she raves about Suikoden. She still has her copies and even told me that she use to host walkthroughs! You'd never know it if you met her. Ha!

If that's the case, I'll say this, with the game(s) I have in mind for June, you guys are going to have to put in a lot of work. I think you'll be really pleased with all of the June selections.

I love the suikoden series, I have all 6

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I've got a few suggestions for modern games that I'd like to play sometime with you gents.

Mirror's Edge (PS3,360,PC)
Metal Gear Rising Revengeance (PS3,360)
Deux Ex Human Revolution (360,PS3,Wii U, PC)

For Retro I'd love to see

Twisted Metal II (PS)
Panzer Dragoon (Sat)
Comix Zone (Gen)
Uniracers (SNES)

I'm totally down for replaying Suikoden!!

Mirror's Edge would be cool too. I've only played the demo.

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Consider yourselves signed up! I started playing this morning. LOVE this effing game.

So yeah, this is the unofficial official announcement. Get Suikoden. Official thread coming soon.

The first one?

Yes sir.

Hell yeah! Stoked to see how we're gonna play & discuss it. (Now to finish beating TLOU again before we start ^_^)

I don't have Suikoden.  Looks like I'm out for June.

It's on PSN for less than ten bucks.

Ditto. Im kinda engrossed in a few other games anyways. As is, I have only spent 10-20 minutes on DKC this month.

Damn you guys are missing out. This is a very special game. It's also pretty easy and nice and short. I hope you'll reconsider.

I actually have a couple of extra copies of this game, one CIB and one disc only, if anybody wants to work out a trade for it.

Don't have PSN :(

Just bought it on ebay.  Damn Disposed, if only I read this thread one more time before I clicked Buy it Now...

EDIT: In other words, I'm in.  I can't miss a month.

So Suikoden will be the Retro playthrough....Curious to see what the Modern playthrough will be.

Coming soon enough sir.

Modern I'd like to do something on Wii-U. Not sure if one's been done yet.

I'll PM you about that.


We did Wind Waker (both the original and Wii U remaster) not too long ago. But I agree, I'd love to fire up my Wii U to play something with you guys. :)

I'd be in for some Wii U time

WiiU for me too!

One of the Lego games maybe? I hear they are actually very well done, fun games.

the little i've tried of them, they all seem to be infinite fetch quests...but i could be wrong

Lego Batman was my favorite out of the Lego games. All of the Lego games have multiple characters to unlock and play as. I didn't enjoy them alone though. Co-op is the way to go for sure.

We were talking about Wii U. Lego City Undercover is a fun game for that system. Lego Marvel Super Heroes is pretty great too

Just thought I'd mention Illusion of Gaia for the SNES as a retro suggestion.  It's a personal favorite of mine.

That sounds like fun. I have never played that one, but my brother loved it as a kid and I do own it. Final Fantasy Mystic Quest would be fun too. But it is far more basic and I am not sure if any lively discussions are to be had on that one. ha ha

this is interesting... maybe some one could post it on the front page and we destroy the other sites :)   http://atariage.com/forums/topic/226434-internet-gaming-bash-of-the-year/#entry3010652

That looks like fun. I think out of all of us, we have most every generation covered.

thats what I thought too.  If the Atari playthough said anything was that we can do arcade :) and we pic the games

Thanks for all of the suggestions guys. Anytime we receive them, we put them onto a Google Doc to reference when we are trying to determine what games to play. Though we may sometimes go rogue and choose something off the list, I can assure you that your suggestions are always considered. List has been updated to present.


This seems like a decent concept, but I'm a little unsure about the rules and overall procedure. It says games are MAME only, so not sure where this puts us in terms of overall site interest. With the start of this being 7/1, it would be a bit of a time crunch to get this figured out. This could be something good to do next year if it comes around again.

I don't know how that challenge will work, but it seems like a competitive version of what we're doing here each month. It could be a fun thing to do if all the planning details were properly figured out.

Emulation has always been kind of a gray area on this site, but if there was enough interest for a run at it next year, I'd say bring it on.

I assumed that, should we do something similar to this, we'd be playing on original hardware. Or Retrons maybe.

Hmmm....an intra-community team battle on some games might be pretty fun. We shall discuss in private for an upcoming month.

I was a bigger fan of it's unofficial predecessor, Soul Blazer, but I think both are great.

We can add Soul Blazer to the suggestion list. It'd be fun to play an action RPG on the SNES.

I am surprised nobody brought up Chrono Trigger for a retro. I have never played it myself, and know it is available on at least three different consoles and possibly downloadable too.

I would be down for a SMB run as well, one every ten days is doable and I would be up for the challenge, since I have never beat any of them all the way through. (Warp whistles or not)

Dark Souls would be a good choice for Modern, I think. It was just available for free download on X360, so any of us with that console could join in, and it seems to be very difficult which would give some opportunity for the old fashioned discussions and help that wasn't available before the internet.

I thought about mentioning that one as well.  I've played it a little bit, but I preferred Illusion of Gaia.  I certainly wouldn't mind doing it for a playthrough though.


Chrono Trigger is my all time favorite game, so that one has definitely crossed my mind as well.  I neglected to mention it because of the length, but it's probably about the same length as Suikoden, so it could work.  It's been a while since I've played it, so I don't remember exactly how long it is.

Again, you guys are getting into the realm of the expensive with Chrono Trigger. It's a great game, but has gotten much pricier as of late.

I would have figured most of us already have at least one version of the game. But are all of the options that expensive? I know getting it on the SNES is going to be pricey no matter what, but the FF Chronicles package on the PS1 is cheap, I know it is available in both of my retro game stores nearby used for $20. I can't imagine the DS version being all that much more expensive if someone can find it; and if all else fails, It is also available on Google play, the Apple store, The Nintendo virtual console for the Wii, and Playstation network for PS3, Vita, and PSP for $10.

Good point. I really hadn't considered outside options, which I should have.

FF Chronicles can be had for pretty cheap, but the PS1 port of Chrono Trigger is generally regarded to be the worst version because of the long load times.  Copies of the DS version can usually be had for ~$30 on ebay.  And then of course there are all the digital options.

I own it. At first, I thought it was utterly unplayable. But after an hour or two, you don't even notice it anymore. I think the cut scenes MORE than make up for the load times. The opening movie with that great song (Crono's theme?) is amazing. I watched the whole thing almost every time I started up the game.

Coincidentally my Chrono Trigger for the DS just came in today.

If we did a playthrough, I would be using the PS1 FF chronicles bundle as well. I don't own it for the SNES, and I would rather use the big screen over the DS version I own, load times or not. :).

I'll play through Chrono Trigger for sure :D The load times I can live with but only for CT ha. A Mario Bros month would be kinda awesome too especially if we play SMW.

A game I'll throw out since it's really high on my backlog is Tomb Raider (PS3/PS4)

That would make it a week for each SMB game, that would be pretty sweet. SMW I have beaten before and would love to play again. It was the second game I ever conquered. The first being Mega Man 2.

Speaking of Mega Man...ha ha. No...nevermind...;)

Do you guys want to play Chrono Trigger? There seems to be plenty of interest in the game. Since there are so many options to play it would be a feasible game for a Community Playthrough.

I vote yes lol

I love revisiting old RPGs with people that haven't played/beat them and hearing why others enjoyed them in the past

Definitely in for Chrono Trigger.  Like I said, my favorite game of all time.


I'm pretty sure the DS version has the cut scenes, as well as some fairly lackluster extra content.  I only played the PS1 version for a little while several years ago, and I don't really recall the load times being that bad myself, I was just pointing out that that was the general opinion.

YES YES YES for Chrono Trigger!  Sooooo good.  I've been looking for a reason to play this again.

I'd love to do a Mega Man month too.  I hope there's more interest for the series in the coming months.

Always down for Mega Man as well. We've got a pretty good list of potentials right now.

I meant the Mega man thing as a joke...I haven't played them often, but I have the WORST time with Mega man games, It is probably just a lack of identifying the patterns, but overall, I stink at old school mega man. Mega man 9 has been nearly impossible for me to even start and I know a few stages of the original 6 NES Mega man games have caused some frustration in their day.

That being said...I would be up to the challenge if we decided to do a run and could participate thanks to the AWESOME Mega man anniversary collection for the 'Cube.

I've always had the same experience with the Mega Man games.  I suck at them.  I'm sure it's just a lack of practice though since I've never spent too much time with these games.

I'd still totally be up for a Mega Man month though.  What better way to get into the series than with a community playthrough?

How about Kaizo Mario for a playthrough?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0THUEXCwzSI

I tore through Crono Trigger this winter, but this will give me a chance to get every ending. I'm also into Mega Man month too.

How does anyone feel about something involving Sonic for retro?

I believe Sonic '06 would be a modern title, dispite its timeless appeal.

I was more thinking either a set 1, 2, 3 type of run, or maybe think outside the box and just do a grab-bag of all the retro titles and give our opinions as we go through some of them. I couldn't count all the sonic games out there on all 21 of my digits.

Yes, yes, and yes!

I was raised on Sonic games.

sonic adventure would be cool too but i'm down with probably any sonic as well haha

the classics never fail for a good time

Just putting the idea out there, but how would you feel about playing a Pokemon game using the Nuzlocke challenge rules?

In a nutshell the rules are: you must name every Pokemon you catch, you can only catch the first Pokemon you encounter in each area, and if a Pokemon faints it is considered dead (must be released). I also think it would be fun to let the first letter of someone's username dictate which starter they choose (eg. A-H: starter 1, I-P: starter 2, Q-Z: starter 3).

What do you think of this for a community playthrough?

potential for awesome, though the rules might need some clarifying. what happens if you go through all the areas and all your pokemon "die"? are you allowed to go back and catch a new one for each one that died, or is the game considered lost at that point?

That would be considered a game over. These rules are basically to make a hard mode for Pokemon.

You can find more info here: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Nuzlocke_Challenge

Im out. lol

cool, i'm sure that could be a lot of fun but potentially frustrating...i don't see many people picking it up again after they've lost, especially if they made a lot of progress.

Yeah, I haven't played a Pokemon game since Red/Blue and would love to play a newer game in the series, but I don't think I'm a fan of those rules.  Well, at least not the permadeath rule, I could live with the other constraints.

Shovel Knight.

Shovel Knight is a download-only title, isn't it?

Yes.

We can always take out the permadeath rule. Would you be interested then?


Awesome idea! I really, really want to play Shovel Knight.

Yeah, I'd be ok with that.

So in other words, it doesn't exist.

Shovel Knight looks like a great game and I'd love to play it some day. Only available on the WiiU right?

Wii U, 3DS, PC

It's pretty quiet in here. No suggestions for games?

I want to nominate either 999: 9 Hours, 9 Persons, 9 Doors or Virtue's Last Reward as a playthrough game. They are open ended interactive drama games so hopefully everyone participating will have a unique experience with the game which will promote some great discussion.

Well, we are pretty much booked solid through October, except for the Modern October title. ;)

They're DS and 3DS/Vita games so they would fall under Modern.

I can imagine you with a calendar with all your games listed in it. ;)

Oh could you now? Yes..........I am a bit of a planner, but remember, September has already been announced and if others have been paying attention, they probably already know what the Retro title is going to be. We've hinted at it several times over the last year.

I actually picked up a copy of 999 for my DS on a whim a few months back. I almost started it several times, but never did. It might have to accompany me to the beach.

If you're taking it to the beach you'll end up with tan lines like these.

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Anyway, just putting out a suggestion. I'm curious to hear from the community.

I've played 999 before but wouldn't mind doing a refresher playthrough before starting Virtue's Last Reward, even though I don't think the stories are really related.  Virtue's Last Reward for the Vita was a PS+ game about a year ago, so I'm sure a few of our members (including myself) already have it.

I don't think it's been mentioned yet, but I've been meaning to toss out A Link to the Past as a retro suggestion.

Fantastic game and a great selection! We did Wind Waker earlier this year, so perhaps we could look into another Zelda game for 2015.

We should make January our Zelda month! Start the year off with a bang! We could also follow up with A Link Between Worlds.

Sounds good to me!  EVERY month should be Zelda month!  :)

J/k... kinda.   A Link Between Worlds has gone unplayed by me for far too long, so I'd definitely be up for that one as well.

Sounds like a plan. Fleach, you're talking about my calendar and you're already proposing something for 2016? ;)

Maybe...
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Why not try a classic adventure game. What about Monkey Island, Full Throttle, Sam & Max, King's Quest, Space Quest etc?

if we are going with themes maybe a fun horror survival game for October. I  have been dying to play through Resident Evil on the Gamecube. Maybe some winter themed games for Nov, and December. Parasite Eve, Batman Returns, Gremlins 2 ( ok well the first movie was around Xmas and not the sequel)

Die Hard. ::)

yes thats a good one. We can start saving for a copy now ha

I'm such a huge survival horror fan that, for the last several years, I've spent the entirety of September and October (because one month wasn't enough) devoted to playing nothing but survival horror games.  I plan on doing it again this year (although Suikoden II in September will be an exception), and would love for the October playthroughs to be something fitting.

Pretty sure I know what Octobers Retro playthrough will be...

Not to worry, October playthroughs will be "fitting." Also, russlyman, we already played through Parasite Eve this past February.


I hear that Die Hard the Arcade Game on the Saturn is a pretty good game.

Its not the cheapest Saturn game.

Looks like around $45, so yeah, a little over the price we normally try to stay under. We are playing Suikoden II next month. ;)

Duke and a large fries to go mentioned wanting to play Otomedius Excellent. Anyone interested, or maybe better yet doing a month of shmups where we do like one or two a week? High score challenges?

September and October are set, so it would have to be after that. Maybe December, since shumps are pretty much one-sitters and everyone is busy at that time of year. Thoughts?

i like the sounds of doing this for december, we could do OE on the modern side and maybe a gradius playthrough on the retro side. just an idea :)

Maybe a few affordable shmups every week on the retro side. High score challenge and royal rumble similar to our Streets of Rage contest last December?

Nothing has been set for November either. Could do Shmup month then and another challenge in December.

Kind of fits better with December, since shumps are one sitters (people are really busy that month) and can easily be made into a high score contest. Besides, that will be our month Floyd. :)

I don't own any shmups beside Otomedius, and a few NES ones.

Christmas is coming. Genesis has a great library of them.

Love the idea of a multi-shmup December.

Deshmupber? Nah, that sounds dumb.

I'll accept early Christmas gifts as game nominations. ;)

Put Lightening Force on your list.

Lightning Force AKA Thunder Force IV. Never understood why they changed the name on that one.

I just never understood what got "Lightened."

Ok, I started on the 1st podcast and I'm up to the 3rd and I have to say I now know what I have been missing out on.  I'm excited to try some of these community playthroughs once we get to something I have and have time for.  Bring it on!

Happy to have you aboard.

I especially love the retro stuff.

To continue with the old DKC playthroughs, how about a DKC Tropical Freeze one?!

I would think a few more people need to get a copy first.

Maybe for a shmup playthrough, multiple game choices could be offered. Sort of like the Atari one that we just had a few months back. Do two a week, or give the choice between one of two per week, and high scores. By doing the choice of one of two, it would give gamers more options/possibilities of owning/playing at least ONE of the games every week.

Also, I sort of made a joke in another thread about an Earthbound playthrough. There was a big hype for a Suikoden playthrough (and subsequent Suikoden II playthrough) so why not Earthbound? Now I realize that Earthbound is NOT a cheap game (I just had to dish out a days pay for my copy) but it would appear that twice as many members on here own it, than those that own Suikoden II, AND it's downloadable on the WiiU! The only thing that might bar it I suppose, would be length.

Any suggestions for shoot 'em ups?

An Earthbound playthrough could be fun. The game is beatable in a month to six weeks so it's a decent candidate. I'd say the rest of RFGen should weigh in this suggestion.

The only issue I see with choosing between "one of two per week" is figuring out high scores per week, since each games scores and plays differently. The format would probably go something like this:

Week 1 - shmup #1
Week 2 - shmup #2
Week 3 - shmup #3
Week 4 - shmup #4 + royal rumble


I don't necessarily want to limit it to one console, but if I do, it will be the Genesis. It's been a while since we have played games on this system and there are some incredible shmups on it. I'd certainly be up for suggestions and would even consider putting those suggestions up for vote in November so participants can determine what we play. Again, suggestions need to be on the affordable side (I'd say under $10-$15 ) because some participants may have to purchase 4 games.

forgot beyond oasis already? :laugh:

Beyond O-What-sis???

Rather not have it limited to one console either. In fact, I think it would be kinda cool to do a different console every week. So say week one could be eg: NES Gradius, week 2: TG16- Hyperdyne, week3: Genesis- Truxton, week4: SNES- Darius Twin

NES, Genesis, and SNES sure. I don't think we have enough members who own a TG16 to make that a viable platform for a competition. I think that would probably rule a lot of people out from competing.

I'd like to play Truxton, but the price of that game has really been climbing as of late

Yeah, I don't even own Truxton. Was just throwing it out there as an example. Going over my collection, these are shmups I own, that I like, and would suggest: (SMS) Astro Warrior, (NES, FC) Gradius, (TG16) Dragon Spirit, (SMS) R-type, (GEN) Thunder Force II.

I would like to hear others suggestions as well, and think a poll in November would be a good idea. Give a guy a chance to try and snap up games to be all in.

Good suggestions. I'd say we might need to stick to the Genesis, NES, and SNES, since those are systems that most of our members have.  Dragon Spirit is also on the NES and a great little shooter on there as well. I'd also suggest that we maybe mix it up in terms of not having all space shooters. Games like Phelios, Elemental Master, and Wings of Wor are fantastic shooters that are not in the traditional space shooter style.

Saturn and PS1 have excellent shooter libraries as well.

Good point. Again, not sure many of our members own Saturns, but PS1 could work if titles were affordable. Could be kind of fun to do a game from NES, Genesis, SNES, and PS1 for each week.

What's the going rate for Sunset Riders? That would be a fun shooter to throw into the mix.

Whew! $50+ on SNES and $35+ Genesis. And that's loose.

Do a Konami and Compile shooter month, and let folks mix and match. That covers a huge range of consoles, and a wide range of prices.

Holy cow! The price shop shot way up!

Oh well, at least we have Gunman Clive. Only $2 on Steam. ;) It's basically the same game, just not 16-bit.

the only problem with just picking a developer/publisher and say "play shooters from them" is that it kind of takes away from the community aspect. if everyone is playing the same games then we're more likely to get some good discussion, otherwise it would just be everyone trying to sell (or hate on) their game to others.

i do like the idea of doing multiple in the month of course, just keeping some sense of structure would be better.

Again, you can't run a high score competition by mixing and matching shooters. One game per week will be the format.

Cheap and easy (to find), then:

NES - Zanac
SMS - Astro Warrior
360 - Otomedius Excellent
SNES - Gradius III

Also, if no one has mentioned it yet for the future: Metal Gear (NES) and Metal Gear Solid (PS/GCN)

Gradius games have been ported several times as well, I can name at least five different systems they have been ported to. Those would likely get a ton of people involved.

I am pretty sure MSG has been mentioned, and would be even more fun given the Suikoden saves on most of our memory cards. ;)

I think it's been mentioned before. What do you mean about the Suikoden saves?

Psycho Mantis: So you like to play Suikoden?

I'm totally psycho for mantises right now.

For me, Mantis always says: You like Castlevania don't you?

If you have saves from other Konami titles on your memory card during your battle with one of the bosses in MSG, the boss will "Read your mind", telling you what you have played before. He also takes over your controller and makes it "move" by his will alone. (It vibrates). It does the same thing on the GCN remake too. :) Except it isn't limited to Konami games on the 'Cube. Anything on your memory card is fair game for Psycho mantis and his "Mind Reading". ha ha

Wow. That's really cool!

Yep, I distinctly remember this when playing MGS when it came out. Such a "solid" game.

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Was thinking lately. It would be kind of cool to do Phantasy Star II in March, for the retro playthrough, one year after we did the first one.

That is a cool idea.

Eh......... 27 hours, a bit too long for a month. We could probably make it happen by breaking it into a two month event. I think we learned our lesson over the last few months with doing long RPGs and the relation to how many people actually participate.

http://www.howlongtobeat.com/game.php?id=6999

Just an idea. Also an excuse for me to get a copy and play it. Don't think I have ever played the second Phantasy Star.

i like the idea too but we'll see, like Rich said long games tend to be a problem for some people, but the first Phantasy Star was pretty popular this year so it might be worth considering. expect 2015 to (hopefully) have mostly shorter games.

We'll be playing Proteus every month!

And Donkey Kong on the NES

this is mostly a behind the scenes thing but i just thought i would let the public know. i decided to start making up some statistics about the playthroughs revolving around how many people signed up for each one, how many of those actually played the games, and how many finished. i'm hoping this might help us a bit in finding a trend for what games people are more likely to stick with us to the end.

anyway the reason i'm telling everyone this is that i can only mark someone down as having finished a playthrough if they mention it in the discussion thread. so i wanted to try nudging those who finish but might forget to post about it to really try to at least say "finished! great game!" so we can get more accurate numbers. i'm sure most of those who finish do say something, but i've noticed a few playthroughs where people were actively playing and then discussion died out when the next playthrough came up, so it wasn't clear if anyone finished or not.

I just modified the initial post to include the ongoing Google Doc list that we had for suggested games. Not sure if it is fully updated for this thread, but I will check against it and add games as necessary.

Dark Souls or Demon Souls

is it really as difficult as people make it out to be? me and Rich had heard that Super Metroid was going to be really difficult, and in the end it wasn't that bad.

Let's be real about this Chris, you've played these games before, would you play them again for a community playthrough or are you just making a drive-by suggestion?

I haven't been here very long, so I'm not sure of what's already been played or what is very acceptable to being played, but may I suggest any Pokemon games?  :)

I've proposed a pokemon Nuzlocke challenge a few months ago.  Reception was lukewarm.

I haven't played Demon's Souls.

I would be all for The Wolf Among Us, now that it has a physical release.

Fair enough, and I beg your pardon for assuming that you had. So would you participate if we did it?

Yes, I'd probably do some new game + on Dark Souls as well. Lead time is the big thing for me. For long games I need to block the time out a while in advance.

@EngineerMike: The Wolf Among Us was great. I hope they do a season 2.

I've played that game already but I'm not opposed to revisiting it after enough time has passed. The series only ended in the summer so things are still fairly fresh in my mind. Maybe if we played through the whole series in sprint returning players will have spent enough time away from the game.

What about a competition month with a racing game? F-Zero, Super Mario Kart, R.C. Pro-Am, etc.

I think the Racing genre lends itself to being one of the least replayable, but perhaps a friendly competition in one could rekindle an interest.

I think this is a fantastic idea! We'd have to figure out some way to make it a competition. Possibly just selecting certain tracks from each game and posting finish times. My only concern with some of the Super Mario Kart games are the short cuts. I'd suggest we pick games that do not feature "cheats" (not really cheats, no better word I can think of ATM) like these.

Good luck with that... Almost all racing games have some sort of factor that will contribute to different times, e.g. different routes (shortcuts), different characters/cars, etc.
You would likely need to standardize the timing in some way, e.g. Toad on Toad's Highway, 150cc, No Shortcuts

Other than different cars, I think games like F-Zero (SNES) are pretty standard. Some may complain, but we could just leave Mario Kart out of the mix. If we included it, I think that standardizing the timing like Shadow suggested would be fine.

I think F-Zero is pretty straight forward without any real short cuts. Most people here probably own it already, if not, it's only a few dollars. The 4 different cars could be fun. Also, you can select whichever track you want to play.

I don't know too many other games besides the ones I mentioned above. I think Rad Racer would be too primitive, Road Rash is too much of an RPG and beat'em up.

Uniracers?? I remember I really liked that game as a kid, but I can't remember if it would be good in a competition.

I think that maybe we should revisit a few of these games in the next month or so and see what we can do about figuring out which ones would work well.

You could include Ridge Racer with a certain car choice. Daytona USA with a particular setup would also work. Cruis'n USA and World could also be considered.

i don't see the problem with short cuts, they're available to everyone so does it really matter? if it were 2 players sitting on the couch and one used a shortcut but the other didn't, their laps would be different lengths but it wouldn't be seen as "cheating" by anyone i know.

why not just use time trials? almost all racing games have those, and it's probably the easiest way to make a competition.

It's an issue because everyone is not privy to them and it's a competition. People shouldn't have to go to YouTube to try and figure out how to beat someone who uses short cuts. Plus, it's just lame.

but they're built into the track itself...it's not like a cheat code or something. if there was a special boost that only certain people could pull off with an elaborate button combination, then i might agree, but this is just about choosing a different path down the track. they're part of the game and meant to be used :P

Meant to be used or not, it cheapens the experience when competing for times and creating a level playing field for all, especially first time players. Is it really too much to ask to get people to stay on the full track? Host it and do want you want, but tracks like that will not be included if I host.

Damn girls, the claws are coming out!

I'm with Jaime on this one. Saying you can't use any path to victory is like saying you can't use powerups when we do shmup month.

Apples and oranges....

So pretty much you have to rule out any tracks that have multiple paths right?

No, not necessarily. Some of the tracks for example on the Mario Kart 64 version have multiple paths shown on the track map, but other tracks have hidden/secret areas that you can exploit to cut through and get a major advantage. I see no problem in just picking tracks that don't allow this advantage. Hell, there are tons of tracks to choose from. Seems like you guys are whining about something that's a simple solution to evening out play for newcomers to these games. I'm just trying to offer up an idea to keep it competitive for the month and not frustrate newer players who might give up on playing if they see an outrageous looking finish time.

I have to admit I'm just stirring the pot, but when have we ever worried about newcomers? People finished SOTN within a few days of the playthrough starting. You guys beat Metroid on the first day. The people playing these games are old pros and shmup December will prove that out, watch.

Seeing as we have no way to monitor races and are going with the honour system, I'm with Rich. If we do a racing month it would have to include games without short cuts. Retro games like the Cruisin' series, Super Mario Kart, F-Zero. Or Gran Turismo, Forza, and the like on the modern side.

Again, apples and oranges. The examples of games you are giving are games where one just needs to finish them. We are talking about a competition month where participants will be competing for the fastest time. In terms of December, participants will play on the same normal settings and not be allowed to use any codes. That's as even as you can make it and if people who play shmups more win, then so be it, but it will not be because the "field" was not level, it will be a result of skill. Cut-throughs do NOT involve skill. They involve knowledge that others may not have.

i'll agree to disagree, but the only thing i want to point out is that Gradius (NES) has at least one bonus room (more than 1 if it's anything like Gradius III) that will give you a huge points bonus. that's an alternate route that only takes knowledge to access, or luck, just like a shortcut in mario kart.

Had no idea, but good to know. I'll point it out to everyone, or ask that participants are honest and not access it.

I'm a little undecided on this matter. I think you have to separate short cuts and glitches.

I'd be fine if we allow something like the little shortcut in the Ghost House in Super Mario Kart. The shortcut is clear on the map and is obvious to the driver while racing. It's more of a risk/reward thing.

However...

I'm not in favor of "glitches" like in Mario Kart 64, where some of the short cuts are more like a glitch - like when you have to carefully position yourself at a certain angle or purposely have to fall off the track or other non-racing acts.

If you have stop your car or go in reverse or do something ridiculous in order to perform a short cut, then no.
If it's clear on the map or if there is a shorter, tighter, more difficult path that is obvious, then I say yes.

I think it REALLY depends on which game is choosen.

i agree completely, the whole time i was under the assumption that we were talking about clear, alternate routes on the track.

this is an example from the Mario Kart 64 track Koopa Troopa Beach. there is a clear jump that leads into a clear path that's slightly difficult (you can miss the jump) but it's a simple alternate route, not a glitch. This should be allowed in my opinion, because it's essentially just choosing between left and right, there isn't much "knowledge" required for it.

http://cdn.wikimg.net/strategywiki/images/thumb/7/7d/MK64_Koopa_Troopa_Beach_mushroom_shortcut.jpg/200px-MK64_Koopa_Troopa_Beach_mushroom_shortcut.jpg

an example of a glitch would be on Mario Kart 64 Rainbow Road, where you jump left off the first steep downhill and if you aim it right you can land on a later part of the course roughly 1/3 of the way through the race. this would be cheating in my opinion because it's not an alternate route, but exploiting a flaw in the game design.

Rich if you were arguing against the first example then i strongly disagree, but if you were arguing against the second (glitch) example then i would agree with you completely.

Been awhile since I said it: Ys

Which one(s)?

Mostly just the first one, cause its on like 4 or 5 platforms.

Any interest in Final Fantasy Adventure? It's the first game in the Mana series and plays a lot like the original Zelda mixed in with Final Fantasy mechanics (health, exp, stats, etc). It trends around $15 to $20 loose and can be finished in 8 hours.

I actually just watched CGR Undertow's review of that game last night and it does look very good. Is that on the virtual console? I would buy it and play it on 3DS. (EDIT: It is not on VC at this time.) Having said that I wouldn't mind a copy of the cart for my collection either.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0_2HXkm3pY

I have a few FF games on Game Boy but I believe they are in the Legends series.

This looks great! With my Retron5 soon to arrive, it will be fun to play a great looking version on the ole telly. Technically a Retro title. ;)

Yeah, it's not available for Nintendo 3DS Virtual Console in any region right now. In fact, I don't think any of the Game Boy Final Fantasy titles are.
The Legend titles are the first titles in the SaGa franchise, while Adventure is the first title in the Mana series. I personally loved Legend after learning how the matrix worked for monster meat.

RPG Summer Slam, my friend. Or Grind-a-thon if you think that's a better name.

Cool, I still have my old copy of Final Fantasy Adventure from back in the day.  Never finished it though.

Ugh, I'd prefer to space the RPGs out this upcoming year. This summer got a little tedious, if you recall. Wouldn't mind doing a longer one over a few months though.

Agreed. That's easier to handle for everyone. I just nabbed a copy of FF Adventure on ebay so I'm all set for this one.

Definitely a game I'm going to be on the lookout for.

I had a $10 coupon thing in my Paypal so I had no hesitations for this game.

When you say "the first one" are you talking about this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ys_I_%26_II

Just making sure so I add the right game to the suggestions list.

Well that version can be included. I was mainly refering to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ys_I:_Ancient_Ys_Vanished

This is complicated because the game you're talking about has so many different versions.It was on Master System, then was also put on a compilation (Ys I & II) which got remade and "enhanced" several times.

If I'm thinking of the right game I have it on Steam. But that version is the remake of the Turbo Grafx game.

EDIT

All the iterations of the game are beatable in 5-7 hours. I'll include this one because it's available on so many platforms and discussing differences between releases will be interesting.

I'm just browsing the Steam Sale. Half Life 2 is at a great price right now. Is anyone interested in playing that at some point?

I just purchased it on XBox recently. The Cartridge Bros. actually played it this month as their playthrough.

I wouldn't think it would be too challenging to play it on different platforms, as the story, enemies and overall map layouts should still be the same? Just a difference in visuals. I suggested the first Ys game, because it was on the master system, but has also been ported and remade a bunch of times on other systems. Ideally, I would like to do Ys I and II together, but I think that would limit it for too many.

Ys 1 and 2 can be beaten in about 15 so it's not totally impossible. I'm going to research the differences between all the versions.

Lots of recommendations for The Wolf Among Us in many of the Best Of 2014 lists. I wouldn't mind adding this to our ongoing list and get others opinions on playing it.

That's a host's dream right there. Pretty much breezy, no fail gameplay and opens up a good discussion of everyone's choices and outcomes.

I just picked up a copy of this not long ago and would definitely like to play it soon.

I'll play it again. My initial playthrough had a Clint Eastwood style Wolf. If we play it on RF I'll go for different outcomes.

My wife is currently playing the game with me. This means that I am working the controls while she makes the heavy majority of the decisions. What can I say? Sometimes she's a little slow. :)  But basically, my Bigby is a big softy....until I crack a statue across yo damn face!

How does it feel to have a modern console, you crazy old coot?

Well doggies! It doesn't quite match the experience I had when I graphically went from the 2600 to the NES (and probably nothing ever will), but it's pretty close. The characters are definitely more life-like and the modern systems are much more capable of aggrandizing storytelling as a whole. With "Wolf," it's like watching an episode of a TV show, and I think this works well in keeping both my wife and I interested. Even DuckTales: Remastered was an entirely different experience storywise and I was super impressed with how they held on to all the important elements of the original and integrated a tight story where there was once relatively randoms stages and boss battles.

With that said, I am enjoying my experience thoroughly, but there is still something about the lack of story in more retro titles that very much still appeals to me. I guess I'm a pretty imaginative individual and growing up playing old games and basically as an only child with no neighbors for 13 years kind of fueled this characteristic in me. My challenge will be finding stories like Wolf, and as I've heard Hard Rain, that keep me creative and don't spell everything out for me. I just don't to ever feel that I am just watching a movie game.

So far so good! Well butter my biscuits!   

I also started Wolf Among Us last week. Didn't make it far, but I love the "choose-your-own-adventure" style of games, that Telltale makes. Wish they would do more games like Walking Dead and WAU, that are based off adult-reader graphic novels. Two titles that I would love Telltale to adapt, is: Lucifer and Preacher.

you should definitely give Super Stardust HD a try if you just want to blow stuff up arcade style, no storyline included.

I've been told that, aside from the TG-CD version, which some consider definitive, the Steam/PC version and the nearly identical PSP version (which I have) are likely the definitive versions in a more modern setting.  I'd be good for a go on those, since I bought the UMD over a year ago and haven't touched them :P

I have played the PSP versions. They are awesome.

so this is a kinda silly request.  when a play through is announced, can you make the name of the game link to the database :) then its easier to click and see if we already have the game or not :)

That's a good idea! We'll discuss it behind the scenes and see the best way to implement it. Thanks Doug.

Great idea! It's not difficult to pull off. We're all pretty comfortable with the BB Code used here so I'm we can provide links to the database.

Just got a copy of Persona 3. Is this a game that could be played within a month? If so,  MCP would be a good excuse for me to play it.

Though it's one of my favorite games of all time, and I've been dying to play it again, it took me 120 hours to complete. Too long for a playthrough I'm afraid. Don't wait to play it, Mike. Clear your schedule and dive in!

I know Persona games are long, but that's incredibly long! Were you going for a 100% run?

No, I just took my sweet time with it.

Uh yeah, Shawn's not exaggerating: http://www.howlongtobeat.com

http://www.howlongtobeat.com/game.php?id=8441

81 hours? that is quite the time investment. Way too long for a month.

If you had enough people sign up in advance for it, you could hold a 2-month playthrough... You just need to make sure there's enough involvement to do something like that though.

I think that's still too long for a 2 month playthrough. Even at 81 hours, that's 10 hours per week. I just don't see that many people putting in that sort of time commitment to delegate 2 months of our playthrough to it. 

We learned our lesson last year with the Suikoden II playthrough (32.5 - 50 complete). That was way too much to bite off in one month and it hurt our month. Any RPGs played in the future will have to be around 20 hours, or if played in 2 months, no more than 50 hours. It's just too much to ask of our hosts and participants.

I was just thinking about how SMRPG was 2 months, and I felt it should've been 1 month...and yet, 2 months seemed to work out well. I think the 20 hours limit is probably a good idea. I was more trying to get the point across that we've done multi-month playthroughs in the past, so don't let time limit if there's large interest. 80 hours is definitely a time sink for most, even across 2 months. Not sure what I was thinking there, as I don't have that much time after work even if I played every night.

We've thought about this quite a bit internally and Rich identified the issues very nicely. At the end of the day, though, I think it'll be the demand from the community that influences the decision. If people are willing to commit 2 months and 50+ hours that's great, but it's lot more involving than playing a long game for yourself for fun.

I just don't think that people will be able to commit at least two hours each and every day. And let's not forget that sometimes you don't get very far at all in an RPG in two hours.

i think an occasional 30 - 35 hour game wasn't too bad last year, Phantasy Star and Chrono Trigger were both that length and it went pretty well for most people, participation was fairly high. i definitely can't see anyone playing a 40+ hour game in one month, and 2 month playthroughs are always hit and miss because some people will finish really early, and over that long a time people tend to get bored and drop out.

20 hours is really reasonable for 1 month, and that covers a lot of great games. anything above that might be better if it's limited to 1 or 2 playthroughs a year.

We had some people finishing late on Chrono Trigger, which isn't all that bad, but ideally you want people finishing around the same time. Wouldn't you guys so?

I think it's a definite maybe depending on the community's commitment.

Yeah, it depends a lot on the games played and the time it takes. If the title is pretty well-loved and the community really wants to play it (and the other hosts are up for it :P ), then I could see a 30-35 hour game. However, we had a few people struggle with finishing Phantasy Star and I think a few never finished Chrono Trigger. If anything gets into the 40+ range, we'd have to break it off into 2 months for sure.

we could handle Persona 1 or 2, but I don't see a 3 or 4

Once again, I'm looking at howlongtobeat.com and the issue is that these games are too long (both average over 40 hours). I know that original copies of 1 & 2 are also on the expensive side, but I am taking into consideration that these are more affordable on the PSP, so at least that aspect of it would be suitable. Not my call, since these are modern games, but I want people to be aware of what factors we look at before choosing our games each month. Just because some of you might have 40+ hours to dedicate to a month, doesn't mean everyone does and we would like to keep participation high. Price and length hurt participation in a few of our RPG playthroughs last year and we do not want a repeat of that. Please take these things into consideration when making your suggestions. Thanks

Don't worry, we're not going to do it. Go play these games on your own, people. They are some of the best RPGs of all time and I would not recommend anyone play them on anyone else's schedule. They're too open ended for a community playthrough.

We did Suikoden II too early.

That, and it should have been two months. Having said that I maintain that a Persona game wouldn't work. They're open-ended in a completely different way.

I have a ton of original PlayStation games I've hardly touched, some I just got, some I've had for years and just have never put any real time into.  Same with some of my Saturn games.  I'd love to do something like Spyro 2 or 3 - I've had those for years and just never finished them.  I also never finished Metal Gear Solid.  Not entirely sure how far into it I got, but it was one where I was having fun with it, then hit a wall, got distracted by another game, and it fell by the wayside.  This might be too obscure for some, but I never finished Silhouette Mirage, either.

I was going by the Main story around 30 hours, but I understand time being a factor.

@MetalFRO Metal Gear Solid has been thrown around as a suggestion many times. I can almost guarantee we will do it eventually, hopefully during a month when I can guest host on the retro side ;).

That might be true, but that's what the community wanted after the Suikoden playthrough. The people who spoke up wanted to keep the story fresh and if you recall, they wanted to play it immediately (though we waited a few months in hopes of a DLC release). It's fine and was a lesson learned by our staff.

Though everyone may not be happy that we don't choose a particular game or series, our choices reflect games that we can all enjoy and talk about within the confines of a month. We take a good deal of time kicking titles back and forth for these playthroughs and ultimately make our choices in terms of what we want to play (because we don't have the choice of sitting one out) and what will likely garner the most participation.

I agree with GrayGhost. There is way too much open-ended gameplay associated with the Persona series. Sure, those who know what they are doing can finish it in around 40 hours, but first timers are going to go far beyond that mark. We want our playthroughs to be fun and not arduous time-sinks that people stress out about finishing. We encourage all of you to play the Persona series because it has a fantastic reputation, but it's highly unlikely you will see a playthrough of any of these games because they do not fit well into our format.  

Again, that's a finish time for people who are very familiar with the game, if you click on the game in howlongtobeat and look at that actual average (not the median) you'll get a more accurate picture of the time-sink. With that number, you still have to factor in several hours for first timers.

Great game! I concur and think you'll see this title in the future.

We're all pretty excited to play Metal Gear Solid at some point. It'll surely happen one month.

Another game I'd love to do again would be Syphon Filter.  It doesn't get the same praise that MGS got back in the day, but I think it holds up and is still fun to play.  I've beat it a half dozen times or so, but would love another go :)

Worth it just to tazer some fools...for just a little too long...

Interesting. That's one of those games I see all the time, but have never played. I'll check out a video and add it to the ongoing list.

This may have already taken place prior to my involvement on the website, but I wouldn't mind seeing a beat 'em up month.

Hyperstone Heist/TMNT IV
Streets of Rage and its sequels
Final Fight

Umm. There are plenty others to choose from as well

We did a Streets of Rage month last year. I think there is another beat 'em up coming soon, but I don't want to blow up someone else's spot.

Well, that shows what I know! Thanks for the input GrayGhost

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Disposed Hero's title is 2013 RFGeneration KING OF RAGE. ;)

Double Dragon series

Ditto. It could've been great like the SoR competition but I don't think Double Dragon 3 keeps score. I would say the Ninja Gaiden series could offer something similar to the SoR competition, as long as people aren't cheesy and killing respawning enemies. The only difference is, I don't think many people would be able to finish any of the Ninja Gaiden games (including me).

@SirPsycho - Who are you Benedict Arnold? Teenage Mutant "Hero" Turtles?

We could start a "Let's Play This And See How Bad At Video Games We Are" series.

I love Super Double Dragon on the SNES.  One of my favorite games of all time, and my #1 favorite beat 'em up.  I would love to do a grab bag of classic beat 'em ups one month similar to the schmup playthrough, although it wouldn't necessarily have to be a competition.

Ninja Gaiden is a great idea!  I love the NES series.

Lol. I think of myself as a pretty good gamer, but I might be the worst Battletoads player in the world. I'll probably be the only one who would be into this, but what about the Simpsons games on NES? (I can hear the crickets chirping already)

RE: beat'em ups - I like them all. I'm particularly fond of the Final Fight series, but I'm a bit of a Capcom fanboy.

I like this idea. Play the games, but throw out the competition element. A grab bag would be pretty fun, but it would be tough to keep it cost effective. As you know, beat 'em ups are a pretty popular genre and their prices can get get up there. 

Our next quarterly game announcement for July - September's games will come in May. As I alluded to before, expect a certain, affordable and classic, beat 'em up series to be announced at that time. Sorry, not Turtles in Time.....

Now THAT is a playthrough challenge that I could win.

That one Square game that came out alongside the PS2's release...  The name fails me...

The Bouncer

Well now I'm gunna start guessing!

We already did Streets of Rage.
Final Fight is out because those are expensive.
Golden Axe would be great, but I think the 3rd game is expensive and rare.
Ninja Gaiden isn't a beat-em up.

I know it! Bad Dudes.

Yes, that one.  I heard it sucked.

Any of those games were be great!  Bad dudes and Ninja Gaiden are my votes, though.  Too bad I have crap in 4 places and don't know what is where. :(  Wait to do Ninja Gaiden until I have all my stuff in 1 location so I can play. lol

I hate to keep suggesting games because then the whole thing gets diluted, but I think I got a good one. It's portable, so it would be easier for the busier people to play.

Pokemon Red or Blue.

I've actually never played any Pokemon game besides for Blue for a few minutes as a kid so I'm very interested to see the foundation of one of the biggest crazes in video game (and recent pop culture) history.

I once posted about playing a Pokemon game using the Nuzlocke Challenge rules (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Nuzlocke_Challenge). People didn't seem too interested. Either way, I'm willing to play a Pokemon game casually or with an imposed rule set.

I'd definitely be up for a Pokemon game, but I can't see myself adhering to any self-imposed rule set.  Reading through the Nuzlocke rules, it sounds like it would only serve to make the game less fun in my opinion.

Perhaps make the Nuzlocke Challenge optional?

Are there any Pokemon games that would fit our usual time/budget guidelines for the community? I've never played a Pokemon game and have been wanting to for a while, but I have the impression that they're all costly and lengthy to play. Is that accurate?

You can complete the main storyline of Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow in 8 hours of casual play, as long as you're not focusing on doing everything. I think I remember spending 50-60 hours in my first playthrough as a kid to catch and evolve everything, battle every trainer, collect every item and max out the money.

Pokemon can't be as long as Chrono Trigger or Super Mario RPG, which were both played already. Plus, it's portable. Take it to your kids dance recital. Play it while "working." Duct tape a gameboy under the lid of your toilet bowl tank.

As for price, looks like $20-$30 loose on eBay.

most pokemon games loose are quite affordable, definitely more so than some games we played in the past (SMRPG and Suikoden II come to mind). like jerry said, usually around $20 - $30 for most of them.

as for length, I can't say for the first gen but some of them can be quite long, it all depends on how you play it. I really can't see anyone who's never played the game before going through it in 8 hours though, that sounds very optimistic. bet on 15 - 20 to be safe.

I did say the main storyline - no guarantees if you branch off.

It's pretty quick if you just blast through. I've never actually timed myself on any of my runs through Blue/Gold, but 10-15 hours is a fair estimate as long as you aren't trying to catch 'em all.

Little Nemo the Dreammaster is a great one that we should do.

Nice pick! That's a fun game.

Fun, but difficult at the same time. The final bosses really ramp up the difficulty.

I beat it as a kid and wouldn't mind a revisit at some point. A bit of a hidden gem for those who don't collect for the NES.

In re: Pokemon - Shawn, if you are willing to switch sides with me for a month, you can run a retro Pokemon playthrough. I know it's popular with members, so that would be a good choice for playthrough one month. The Pokemon (pronounced "Poke-E-Man" by my local flea market vendors) craze hit when I was in college and it was a little past my time. I don't collect it and I'm not interested in purchasing a cart for a playthrough. However, I fully support a playthrough and would make accomidations to help see on played. :D

As of now I don't own physical copies of any of the GB/GBC/GBA Pokemon titles, but when I have time I'm going to fool around with some emulation on my DS (because I want to play Shining Force mainly), so I may be able to do that. It's up to the rest of the crew too, but I can certainly go with the flow, as I have mentioned before Pokemon is a series I've been wanting to at least try for quite some time now.

Golden Axe 3 was not released in the states, right?!

It was not.

I wouldn't say it wasn't released in the states. It's available on PS2 and PSP in Sega Genesis Collection, Xbox 360 and PS3 in Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection, and the Nintendo Wii Virtual Console. The original format's not available in the states.

True

Whoops! I had no idea. I've played it on the Sonic's Collection and it was a popular franchise so I just figured it was. No wonder why I couldn't find it on eBay.

South Park: Stick of Truth

It was only available on the Sega Channel, so there was never a physical Golden Axe III cart released in North America.

It was a bit hard at times but I did beat it.  Great game and at the time it was something that wasn't done before.  A definite hidden gem.

One of my biggest gaming regrets as a kid. I had a choice between that and WWF Wrestlemania. I choose Wrestlemania  :(

I still haven't played Little Nemo to this day, but I'd like to.

Just a heads up, we are currently voting on our August playthrough between Star Tropics and Little Nemo. I know there was mention of these games on here, so if you have not voted, please do so. The poll will be up for 2 weeks. http://www.rfgeneration.com/forum/index.php?topic=15640.new#new

I recently got hooked on these games, so I figured I'd nominate them.

Rolling Thunder (NES), Rolling Thunder 2 (Genesis/Mega Drive), Rolling Thunder 3 (Genesis).

I stuck with the home ports, despite the fact the arcade versions have been ported to the home  in the past.  The real challenge with these games will be playing them for a month without damaging consoles or controllers out of frustration.

I have such a soft spot for these games and fondly remember playing the original in the arcade. So brutal, but so well done.  Could be a fun month, but one I wouldn't expect anyone to finish.

I wouldn't expect anyone to finish, either, though Namco expects you to beat Rolling Thunder TWICE, a la Ghosts & Goblins.

I envisioned a Rolling Thunder playthrough month as a score attack.  Everyone jockeys for the best score in one or all of the games.  It'll keep people trying to get just a little further as the game really cranks up the difficulty.

Pretty sure it's been suggested before:  Bionic Commando

The NES game I assume?  Geez, talk about your controller thrower.

I would nominate the Game Boy Bionic Commando.  It's one of my favorites.

Id like to suggest shenmue 1 and 2 for a retro playthrough sometime always games ive wanted to beat and from what i remember they were great games not to sure about a modern playthough ill have to do some pondering. Just throwing it out there. Shenmue was cutting edge in its time and definitley a game every gamer should experience at least once if they havent.

Shenmue has been mentioned before (by me actually), but maybe we'll get to it sooner or later.  I'd love to replay that one.  I know Dreamcast seems retro by now, but for our purposes we consider it a modern console.

It really comes down to (1) how many members own a DC and (2) how many members out of those would be willing to play this title. It would be more justifiable if it were downloadable on a more modern system.

DC seems to be pretty well loved around these parts.  I mean, the Collectorcast dedicated a whole episode to it.  As for your second point, I think recent months have proved that's always a crapshoot regardless of how many people say they're willing to play a particular game.

I agree about it being downloadable.  I'm still holding out hope for an HD remaster of these games.  According to something I read a few years ago, Sega has been sitting on completed HD remasters but have just neglected to release them.  Not sure if it's true though.

Jurassic Park, the Genesis and/or SNES version.  The Genesis version was awesome, the first was better than the second, though.

Well... Obviously enough SNES versions exist: http://www.ebay.com/itm/191586916547?orig_cvip=true

Awesome. I like the FAQs at the bottom of the listing.

There is no question as to whether the DC is well-liked or not. We know there are a lot of fans on this site. The problem is that it is not a "Tier A" system (a system that virtually everyone owns like an NES, SNES, Genesis, PSX-PS3, etc.). Reducing the number of possible participants + the low participation rate we already have spells almost certain doom for such a playthrough. I am not trying to diminish playing a DC game, and think in theory that it would be great, but in practicality, interest may not be enough as to dedicate a month to it.

I always rage quit at those helicopter guys.

I always rage quit because #nodamnjumpbutton

I own a DC and Shenmue. Still wouldn't want to do a community play through for it.

I hear you banana. I was just throwing it out there. Its just a game i wanted to go back and play. Would be interesting to play with you guys.

Why not engineer mike whats un appealing about it to you? You also said you wouldnt play mass effect...just curious what exactly WOULD you like to play?

I've heard great things about the game, but have never played it myself. If it were on a more collected system or were available for download via a more modern system, I would love to play it trust me.

The whole Shenmue discussion is kind of a moot point anyway.  The modern playthroughs are mostly all decided for the rest of the year, and I don't anticipate the game being chosen anytime in the foreseeable future, even by me.  Like I said, still waiting for that HD remaster which may or may not ever happen, and I'd hate to have another Suikoden II situation where the digital release comes out right after the playthrough.

Not really sure I agree with swearing off DC titles (or Saturn for that matter, when the hell are we going to do something for that system?).  I understand the point about trying to increase the odds of participation, but at the same time, I also think our game selections should be diverse and all systems should have at least some representation around here, even if it is small.  If participation is low and the game flops, well, it happens.  Never stopped us from doing Wii playthroughs.

Of course, I would never want to swear anything off in terms of systems, but I'd like there to be at least some interest in playing a game besides one or two people chiming in on a title. The problem, as we have discussed as a playthrough group is that we have a lot of people who like to suggest titles, but when it comes down to it, a good majority of them don't play the games when they pop up (see Suikoden II playthrough....and there have been other noted incidents).  We LOVE, LOVE community suggestions, but in the end, we are the ones who HAVE to play each title; we can't duck out whenever we like due to "contractual obligations." Ha!

I totally agree with community interest being there, but given the volume of members here, one or two suggestions for a given title is all we usually get, so it's tough to discern when there is legitimate interest or if it's just a random shoutout.  I think the only real way to "guarantee" (I use that word very loosely) high participation is to do a community poll every month, but I doubt us hosts would want to live with those constraints for every playthrough.

Ys

Yep. And even the polls are not accurate in terms of who will play; people often vote to just vote for a preference.  I'll be shocked if we have close to the same number of participants for Nemo as we had votes. With that said, the playthroughs began with one idea and one which we follow, "Here's what I'm playing. Who wants to play it with me?"  I love suggestions and ALWAYS look over the list here before I pick games. However, this isn't to say that I may go my own way sometimes (with the blessing of my co-host of course) and that's just the balancing game we have to strike to keep community interest and keep us, the hosts, excited to play every month.  I do hope everyone is enjoying the playthroughs and podcast overall and certainly understand that not all games are everyone's cup of tea.  Thank you to those who participate in our video gaming "book club."

Mike, I grabbed a CIB Famicom Ys not long ago. May have to search for a R5 translation patch. ;)

Speaking of Community Playthroughs no one would participate in, I'd be down for a Famicom Ys playthrough.

Ha! Ha!

I was thinking of this the other day. How about Punch-Out!!? Either Mike Tyson or Mr. Dream, depending on what you have.

It may sound like a quick one, but what about a scoreboard where people could post their best times for each opponent?

Post a survey in another thread.  See how many peeps would like to participate?

I would play along on my TurboCD port.

Maybe add in Super Punchout as well.

Ys also available on the DS.

PSP version is better.

Plenty of options!!!

As for Dreamcast, if we were to do a playthrough game, my vote would be for Bangai-O

Did someone say Ys?

http://www.gog.com/promo/summer_foundations_of_ys_bundle_040615

Punch out would be cool. I'd be up foy ys too. I've never really heard much about that game seems like a lot of people on here have. What am I missing here? Whats ys like?

I think these guys sum it up pretty well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvvGtPWNRsA


Anyway, Ys is something we're looking into and we hope to make it happen somewhere down the road.  There are so many different versions and remakes of the game, so we're still trying to decide how to make it all work.

I feel Ys is often underestimated. I rank it as being just as important to the RPG genre as Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest. The series just never caught on to North American audiences as much as it did in Japan.

 Ys plays more like a Zelda game with a ridiculously easy "bump-attack" combat system, instead of timing with sword and shield. Health in the game regenerates automatically, instead of health power-ups. You still grind and level up your character, but there is no turn-based fights, and no party. It's just you (Adol) Vs. the baddies.

I really want to play Ys as well. I think the confusion the hosting guys are facing relates to the numerous versions of the game. Feel free PM us all with the details and we'll donor best to make it happen.

EDIT

I spoke with banana and it looks like Ys is coming in the near future and all platforms are accepted.

I may be wrong, as I haven't been following this too closely, but has an Original Xbox Game been done yet? If not, might I suggest one of the following:

Shenmue II
Ninja Gaiden Black
Far Cry Instincts
Crash Bandicoot: The Wrath of Cortex
Fatal Frame 2
Shadow The Hedgehog

You are correct in that we have not featured an XBox exclusive game yet, but we did do Xyanide last December during shmup month. We are playing Indigo Prophecy in September, which is available on XBox and PS2.  I'm glad you mentioned it, since we have been looking at some of the systems we've yet to play on to see what might be of interest to the community.

Just comments on a few of these choices:
Shenmue II - a little pricey for what we normally like play, plus I'd probably like to play the original as a playthrough first
Fatal Frame II - I know this is available on XBox and PS2, is this they kind of game we would need to play the original first as well?

Sorry, I wasn't aware Shenmue II was on the more expensive side. As for Fatal Frame 2, it doesn't require knowledge of the first game as I recall. Thanks for taking the games into consideration! :)

Fatal Frame wouldn't be a bad idea. Found out the newest version is going to be localized and available for the Wii U in Fall 2015 for US/UK/AUS, so it wouldn't be a bad time for it.

Yeah, I've been wanting to play Fatal Frame at some point. That's on the modern side though, so you gotta talk it up to those hooligans. ;)

Hey, community! I'm feeling the Playstation Vita for November. Any requests or suggestions for titles?

Astyanax

I've been wanting to suggest an off-the-beaten path NES game that I really enjoy to share it with the board.  However, a lot of those games are now very expensive (WTF, Rockin' Kats?)

However, Astyanax meets my criteria and can still be had for under $5.  I was slightly worried that the game would be too difficult/frustrating for new players, but Little Nemo has neatly allayed those fears.

Astyanax is a fantasy hack & slash action platformer.  It has a unique look with large sprites for the hero and the enemies (especially bosses).  The music is excellent.  The story, while a bit "anime" for some, I'm sure, is well told through plentiful cut scenes.

As I said, I was worried about the game being too frustrating, as it has endlessly spawning enemies designed only to screw with your jumps.  However, you have the tools to mitigate these problematic enemies, unlike in Little Nemo.

Astyanax will alienate PAL gamers a bit. It's pretty rare here. Us PAL A gamers have to import ours from Australia!

Man, that was the opposite of my intent.  Well, we can make it up by making it a dual month, Astyanax/Super Turrican.  Then both NTSC and PAL can have a frustrating, out of region game search.  ;)

More seriously, would importing the Famicom version, Lord of King, be a more affordable option for PAL gamers?  Senseiman has it available for $6 USD plus shipping.

Yeah, buy me a Vita.......... :P

I would enjoy an excuse to play Ninja Gaiden Black.

What's the game planned for October? I did not see it on the schedule yet, so just putting out a few ideas, I have.  I think it should be Horror Themed, which I believe is what usually happens.

 I think Single Banana mentioned the Castlevania series at one point to me, which is great. Which ones, should we play?

Other suggestions, I have are the Splatterhouse series? or a selection of Horror themed games? for example, Friday the 13th on the NES, Monster Party, Zombies Ate My Neighbors, etc.

I would love to be a part of the playthrough in October.  I love Horror, so its a perfect month for me to join in

Funny you mention it. Floyd and I have been knocking around ideas for the retro playthrough just recently and we have a nice little short list. We have played a Castlevania game ever October in the past. Will we play another or will we go off the rails this year????  NO SPOILERS right now, but I will say that it will be horror themed. ;)

The boys on the modern side have also been in contact with me about what they want to play and I think people are going to be very pleased.

We will probably be announcing the year's remaining games soon, so keep your eye on the front page. :D

That sounds great, an off the beaten path NES game.  Also, the Ninja Gaiden series on NES.

How about a Red October? The Hunt for Red October vs. Silent Service

That actually sounds interesting.  Has anyone ever played Silent Service?

Does anyone even own it? So rare.

Silent Service on NES does not look to be rare or expensive at all...

It's a site meme, based on a Craigslist ad advertising it to be rare and selling for $40.  :laugh:
I presume you haven't seen the special "gold-plated" Silent Service yet.

@Shadow: The meme sort of turns in on itself once you realize that Silent Service was developed/ported for NES by Rare.

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I thought it was by Ultra.............................. ULTRA RARE!!!!

Original Developer: MicroProse
NES Port: Rare
Publisher: Ultra
Distributor: Konami

...did I mention how silly it was that additional publishing arms had to be formed to work around the release limitations for publishers for Nintendo?

Made by Rare?  No way!  Has anyone actually played it?  Is it any good?

Due to it's extreme value, I am afraid to insert my copy into my NES for fear of damage.

Just putting a suggestion in. Apologies if it's been asked for or actually played.

Super Ghouls n Ghosts - SNES / Super Famicom

Cheers  ;D

But don't you own 5 copies?  Can't you spare one of them?

I have 2 suggestions that I've been thinking about for a while, both competition based...

Idea 1 - An NES black box month. 3 black box games and then a royal rumble week; Pinball, Kung Fu, Urban Champion, Balloon Fight, Clu-Clu Land, etc. Tons of games to choose from.

Idea 2 - NWC (nuff said)

I like these ideas. I think the first is a little more doable budget-wise. The NWC repro carts can be tough to obtain at times and I'm pretty sure they are fairly expensive ($75 and temporarily out of stock on USB).

Sorry, I didn't mean the actual cart. Just meant SMB, Rad Racer, and Tetris. But on second thought, maybe it's not a great idea for a weekly based competition. I think that competition was based on a short time limit and I'm not sure how that could translate to a week long thing.

Crystalis, Willow, Codename: Viper, Final Fight games, TMNT games

Crystallis and Willow are super solid picks!  I'd say that Codename: Viper is super similar to the Rolling Thunder series and I'm not sure it could sustain an entire month by itself. The Final Fight games (other than the first) are too expensive, but it might fit nicely into a December beat em up competition, so worth considering. "TMNT games" is a little too vague, tons of titles. Thanks for the suggestions!

Another one is Robin Hood for the NES.  Final Fight I was thinking the same, could cost a bit but could also be a December thing.  For TMNT I was thinking the original NES one and Turtles II, III, and IV as a December thing.  Code Name: Viper I was thinking could be mashed with something else.  It's is probably on the fence as to if it can sustain a full month.

This is a fantastic idea and I would like to second, third, fourth, and fifth it please!  It will give me a good excuse to seek out The Manhattan Project, since it has eluded me in the wild thus far ;D

Question: when did the playthroughs become just a single game, no division between retro and modern?  I wanted to participate in the January play through, though I didn't find the time, but February and March are both newer games I don't have, and am not going to rush out and buy, so I'm wondering why the change, and whether or not we're going to see some retro stuff later in the year, or even some 6th gen stuff that's easy to get, but perhaps more "under the radar".

We announced the change to one game last December on the front page and in our podcast. Two games were becoming a lot to juggle each month and we also wanted to improve the quality of our podcast, which I think has definitely improved with the four of us on together.

We are definitely still doing retro games and not to spoil to much, but you can expect one in March. ;) It always won't be an alternating schedule, and some months we may play multiple titles like we did with Mario.

Do you mean May?

No, I mean April. Ha ha!

You can likely expect something 16-bit during my next month hosting (June).

Aprils Fool's!

Thank goodness!

Thanks for the info - I don't know how I missed that on the front page.  It makes sense, and yes, a couple times I wanted to do both retro and modern, and ended up forsaking one for the other, so I get that it's too much to take on a lot.  Glad to hear a retro game is coming soon!

what about Wild Arms 1 or alter F ( the remake of 1 )

We can certainly put that on our list for consideration.

Omega Boost for PSX seems like a lot of fun, though i have very little experience with it. it's a sort of Mech game with rail shooter elements, and pretty cool live action cut scenes (or cheesy depending on how you look at it). Made by Polyphony Digital, the Gran Turismo developers.

Another one is Ivy the Kiwi? for Wii. this might be good in a competition month of some sort. really cute style, Lemmings inspired gameplay. Challenging but fun.

Ivy is also available on the DS and I understand it's a better version, since Wii controls can be a bit cumbersome.

hm i'll have to look into this, point and click seems to work quite well for the gameplay so i'm not sure how i feel about using a d-pad with it.

You actually use the stylus. :)

I realized this was probably the case after i signed out Lol. I could see that being better than the wiimote then, ya. so far the wiimote isn't that bad, but i could imagine getting very frustrating on more difficult levels.

How about some serious old school - Zork!

OMG!!  I am so in for that!

how about Final Fantasy Type 0 ? per http://howlongtobeat.com/game.php?id=3515 its around a 40 hour game.

40 hours is a bit much for us to handle in a month. Typically 25 hours is our max.

I have Type 0 and it's still in its plastic wrap. I'd love to play it, but I think Rich is right. Even if people played 2 hours a day for five days a week we'd be finishing right at the end of the month. Remember that How Long to Beat creates an average game length by user submitted times, so something that's 40 hours might take 50 hours to beat.

Still, great suggestion. I'm crazy for the Final Fantasy games and naturally I'd love to play one here, but the time commitment might be too much.

Just added some of the games we talked about wanting to play in our E3 podcast.  Might have missed a few.

I'd love to play Type 0 as well, but due to the length, I don't think it would work.  Not to mention, I believe the only NA release of this game was on current gen consoles, and 2 of your 4 playthrough hosts have yet to embrace the new generation.  ;)

I think if we did a Final Fantasy game, FF IV seems like the obvious choice.  It's shorter in length (hltb has it at roughly 20 hours), and it's easily one of the best in the series.

You forgot Nier.  I added it to the OP  ;)

Strider is misspelled in the OP.

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ok so Phantasy star 2 is up there, was 3 and 4 already done? shining in the darkness, Shining force 1... I want to do more sega genesis :)

Yes, we did Shining Force last year.  It was #1 on my end of year Top 5 list.

I thought it was one, I couldn't remember

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Duke and I are the only two with love for Zork?  Come on people!  Let's hear you!

*crickets*

You don't even need to buy Zork: http://textadventures.co.uk/games/view/5zyoqrsugeopel3ffhz_vq/zork

It's the playthrough that everyone can do!

Awesome! I say we do it! Never played a text adventure game before but I have some experience with visual novels which I'm guessing are pretty much the same thing.

so what about Puppeteer on the PS3 ?

Looks like a cool game. I own it already and would consider it in the future.

Let's do this then!!  Infocom had many awesome text adventures.  Ballyhoo, The Lurking Horror, all the Zorks, Wishbringer, The Enchanter Series.  The list goes on and on.

Looks interesting.

Any TellTale game would be great.

And right now you can get it for about 10$

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Not to change the subject but I'm thinking the 3DS needs a little love.

Whats the retro game for November?

We only do one game a month now. We started that back in January. ;)

Oh wow, well that explains it. Thanks!

What are some good 10 hour games on the 3ds? Most of the rpgs are long.

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If a Month (no matter how far ahead) is Available for 2017...may I recommend The Simpsons: Hit and Run? Yes, I know it's a Licensed Game, but I just played it earlier for the Gamecube, and it was surprisingly fun. It's also for the PS2 and Xbox.

Did we already do Catherine? If not we should in Feb to celebrate Valentine's.

It's been thrown around a few times but I usually shoot it down because I tried it and just suck at the puzzle game play so I can never get far.

If there was huge crowd support for it I would cease vetoing it, but I'd hate to sign up for a game I know I won't finish.

I thought of a crazy game that is only about 12 hours lone, Raw Danger on the PS2.  its a goofy game.

The sequel to Disaster Report. Same kind of game, but not a story sequel if I remember correctly. I'm a huge fan of the series so I'd be down for sure.

I wreck Catherine if you want some tips.

How about (insert title here) from TellTale? Wolf Among Us? Walking Dead? Anything?

This has been discussed several times among us. Looking into it for sure.

How about assassin's creed? It's only about 15 to 20 hours.

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How about Vanquish? It's 360 & PS3 and is from PlatinumGames. It's cheap ($10-$15).

That game kicks ass. It is pretty short for a playthrough, but maybe we could do that and MGS Rising for a Platinum two for one!

I love this idea and need an excuse to finish both of these games.

I agree that's a great idea! I would play through Rising again, and I have the soundtrack if needed for the episode.

how hard would it be to make a post of all past playthroughs, so that those games are not suggested again? or update the one thats there

We actually have all of our past games listed on a Google Doc, so I can probably do a quick cut and paste. I'll give it a go. Great suggestion.

Well, it wasn't a simple cut and paste, but it is done.........

Monster Boy... play it!