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Title: Ouya preorders now being accepted
Post by: Izret101 on February 05, 2013, 11:50:01 AM
For those of you rabbid android fans who want to support their new 99$ home console.

News:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-10797_3-57567630-235/ouya-preorders-start-today-retail-availability-set-for-june/

Preorder:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Video-Games/Ouya/pcmcat294500050003.c?id=pcmcat294500050003&searchresults=1&searchterm=Ouya


Title: Re: Ouya preorders now being accepted
Post by: wildbil52 on February 05, 2013, 12:54:44 PM
Also on Amazon

http://www.amazon.com/OUYA-Console-Coming-June-2013/dp/B0050SZD18/ref=sr_tr_sr_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1360086802&sr=8-1&keywords=ouya

Gamestop-edit-DON'T DO IT!!!
http://www.gamestop.com/browse?nav=16k-3-ouya,28zu0

Target-edit-ONLY DO IT IF YOU ALSO NEED BREAD OR SOMETHING!!
http://www.target.com/p/ouya-gaming-console/-/A-14471484

depending on which store you might have a gift card for ;)

I'm curious to see how this turns out.  My wife and I had considered an Apple TV but if this thing can do what apple TV does at the same price plus games, why not?


Title: Re: Ouya preorders now being accepted
Post by: Izret101 on February 05, 2013, 01:37:35 PM
Of your 186 posts are any of them useful?

"OUYA FACTS" from the dropbox linked on their website:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3erwxilu8tmudqq/nM865HvCnF/Docs/Basic%20Facts.pdf

Ouya Software including emulators... not sure how much trouble they will get in for that one...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ouya_software

List of OnLive games which will be compatible:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_OnLive_video_games

From Wiki:
"On July 19, 2012, Robert Bowling, former Creative Strategist at Infinity Ward, announced in a blog post[12] and through an update on the Ouya Kickstarter page[6] that his newly formed studio Robotoki would be the first developer to commit to creating a game exclusively for the Ouya. The game will be an episodic prequel to Robotoki's Human Element, a post-zombie-apocalyptic game scheduled for release in 2015.

On July 31, 2012, Square Enix announced that Final Fantasy III would be made available as a launch title for Ouya.[13] On August 7, 2012, the developers of XBMC announced a partnership with Ouya to bring XBMC to the Ouya.[14][15] On August 8, 2012, it was announced that Namco Bandai was in discussions to bring their games to the system."


Title: Re: Ouya preorders now being accepted
Post by: wildbil52 on February 05, 2013, 01:43:01 PM
Android and Angry Birds are not the same thing.  The Ouya is not about porting games that are available on Android tablets to a home console.  Android is an operating system.  That's it.

I won't fill this post with youtube links but there are plenty of videos demonstrating the performance capabilities and the user interface now that the developer consoles are reaching the developers.


Title: Re: Ouya preorders now being accepted
Post by: Izret101 on February 05, 2013, 01:44:42 PM
Oh and Bill get rid of those links.
Shopping at GS and Amazon should always be a last resort :-P
Target ehhh whatever. At least it isn't Walmart :-P


Title: Re: Ouya preorders now being accepted
Post by: wildbil52 on February 05, 2013, 01:47:31 PM
Oh and Bill get rid of those links.
Shopping at GS and Amazon should always be a last resort :-P
Target ehhh whatever. At least it isn't Walmart :-P

minor edit made...


Title: Re: Ouya preorders now being accepted
Post by: MercuryCrusader on February 05, 2013, 02:39:42 PM
OUYA sounds like a great idea on paper, but in execution? I guess we'll see. Of all the discussions I've seen about OUYA, the only "positive" thing people can say about it is that they can run emulators on it (if the best selling point about your platform is that piracy is easy, I can't wait to see how developers react to it).


Title: Re: Ouya preorders now being accepted
Post by: wildbil52 on February 05, 2013, 02:51:08 PM
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, of course.  I just don't see how running emulators is the only positive thing someone can see about this venture.

$99 console with an open operating system that developers already know how to program for-positive
$0 licensing cost to a developer to make a game and put it on Ouya-positive
revenue slit-70% for developer, 30% for Ouya-positive
every single game will be free to try-positive

I totally agree with MercuryCrusader that EVERYTHING will depend on the execution, both on Ouya's part and developers (as is the case with any new console).  But to be fair, pirating roms for retro consoles is no easier on the Ouya than it is on any computer with internet access.


Title: Re: Ouya preorders now being accepted
Post by: Shadow Kisuragi on February 05, 2013, 02:52:40 PM
The operating system is going to be the real selling point. If they can maintain the ability to promote/sell premium products efficiently and separate them from the chaff, I think it'll do well.


Title: Re: Ouya preorders now being accepted
Post by: Link41 on February 05, 2013, 03:06:30 PM
I have nil interest in supporting a download only system...


Title: Re: Ouya preorders now being accepted
Post by: blcklblskt on February 05, 2013, 03:07:56 PM
I'm interested in this mainly for the media streaming capabilities and emulator support.  But I don't think I'm going to buy it at $100.  I think it is awesome that Kickstarter has allowed for this to come to fruition, though.


Title: Re: Ouya preorders now being accepted
Post by: wildbil52 on February 05, 2013, 03:12:57 PM
Media streaming is towards the top of my list too.  I'm cancelling cable this week.


Title: Re: Ouya preorders now being accepted
Post by: Izret101 on February 05, 2013, 03:16:01 PM
I was hoping i would be able to cancel cable once we got Netflix. But after looking at what they and Hulu had to offer i am still paying for cable and a Netflix sub now on top of it...


Title: Re: Ouya preorders now being accepted
Post by: wildbil52 on February 05, 2013, 03:18:57 PM
I was hoping i would be able to cancel cable once we got Netflix. But after looking at what they and Hulu had to offer i am still paying for cable and a Netflix sub now on top of it...

I'm going to subscribe to NHL Gamecenter for my hockey and for everything else, we'll just get wherever we can.  We really don't watch that much tv anymore.


Title: Re: Ouya preorders now being accepted
Post by: MercuryCrusader on February 05, 2013, 05:43:31 PM
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, of course.  I just don't see how running emulators is the only positive thing someone can see about this venture.

$99 console with an open operating system that developers already know how to program for-positive
$0 licensing cost to a developer to make a game and put it on Ouya-positive
revenue slit-70% for developer, 30% for Ouya-positive
every single game will be free to try-positive

I totally agree with MercuryCrusader that EVERYTHING will depend on the execution, both on Ouya's part and developers (as is the case with any new console).  But to be fair, pirating roms for retro consoles is no easier on the Ouya than it is on any computer with internet access.

Maybe I exaggerated with emulation being the "only positive", but folks haven't really mentioned too much about the one thing I care about with a machine like this: the games. You listed all those great positives, and hopefully developers will at least attempt to make stuff for it, but it being an open platform has the added downside of potential neer-do-welling. If the machine is a pirater's dream, I don't see developers sticking around for too long.


Title: Re: Ouya preorders now being accepted
Post by: wildbil52 on February 05, 2013, 05:52:00 PM
Agree 100%


Title: Re: Ouya preorders now being accepted
Post by: Cobra on February 05, 2013, 10:17:08 PM
Well if nothing else, at least it's cheaper than the EvoČ (http://www.envizionsinc.com/evo2dx.html).


Title: Re: Ouya preorders now being accepted
Post by: techwizard on February 05, 2013, 10:38:28 PM
to stay on topic...after reading that list of basic facts that izret posted, i'm considering getting one. i didn't realise until now that the games are all free-to-play, at only $100 for the hardware that's a selling point for me...even if i don't like that the games are download only. with those price points though it's definitely worth at least trying.


Title: Re: Ouya preorders now being accepted
Post by: wildbil52 on February 05, 2013, 10:43:18 PM
to stay on topic...after reading that list of basic facts that izret posted, i'm considering getting one. i didn't realise until now that the games are all free-to-play, at only $100 for the hardware that's a selling point for me...even if i don't like that the games are download only. with those price points though it's definitely worth at least trying.

Yeah, I don't know if it's gonna be awesome or not but for a guy who doesn't have a Roku or apple tv, I'm at least curious about the possibilities.


Title: Re: Ouya preorders now being accepted
Post by: ixtaileddemonfox on February 05, 2013, 11:08:43 PM
It sounds cool but I don't see me paying $100 for it.


Title: Re: Ouya preorders now being accepted
Post by: Fleach on February 05, 2013, 11:25:44 PM
I want to see which developers jump on this platform. The Ouya has potential that's for sure.

I'm reserving my judgement until I know more.


Title: Re: Ouya preorders now being accepted
Post by: wildbil52 on February 05, 2013, 11:31:21 PM
While I'd love to see some big devs on this thing, I'm kind of curious what games will come from young devs who haven't been able to come up with the tens of thousands of dollars to make an XBLA or PSN game.  There will definitely be lots of bad games mixed in with the good but the cream always rises, right?  We might see a few sleeper hits.


Title: Re: Ouya preorders now being accepted
Post by: Duke.Togo on February 05, 2013, 11:31:53 PM
I can appreciate the open nature and what-not, but I don't see anything here for me. I'll be curious to see how it pans out.


Title: Re: Ouya preorders now being accepted
Post by: Fleach on February 05, 2013, 11:41:31 PM
How does the open nature and customizability come into play? I know next to nothing about this console and vaguely remember reading about it being "hack-able" when it was initially announced.


Title: Re: Ouya preorders now being accepted
Post by: techwizard on February 05, 2013, 11:42:33 PM
i think by hackable, they meant modable...which is fine by me. but i wouldn't be surprised to find any multiplayer games being stock full of cheaters. i'll likely get it just for the single player stuff.


Title: Re: Ouya preorders now being accepted
Post by: Izret101 on February 06, 2013, 12:08:15 AM
to stay on topic...after reading that list of basic facts that izret posted, i'm considering getting one. i didn't realise until now that the games are all free-to-play, at only $100 for the hardware that's a selling point for me...even if i don't like that the games are download only. with those price points though it's definitely worth at least trying.

Yeah, I don't know if it's gonna be awesome or not but for a guy who doesn't have a Roku or apple tv, I'm at least curious about the possibilities.

Free to play is not entirely true.
The games are all going to be on some sort of free trial basis from the sounds of it.
So if you really wanted to play something you can do so for free. Beat it during whatever arbitrary trial period they have and you saved some money(assuming the trial period is for the full game)
I wouldn't be surprised to see some stuff ending up being free or super cheap since that seems to be so common place with current android based games/software.

Of course since i don't have anything with android on it i only go based on what i hear. So if someone knows better please do correct me.


Title: Re: Ouya preorders now being accepted
Post by: Shadow Kisuragi on February 06, 2013, 12:18:39 AM
DIRECTOR NOTE:
KEEP IT CLEAN OR TAKE IT TO PMS.


Title: Re: Ouya preorders now being accepted
Post by: techwizard on February 06, 2013, 02:31:37 AM
to stay on topic...after reading that list of basic facts that izret posted, i'm considering getting one. i didn't realise until now that the games are all free-to-play, at only $100 for the hardware that's a selling point for me...even if i don't like that the games are download only. with those price points though it's definitely worth at least trying.

Yeah, I don't know if it's gonna be awesome or not but for a guy who doesn't have a Roku or apple tv, I'm at least curious about the possibilities.

Free to play is not entirely true.
The games are all going to be on some sort of free trial basis from the sounds of it.
So if you really wanted to play something you can do so for free. Beat it during whatever arbitrary trial period they have and you saved some money(assuming the trial period is for the full game)
I wouldn't be surprised to see some stuff ending up being free or super cheap since that seems to be so common place with current android based games/software.

Of course since i don't have anything with android on it i only go based on what i hear. So if someone knows better please do correct me.

oh ok i just read that basic info thing you posted and didn't notice it was outdated, well it still sounds interesting, and at $100 for a new console that's always a good deal


Title: Re: Ouya preorders now being accepted
Post by: Crabmaster2000 on February 06, 2013, 03:44:25 AM
I'm not the least bit interested in picking up an Ouya, but I am quite interested in seeing what it does to the console landscape. It could use a little shake up if you ask me.


Title: Re: Ouya preorders now being accepted
Post by: monkees19 on February 06, 2013, 04:00:25 AM
I have nil interest in supporting a download only system...

Amen to that. I'm bummed that the new Fire Emblem is so hard to find already but I'll be damned if I'm going to download it.


Title: Re: Ouya preorders now being accepted
Post by: Fleach on February 06, 2013, 08:34:16 AM
I'm not the least bit interested in picking up an Ouya, but I am quite interested in seeing what it does to the console landscape. It could use a little shake up if you ask me.

It certainly will shake up the gaming market. Casual and social games are now the leading formats so the Ouya will no doubt exploit that to some way.

I'm not interested in the console either, but I want to see the impact it creates on the video game scene.


Title: Re: Ouya preorders now being accepted
Post by: bombatomba on February 06, 2013, 10:23:42 AM
I think I'm more excited about the shakeup that these incoming consoles will cause rather than the consoles themselves.  My question is how will Android devices like the Ouya define themselves, keeping in mind that most consider Android gaming (and most so called "mobile games") as "five minute experience" games at best.  Will we see games that can grab the attention of traditional gamers, or will be nothing but clones from the Google App Store?


Title: Re: Ouya preorders now being accepted
Post by: Leynos on February 07, 2013, 07:14:28 PM
Not trying to stir the pot but they said today they plan to release a new system every year. How would people feel about that? I know Apple TV and Roku to this every year and I am being punished for keeping my 3 year old Roku as certain channels not allowed. Not that big a deal as not big on Vudu. I also know many people change cell phone every year. I have had the same one for 2 years. I can see it being ok for some users and others not so much. Not bashing just curious what people think about that.


Title: Re: Ouya preorders now being accepted
Post by: Shadow Kisuragi on February 07, 2013, 07:18:28 PM
Replacing the hardware would be fine with me if there was a legitimate reason to upgrade the hardware every year and they had an upgrade discount for current members once the new system was released. The box is essentially just a PC, and PC hardware needs to be ugpraded to keep current.


Title: Re: Ouya preorders now being accepted
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on February 07, 2013, 07:21:08 PM
OOOOOOYAAAAAAAA

Our language is sure nuff degrading back into grunts and such.


Title: Re: Ouya preorders now being accepted
Post by: wildbil52 on February 07, 2013, 07:26:00 PM
At $99, I don't really have a problem with a yearly hardware revision.  Almost all other tech has at least a yearly revision.  If the new features aren't enticing enough for you to drop another hundo, you don't have to.  OR, you could sell your old one to help fund the new one, OR you could just give it to a friend.

I wasn't aware that some older Roku devices won't work with some newer Roku channels, I'd be mad.  My parents have a Roku and the channels it has work well, I just with it had more, you know?


Title: Re: Ouya preorders now being accepted
Post by: Leynos on February 07, 2013, 07:47:13 PM
Personally think it would be better to give an update every 18 months.


Title: Re: Ouya preorders now being accepted
Post by: Am4zingGam3r on February 08, 2013, 03:16:59 PM
Might just preorder this. Did with the Pandora Console, and it turned out just fine


Title: Re: Ouya preorders now being accepted
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on February 08, 2013, 11:55:52 PM
At $99, I don't really have a problem with a yearly hardware revision.  Almost all other tech has at least a yearly revision.  If the new features aren't enticing enough for you to drop another hundo, you don't have to.  OR, you could sell your old one to help fund the new one, OR you could just give it to a friend.

I wasn't aware that some older Roku devices won't work with some newer Roku channels, I'd be mad.  My parents have a Roku and the channels it has work well, I just with it had more, you know?

You can add more. There's millions of the buggers, just gotta find em online.