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Title: NES Game Manuals with a star
Post by: Johnny Nintendo on December 17, 2012, 08:54:24 PM
Hey, maybe some of the variant guys around here can help me with this.  I just noticed that my Golf and Little Nemo the Dream Master manuals have a small star in the upper right hand corner.  I think Golf has NES-GF-USA  and then there is a star. Little Nemo is NES-LN-USA and then a star.  Does anyone have any idea of the significance of this?   This is the first time that I've ever noticed it and was just wondering why it is there.


Title: Re: NES Game Manuals with a star
Post by: Hungrymoose on December 18, 2012, 02:58:26 PM
Hey, maybe some of the variant guys around here can help me with this.  I just noticed that my Golf and Little Nemo the Dream Master manuals have a small star in the upper right hand corner.  I think Golf has NES-GF-USA  and then there is a star. Little Nemo is NES-LN-USA and then a star.  Does anyone have any idea of the significance of this?   This is the first time that I've ever noticed it and was just wondering why it is there.
I believe they are manual re-prints.  Have you compared the insides at all?  I'm betting something's different.  Maybe the seal of quality or something.


Title: Re: NES Game Manuals with a star
Post by: Johnny Nintendo on December 18, 2012, 07:10:19 PM
No, I haven't thought of that.  That sounds very likely though.  Thanks!


Title: Re: NES Game Manuals with a star
Post by: Shadow Kisuragi on December 18, 2012, 07:24:37 PM
Yay! Someone took note of the manual variants!
I know that the -1, -2, et al manual variants all have differences in them, whether it be legal information or actual changes. I haven't taken the time to examine the * manuals, since I don't own two manual variants.


Title: Re: NES Game Manuals with a star
Post by: Duke.Togo on December 18, 2012, 07:57:52 PM
Reminds me of a RC-Pro Am variant. One has an asterisk next to the title, and one doesn't.


Title: Re: NES Game Manuals with a star
Post by: Izret101 on December 18, 2012, 08:21:59 PM
I am almost positive i had at least one manual that was a -#* variant.
I want to say it was SMB3....

I had a couple others that were just * variants never looked into them as i had nothing to compare them with at the time.


Title: Re: NES Game Manuals with a star
Post by: Shadow Kisuragi on December 18, 2012, 10:33:15 PM
Reminds me of a RC-Pro Am variant. One has an asterisk next to the title, and one doesn't.

That's actually one of the most well-known examples.


Title: Re: NES Game Manuals with a star
Post by: Johnny Nintendo on December 19, 2012, 07:28:03 AM
I believe I have seen the Kung Fu box with an asterisk at the end of Fu.  I don't have any duplicate manuals to compare them to either.


Title: Re: NES Game Manuals with a star
Post by: Zing on December 31, 2012, 01:23:36 AM
The star signifies that the warning against using the game with a projection TV is present.


Title: Re: NES Game Manuals with a star
Post by: Shadow Kisuragi on January 03, 2013, 02:26:43 PM
The star signifies that the warning against using the game with a projection TV is present.

Zing, where did you find that information at? Do you know when that practice started?


Title: Re: NES Game Manuals with a star
Post by: Izret101 on January 03, 2013, 02:39:40 PM
I can't remember the game now but years ago i submit an extra media scan for a game that had a pamphlet in it with that warning.

If there is a way for you to only show results for extra media games it would help cut down the hunt assuming my scans are still where i put them and not lost or got moved to the wrong place.

EDIT
I tried searching based on my image submissions but apparently i have never submit an image to the NES in our DB.
I LOL and sigh at how much stuff i was never tracked for.


Title: Re: NES Game Manuals with a star
Post by: Shadow Kisuragi on January 03, 2013, 03:02:35 PM
List of games in our database with Manual Variations (*) for Extra Media Scans:
Wheel of Fortune: Family Edition
Super Off Road, Ivan "Ironman" Stewart's
Super Mario Bros./Duck Hunt
Jeopardy!
Infiltrator
Final Fantasy
Dr. Mario
Batman
Super Mario Bros. 3
Fast Break, Magic Johnson's
Paperboy [Round Seal]
R.C. Pro-AM (Cartridge)

Games with * Manuals that need to be "resorted" for Manual scans:
Championship Bowling
IronSword: Wizards & Warriors II
RoboCop
Goal!

EDIT: Izret, the old Extra Media scans are still in the index.txt file, not in the database. I need to get rid of that system and submit them properly, and we need to sort out the images here properly as well. However, I'm not seeing it in the old files, and I'm not seeing it in the new files either with any of the Manual Variation scans.

EDIT EDIT: Dragon Warrior doesn't have a manual variation...that's the Explorer's Handbook. I fixed that during the outage span - I'll have to revisit that.


Title: Re: NES Game Manuals with a star
Post by: Izret101 on January 03, 2013, 06:01:02 PM
Found my laser scope extramedia scans.
Eh maybe i'll do some dredging on the forums and see if i can turn up a thread from THE BEFORE TIME.


Title: Re: NES Game Manuals with a star
Post by: SirPsycho on January 03, 2013, 06:03:51 PM
All this talk has me curious if I have any of these.


Title: Re: NES Game Manuals with a star
Post by: Johnny Nintendo on January 03, 2013, 09:01:33 PM
I didn't realize I had some of these until recently.  I was going through each CIB NES game and making sure the cart, box, and manual go together.  For example, I have a Bionic Commando box with the round seal, but the cart is an oval seal.  I was checking to see if there was a way to match up the correct box with the correct manual, and I discovered the star.


Title: Re: NES Game Manuals with a star
Post by: Izret101 on January 03, 2013, 09:29:51 PM
^^^^^
And that is a perfect example of one huge problem i have with some of the variants being added.

Since no one is opening a sealed copy of many of these games there is no way to be 100% sure what might go with what.


Title: Re: NES Game Manuals with a star
Post by: Johnny Nintendo on January 03, 2013, 10:05:00 PM
Yep, although, I did find a link that someone on NintendoAge posted that contained a list of all the NES games and what was included(manuals, posters, inserts, etc.).  I am not sure if it listed the variants or not though.


Title: Re: NES Game Manuals with a star
Post by: Shadow Kisuragi on January 03, 2013, 10:33:02 PM
There are various community threads doing the same thing with 3DO and Genesis as well. The Nintendo one was pretty interesting, though.


Title: Re: NES Game Manuals with a star
Post by: Zing on January 04, 2013, 08:02:42 PM
^^^^^
And that is a perfect example of one huge problem i have with some of the variants being added.

Since no one is opening a sealed copy of many of these games there is no way to be 100% sure what might go with what.

Sure there is. The seal of quality in the manual always matches the seal on the cart. New part numbers are not issued for this variation, so if you are trying to acquire a particular variant, you have to have the seller take a look inside the cover.


Title: Re: NES Game Manuals with a star
Post by: Zing on January 04, 2013, 08:05:08 PM
The star signifies that the warning against using the game with a projection TV is present.

Zing, where did you find that information at? Do you know when that practice started?

I discovered this from my personal research as well as confirming reports from Nintendo-Age.

As for when the practice started, I could give you an estimate if I find the related issue of Nintendo Power. I've been re-reading all the issues and recently read an issue from 1991 that mentions this warning being added to all games. I'll check later.


Title: Re: NES Game Manuals with a star
Post by: Zing on January 04, 2013, 08:08:53 PM
Dragon Warrior doesn't have a manual variation...

Dragon Warrior has two manual variations. The only difference is the seal of quality and the rear projection warning. They both have the oval seal, but one has tm next to it, and the other has (r). Also, the latter one has the star. Another note is that the (r) version is from the revision 1.1 of the game ROM. This is an "easy" way to tell from the front of the cart if it is the fixed version of the game.


Title: Re: NES Game Manuals with a star
Post by: Hungrymoose on January 05, 2013, 02:09:22 PM
Yep, although, I did find a link that someone on NintendoAge posted that contained a list of all the NES games and what was included(manuals, posters, inserts, etc.).  I am not sure if it listed the variants or not though.
Would you mind posting that link here? :D


Title: Re: NES Game Manuals with a star
Post by: Izret101 on January 05, 2013, 02:18:26 PM
^^^^^
And that is a perfect example of one huge problem i have with some of the variants being added.

Since no one is opening a sealed copy of many of these games there is no way to be 100% sure what might go with what.

Sure there is. The seal of quality in the manual always matches the seal on the cart. New part numbers are not issued for this variation, so if you are trying to acquire a particular variant, you have to have the seller take a look inside the cover.

I was referencing this:
I was going through each CIB NES game and making sure the cart, box, and manual go together.  For example, I have a Bionic Commando box with the round seal, but the cart is an oval seal.


Title: Re: NES Game Manuals with a star
Post by: Johnny Nintendo on January 05, 2013, 08:07:42 PM
Here ya go Hungrymoose: http://www.gamefaqs.com/nes/916386-nes/faqs/49943

I was just using the Bionic Commando box/cart for an example.  That should be fairly easy to figure out.  I am happy as long as the seals match.